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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1260 on: September 11, 2025, 02:00:08 PM »
Not sure if anyone’s been keeping up with South Park this season, but they did a Charlie Kirk ep and it was basically Cartman getting mad that Charlie Kirk was stealing his shtick

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1261 on: September 11, 2025, 02:15:43 PM »
Not sure if anyone’s been keeping up with South Park this season, but they did a Charlie Kirk ep and it was basically Cartman getting mad that Charlie Kirk was stealing his shtick

They pulled the episode from streaming sites. Kinda dumb because Kirk enjoyed being saterized by them.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1262 on: September 11, 2025, 02:20:48 PM »
dylan and eric weren't bullied. eric was a psychopath fed up with humanity wanting to put on a horrible spectacle, basically performance art to him. dylan was suicidal but wasn't a man of action so he entered into a pact with someone that would force him into it. dylan was reluctant to hurt anyone until eric was right next to him doing it, directly influencing him.

also everything else you said is poorly examined and goofy too.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1263 on: September 11, 2025, 02:33:40 PM »
Not weighing in any further other than to say a hate preacher dying under any circumstances isn’t a sad event.

It’s the energy they invite into their lives by living as a hate monger.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1264 on: September 11, 2025, 02:55:01 PM »
Not weighing in any further other than to say a hate preacher dying under any circumstances isn’t a sad event.

It’s the energy they invite into their lives by living as a hate monger.

His final act was truly a patriotic one — commemorating the 9/11 attacks by dropping like the Twin Towers 🇺🇸

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1265 on: September 11, 2025, 03:26:45 PM »
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@gumsole

You’re misusing the word “unfortunately” here.

This is a guy that argued that gays should be stoned, are groomers, and that children should witness public executions.

Well, a public execution certainly was witnessed in Utah. Be careful what you wish for.

Hate perpetuates hate.
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Hey man I get it, this guy spewed a lot of things that people didn't agree with. He painted a rather large target on himself like many others on both sides have. The columbine shooters didn't paint a bad picture for themselves but still were bullied and teased relentlessly because they were "different" till they got fed up and returned with brutal violence.

At the end of the day its not about left or right its about right or wrong. If something someone does or says ESPECIALLY someone you've never even met in person gets your feathers riled up, you can simply choose to ignore them. I've blocked many people on this forum because of their viewpoints and boom problem solved. Killing someone who has physically no threat to you or your family does not deserve being targeted and killed. That's just absurd unhinged behavior.

Some of these comments here are crazy. People are actually hyped this dude got killed because they didn't like him. Well a year ago my dog chased my neighbors cat into a tree and my neighbor shot and killed my dog. I fucking can't stand him but just last week his wife died of cancer. Am I over on my property dancing and cheering with joy. Absolutely not, I sent my condolences and moved on. Again, its simple, if you don't like sushi then don't eat it but don't hate the chef that makes it.

Just out of curiosity, are you part of a minority group who have had increased hateful rhetoric or violence aimed at you by people who were encouraged by public figures like Kirk?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1266 on: September 11, 2025, 03:27:24 PM »
I don't condone violence and this will be abused in political ways I'm sure of it.

But on the subject of "debaters" ... these people run their mouths so fast that no one can fact check any of the claims and the aim is to "win" rather then understand each other. This stuff is cancer for the brain. It really is incredibly sad to see the opinions of the youth being influenced by people appearing competent, but spewing bullshit.

At least the past generations got served an analysis of that bull from the media which at least some of the time produces corroborating facts and/or different views. Kids are now stuck in their echo chambers for engagement dollars.

This shit is wack they don’t even speak to eachother like human beings

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1267 on: September 11, 2025, 05:08:31 PM »
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@gumsole

You’re misusing the word “unfortunately” here.

This is a guy that argued that gays should be stoned, are groomers, and that children should witness public executions.

Well, a public execution certainly was witnessed in Utah. Be careful what you wish for.

Hate perpetuates hate.
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Hey man I get it, this guy spewed a lot of things that people didn't agree with. He painted a rather large target on himself like many others on both sides have. The columbine shooters didn't paint a bad picture for themselves but still were bullied and teased relentlessly because they were "different" till they got fed up and returned with brutal violence.

At the end of the day its not about left or right its about right or wrong. If something someone does or says ESPECIALLY someone you've never even met in person gets your feathers riled up, you can simply choose to ignore them. I've blocked many people on this forum because of their viewpoints and boom problem solved. Killing someone who has physically no threat to you or your family does not deserve being targeted and killed. That's just absurd unhinged behavior.

Some of these comments here are crazy. People are actually hyped this dude got killed because they didn't like him. Well a year ago my dog chased my neighbors cat into a tree and my neighbor shot and killed my dog. I fucking can't stand him but just last week his wife died of cancer. Am I over on my property dancing and cheering with joy. Absolutely not, I sent my condolences and moved on. Again, its simple, if you don't like sushi then don't eat it but don't hate the chef that makes it.

its the people who don't ignore him and have positions of political power thats the problem....not a bunch of SLAP users...honestly havent heard anything about that POS is a while, apparently he was set to debate Hasan in 2 weeks...which i would have ignored since I dont like Hasan's political takes
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1268 on: September 11, 2025, 05:18:28 PM »
Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1269 on: September 11, 2025, 05:28:50 PM »
I for one am so glad he got mowed down. Inside job or not it’s great he finally shut the fuck up.

He built an empire on calling for violence against marginalized people, and violence answered. He championed the genocide in Gaza and had no qualms cheering on the massacre of thousands of innocent people, both domestically and across the globe.

Fuck this ghoul, fuck his dead homies, fuck anyone caping for him, and fuck everyone like him.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1270 on: September 11, 2025, 06:01:55 PM »


Crob’s been real quiet since the shooting…
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1271 on: September 11, 2025, 06:48:44 PM »
They transported Kirk’s body on Air Force 2. That’s your tax dollars at work right there.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1272 on: September 11, 2025, 06:52:53 PM »
They transported Kirk’s body on Air Force 2. That’s your tax dollars at work right there.

They’re spending a billion to change all DoD text to Dept of War even though they can’t legally change that name without a 60 senator approval, so what’s another little drop in the bucket

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1273 on: September 11, 2025, 06:59:38 PM »
Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.

I just read some speculation that the “trans ideology” they were referencing were the letters “TRN” stamped into the casing.  TRN refers to a brand of ammunition.  They’re either the dumbest people alive or there is a clear agenda to blame this on a trans person

If the “person of interest” is actually the guy, then it looks to me like another disgruntled right wing groyper dismayed that their former idol wasn’t extreme enough.

Real “years of lead” times coming.   Be careful what you post on social media, there are highly coordinated doxxing campaigns going on
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1274 on: September 11, 2025, 07:35:48 PM »
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They transported Kirk’s body on Air Force 2. That’s your tax dollars at work right there.
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They’re spending a billion to change all DoD text to Dept of War even though they can’t legally change that name without a 60 senator approval, so what’s another little drop in the bucket

And if Dems ever win again and they undo this insanity, the MAGATs will be quick to call it all a waste of taxpayer money.

Watch Trump allow his wife to sue the state of Utah and he’ll pay it off like he did Ashli Babbit.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1275 on: September 11, 2025, 07:55:09 PM »
Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.

People are already beginning the talks that Kirk’s death is the MAGA equivalent of the Reichstag Fire where the event was used to justify Hitler and the Nazi party to strip civil liberties, free speech, free press, etc., in order to surpress the Communist party’s supposed violent uprising.

Look at how GOP are already saying they’ll jail anyone talking bad about Kirk and his death on social media, even banning travelers visas to America if their social posts are negative to MAGA.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1276 on: September 11, 2025, 08:23:18 PM »
I’m so jealous of Brazil for having a working judiciary.
Major major shoutout to Brazil for showing the US how it's done.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1277 on: September 11, 2025, 09:02:23 PM »
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Anyone out there happen to see the article that WSJ did this morning spreading lies and misinformation directly from the FBI stating ‘there was ammo found with trans and anti fascist ideologies engraved on the inside’? Seems they scrubbed that off the internet and replaced it with an ‘amended’ one saying it was local law enforcement that said that and it may not be true.
Looks like you were right on your take yesterday @TastyBurrito with they’ll blame trans people and run with the lie.

As for the trained shooter, i doubt it. Anyone with any basic training would NEVER attempt a head shot. You’re taught to always go center mass. Greater chance of downing them. I do applaud them for going bolt action 30-06.

Where’s the National Guard or the Marines? They’re paraded around for made up shit but actually having someone assassinated?

 Nah, red state. We can’t risk that! Shit might get out of control.
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People are already beginning the talks that Kirk’s death is the MAGA equivalent of the Reichstag Fire where the event was used to justify Hitler and the Nazi party to strip civil liberties, free speech, free press, etc., in order to surpress the Communist party’s supposed violent uprising.

Look at how GOP are already saying they’ll jail anyone talking bad about Kirk and his death on social media, even banning travelers visas to America if their social posts are negative to MAGA.

Hardly surprising considering they were banning travelers over the Vance meme

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1278 on: September 11, 2025, 10:36:22 PM »
The worst part about this is his children are now fatherless; who’s gonna teach em to be bigots now?  :'(

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1279 on: September 11, 2025, 11:30:32 PM »
We’re all going to die one day. Hopefully in bed, asleep, and not on video for our families to relive at any point.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1280 on: September 12, 2025, 07:05:14 AM »
I don't think we should celebrate his death - but I don't think we should celebrate his life either.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1281 on: September 12, 2025, 08:17:36 AM »
Just to chime in on the marksmanship aspect here because I know a thing or two about it. There is no way he was shot with a 30-06, even though the round impacted in the neck, there is a very strong chance we would have seen Charlie Kirk’s head come smoove off. Not to mention we would have very clearly seen a whole bunch of his neck matter exiting out the back. Shit woulda been like scanners. But that’s not what happened. It looks like he got hit in the neck with a 5.56, the projectile tumbled and severed his spinal cord.

My theory, he’s not some Israeli commando; or CIA paramilitary sniper. There are a lot of glaring issues that a professionally instructed marksman would never make, all of which the shooter did.

He aimed for the T-Box(the eyes and nose) while trying to take a precision shot, took a high angle shot (my guess is around 30 degrees) but didn’t account for effected distance change, and had an incredibly sloppy exfil from a firing position that he was fucking silhouetted at.


I think the young boul had an AR-15 with a decent enough low power variable optic, and zeroed said optic at 100 yards. He trained with it for a while and got decent enough to make a shot at 100-200 yards, not hard at all. However, he didn’t adjust for the bullet drop of 5.56. When zeroed at 100 yards, 5.56 will drop about 6 inches by the time it impacts at 200 yards. There was no windage adjustment needed because it was a calm enough day and at that range there is no need for a wind hold unless the wind is like at 15mph plus crosswind. I think he was tensing his thumb as he pulled the trigger which is why the round impacted to the right.

I’ve included some pictures, one is the exit wound of a 30-06, one shows the ballistic trajectory of 5.56 at varying zeroing distance, the other is how you calculate for distance change when taking high angle shots.





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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1282 on: September 12, 2025, 09:19:12 AM »
I don't think we should celebrate his death - but I don't think we should celebrate his life either.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1283 on: September 12, 2025, 09:46:23 AM »
Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1284 on: September 12, 2025, 09:51:14 AM »
Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.

The thing is they already put the lie out there, and that’s enough for those people to believe. Facts don’t and have never mattered to them.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1285 on: September 12, 2025, 09:52:48 AM »
Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.

Idk man seems like a kid that would be perfect to get recruited by a 3 letter agency.

Only issue with that is he is still alive.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1286 on: September 12, 2025, 09:59:09 AM »
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Shooting suspect at a 22-year old white cis male who is a Mormon that grew up in a conservative household with plenty of access to guns growing up.

I’m legit curious to see how Trump and MAGA will blame this on open borders, BLM, and Trans people.
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Idk man seems like a kid that would be perfect to get recruited by a 3 letter agency.

Only issue with that is he is still alive.

I can see him being in the Men In Black (MIB).

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1287 on: September 12, 2025, 11:03:52 AM »
Nancy Mace Tweeted how Charlie Kirk would’ve wanted people to pray for the shooter.

I like to think her mentality wouldn’t be as compassionate if his skin had more melanin in it.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1288 on: September 12, 2025, 11:04:13 AM »
"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1289 on: September 12, 2025, 11:13:40 AM »
"Billionaire Bill Ackman has offered to donate $1 million to Charlie Kirk's family as an endowment and a separate $1 million to the FBI reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the shooter who assassinated Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University"

If your son did this would you turn him in?
Would you seek the reward?
What would you do with the money?


The way my mom put it: they were going to catch him, this was they way they thought he would be caught but stay alive