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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1560 on: October 03, 2025, 11:31:25 AM »
Crazy how you dudes are just gonna write long ass paragraphs about this dude for 4 years

It's like you feed off this shit

Feed off his name

Disgusting

We'd prefer not to.

Crazy how many MAGAs are happy to watch their country slip into authoritarianism without question. Keep walking in line.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1561 on: October 03, 2025, 11:35:09 AM »
I'm a maga troll now

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1562 on: October 03, 2025, 11:59:50 AM »
I'm a maga troll now

Ok  ::)

These new slurs are so lame and don't hit

We'll call you by the politically correct name: Trump Simp

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1563 on: October 03, 2025, 12:06:45 PM »
Simple projection...

I'll leave now while pages upon pages of TRUMPtm paragraphs happen naturally

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1564 on: October 03, 2025, 01:03:13 PM »
Simple projection...

I'll leave now while pages upon pages of TRUMPtm paragraphs happen naturally

Yes, they happen naturally because most of us have an attention span beyond a peanut. It sounds like your issue is with reading, and anything extending beyond your short comprehensive clip is inconceivable to you.

What are you even doing on forums if a paragraph is something that seems lofty or laborious in your world? Isn’t TikTok or IG enough for you?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1565 on: October 03, 2025, 02:28:40 PM »
I'm a maga troll now

Ok  ::)

These new slurs are so lame and don't hit

No one called you that. Sensitive.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1566 on: October 03, 2025, 02:37:31 PM »
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Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel
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Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1567 on: October 03, 2025, 02:41:47 PM »
some seasonal shedding of its skin

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1568 on: October 03, 2025, 02:44:10 PM »
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Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel
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Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’
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And that he’s giving a lecture on the antichrist because he’s trying to overpower google search Peter Thiel + Antichrist


If anyone’s curious: the guy that was supposed to represent Peter Thiel was the guy who buys them in the first season (the one who hates college) but the actor died in real life.   They tapped into some other Thiel-isms through other characters like the blood boy in later seasons

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1569 on: October 03, 2025, 06:43:11 PM »
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Lizard-in-human-skin suit thiel
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Fun fact: Peter Thiel is an anagram of ‘the reptile.’
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And that he’s giving a lecture on the antichrist because he’s trying to overpower google search Peter Thiel + Antichrist


If anyone’s curious: the guy that was supposed to represent Peter Thiel was the guy who buys them in the first season (the one who hates college) but the actor died in real life.   They tapped into some other Thiel-isms through other characters like the blood boy in later seasons

Err, we talking Silicon Valley?
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1570 on: October 03, 2025, 06:48:22 PM »
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And that he’s giving a lecture on the antichrist because he’s trying to overpower google search Peter Thiel + Antichrist


If anyone’s curious: the guy that was supposed to represent Peter Thiel was the guy who buys them in the first season (the one who hates college) but the actor died in real life.   They tapped into some other Thiel-isms through other characters like the blood boy in later seasons
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Err, we talking Silicon Valley?


Yessss key piece of info to omit there.   Thanks for catching that

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1571 on: October 04, 2025, 03:06:02 AM »


Never seen it. But I actually have it on good authority that one of the cast members was on some johan sticky levels of #meetoo nightlife debauchery at a place called 'tenets of trees' in LA. I'm probably very late to this.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1572 on: October 04, 2025, 12:42:41 PM »


Never seen it. But I actually have it on good authority that one of the cast members was on some johan sticky levels of #meetoo nightlife debauchery at a place called 'tenets of trees' in LA. I'm probably very late to this.

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Yeah Tennant of the Trees was a notorious “cover your drink” bar.   It was Probably TJ Miller as he’s been cancelled for being an asshole, creep and many other crimes

Thomas Middleditch was into th sex club scenes and forced his wife to join him which is amusing only because he made a joke in the series about that being specifically the behavior of an asshole years before it happened

Its a great show, but I fear it might look quaint these days as this was in a kinder softer day

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1573 on: October 06, 2025, 12:08:40 PM »
Being a Navy brat who has much love and respect for the fleet, I saw Trump’s speech for the Navy’s 250th and while expected, it was nothing short of pathetic.

As well as being a blatant Hatch Act violation (military should be non-partisan and free of politics). He made clear it was Trump rally and made the celebration about him. He bashed his opponents and spoke very little to none about the Navy’s history and accomplishments.

It’s really sad to see what the role of Commander-in-Chief has become. When Extortion 17 happened, Obama was there for the transfer of the fallen and stood at salute for 45 minutes. Even soldiers who politically hated him respected him for doing that. Trump? He blew off the transfer of those killed in training in Lithuania to go golfing. Like fuck.

And don’t get me started on him talking about how he warned Hegseth about Osama Bin Laden ONE YEAR before 9/11.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1574 on: October 06, 2025, 03:31:57 PM »
None of the lies or facts matter. What matters is the image. Trump is the first television president in the sense that is where he gets all his information and he only cares about how he looks on TV.

It is all about the spectacle. And, those around him know he is an idiot. It is hard to tell where his evilness ends and his idiocy begins because so many around him know they can play him for their own ideological or material gain.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1575 on: October 06, 2025, 05:13:46 PM »
Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1576 on: October 06, 2025, 05:37:07 PM »


Cruz was trying to lay the groundwork apparently for this happening.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1577 on: October 06, 2025, 09:49:58 PM »
You’re not wrong to worry about it. They’re gonna use every trick in the book to stay or keep their power. They are incredibly powerful, but we’re the ones that empower them. These people are so full of themselves they forget who makes their coffee, fixes their meals, dry cleans their clothes, and wipes their asses. We make their world turn, and they are so incompetent they are incapable of doing any of this on their own. Infact, it’s comical they refer to certain individuals as “useless eaters”, because that’s the very thing they themselves embody.

The way the world currently functions needs to be tore down wholesale. The economic structure needs to be shattered to disempower these individuals.

A small start is getting the Epstein files out there. These people are on it, and everyone needs to know what they did. It all starts with a spark.


I guess thinking about the tech guys and just America is pretty small potatoes in their ultimate plan.    Alien: Earth is literally about a future world where earth is divided up between Five tech companies and that’s sadly a pretty prescient look at where we’re headed.   The goal of these tech companies (remember when they tried to sneak in language about not regulating AI for a decade into the BBB) is own the world economy by owning all work by eliminating the “human tax” that corporations endure now

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1578 on: October 07, 2025, 01:27:39 AM »


Cruz was trying to lay the groundwork apparently for this happening.

I wonder if his supporters will buy whatever shit she says to get out of prison. I wonder if this is the one thing that is just too far for them to swallow. Also, I wonder what kind of payments are being offered to the women to keep quiet. And, what kind of "catch and kill" shit is going on in terms of silencing those who are trying to talk to the media.

Like, they are upset about Epstein... to tell them it wasn't a big deal and nothing happened, that is much harder than telling them about how the government works or which tax is good or bad.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/23/media/national-enquirer-catch-and-kill-trump-trial
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-indictment-investigation-timeline-manhattan-district-attorney/

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1579 on: October 07, 2025, 03:17:12 AM »
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Cruz was trying to lay the groundwork apparently for this happening.
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I wonder if his supporters will buy whatever shit she says to get out of prison. I wonder if this is the one thing that is just too far for them to swallow. Also, I wonder what kind of payments are being offered to the women to keep quiet. And, what kind of "catch and kill" shit is going on in terms of silencing those who are trying to talk to the media.

Like, they are upset about Epstein... to tell them it wasn't a big deal and nothing happened, that is much harder than telling them about how the government works or which tax is good or bad.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/23/media/national-enquirer-catch-and-kill-trump-trial
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-indictment-investigation-timeline-manhattan-district-attorney/

Let’s be real — Trump and FOX News will lay down the story that those kids were forcing themselves and their woke leftist liberal ideals on Ghislaine and his followers will go with that story. Then he’ll put her in charge of Child Protection Services.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1580 on: October 07, 2025, 06:53:32 AM »
What sickens me is capitalism left and right they need some form of fascism either corporate or passive to allow ebb and flow of consumerism. 

I'd like to think that Bernie or AOC or any other independent left leaning politicians would have our interests in mind for a eutopia, but that's not how capitalism/consumerism works.  They've been willingly accepting it left and right. I say put em all against a wall firing squad.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1581 on: October 07, 2025, 08:13:12 AM »
^^^Username checks out.

But, also, that's a kooky take. You're going to put the ppl you have closest to an ally to death?
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1582 on: October 07, 2025, 08:30:31 AM »
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?

People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1583 on: October 07, 2025, 10:42:54 AM »
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?
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People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.


Establish dems are trying to defend a system from Donald trump that most voters feel doesn’t work for them.   That was the main reason Kamala didn’t connect.   I don’t think a lot of voters wanted Trump as they wanted something/anything different and he was going to give that to him.

Progressive candidates like that amazing guy in Maine are who the DNC should get behind but they are so rigidly hierarchical and establishment that they never will embrace a grass-roots effort until it becomes Obama 08 level of undeniable

America shouldn’t be run like a business so fuck off with Cuban or any billionaire.   What business actually runs the way you’d want a government to emulate?   I believe in a strong, robust federal government that picks up the slack that the private sector drops because it isn’t beholden to profits or shareholders

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1584 on: October 07, 2025, 10:54:05 AM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1585 on: October 07, 2025, 12:42:23 PM »
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?
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People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.
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Establish dems are trying to defend a system from Donald trump that most voters feel doesn’t work for them.   That was the main reason Kamala didn’t connect.   I don’t think a lot of voters wanted Trump as they wanted something/anything different and he was going to give that to him.

Progressive candidates like that amazing guy in Maine are who the DNC should get behind but they are so rigidly hierarchical and establishment that they never will embrace a grass-roots effort until it becomes Obama 08 level of undeniable

America shouldn’t be run like a business so fuck off with Cuban or any billionaire.   What business actually runs the way you’d want a government to emulate?   I believe in a strong, robust federal government that picks up the slack that the private sector drops because it isn’t beholden to profits or shareholders

I think the Dems need to fix 5 things to get support:
1. Identify an issue and drive a solution. Jon Stewart is correct, stop strategizing and start pushing for the answer not what is possible.

1b. In terms of housing, I still think the Dems should identify a few small towns and say, "Hooray, you won the lotto we are going to make you a city. Pour in money to develop both housing and bring in businesses." We can't all live in LA or NYC, but who says there can't be a big city designed to be walkable in central California or Eureka can't be turned into a big walkable city in NorCal?

2. Make companies afraid to push back. I don't like how Trump has done it by interfering with individual companies, but we can't go back to letting them operate without repercussions IF the Dems get power again.

3. Marketing. Trump and his band of podcaster Fox news hosts are going all in on cruelty because the fight isn't small vs big gov, it is social state vs police state. There will be hate, but let's make dramatic 50 second clips of people getting to go to the doctor, kids eating breakfast, people enjoying the streets of Portland or SF or Chicago. Make 50 second clips of the problems of rural America next to either the solution or a conservative politician fighting against the obvious solution.

3b. And, I'll continue to get hate, but I've said Cuban would be a great counter to Trump's claims. He is everything Trump wishes he was. He makes Trump look small, weak, and stupid on the all the things the conservatives want to pretend he is strong on. There is no comparison between the two men. He undoes all of Trump's strengths. If Vance is running, I'd say someone else should be the face of the dem campaign. I just think Cuban is a great counter to Trump.

As for his policies, I doubt they'd be my first choice. I just want him to be a figurehead for the campaign against Trump. An image for the administration who does the real work to stand behind. Policy debates don't work. And both parties are equally uninformed. 42% of Dems and 42% of Republicans can't identify a single right guaranteed by the First Amendment.

3c. Co-ordinated messaging. The right picks a topic and all the people from the AM hosts to podcaster to FOX zero in on it. Do the same thing.

4. Just do shit and wait for the Supreme Court to say no. It might be illegal, lol obviously this doesn't matter.

5. Project 2029 needs to be developed. Set the goals and outline the means to get there. Musk being gone is good because it stops the direct and indiscriminate carnage, but the guy who wrote Project 2025 is charge of cutting the gov now. He has an outlined planned of how he is going to move America backwards and make it worse for all of us.

6. Give fair trials for every single one of Trump's admin who engaged in illegal behavior and broke the law. Trump might be immune, but people who are not swearing an oath to the Constitution but to a leader, are doing it wrong. They need to be removed and if they broke the law given the opportunity to defend themselves in court.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1586 on: October 07, 2025, 06:55:21 PM »
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Cuban is far from my dream, as I'd much prefer an AOC or Bernie or Warren, but if a Mark Cuban being in charge would save us from this administration and its harm, well it is a compromise I'm willing to accept. At present, I just want anyone who isn't a monster to obtain power and stop what is happening. I feel Cuban would be a good bet to actually win an election.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths
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Do you think progressives would support moderate candidates if it meant Democrats could win meaningful national elections?
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People want meaningful, tangible, life affecting change and moderate democrats aren’t going to get us there. They’re going to say what they always say “well, not right now.”

Ezra Klein (not that I put any stock into him) says Dems shouldn’t run pro-abortion candidates right now. BUT. Pro-abortion candidates are polling well and winning and over half the country wants abortion legalized. You can’t run a “we’re not them” campaign and you shouldn’t run a “we’re them adjacent” campaign either. You should run on what the people want and make it happen.

Progressive candidates are winning around the country.. would you consider Cuomo a moderate? Cuz Mamdani is wooping his ass. Without moderate endorsement too.

I’d take Governor Pritzkern for prez over Cuban or Mayor Pete or Newsome; the latter two of which are gunning for the presidency obviously. Cuban is just another billionaire who’s gonna side with billionaires.
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Establish dems are trying to defend a system from Donald trump that most voters feel doesn’t work for them.   That was the main reason Kamala didn’t connect.   I don’t think a lot of voters wanted Trump as they wanted something/anything different and he was going to give that to him.

Progressive candidates like that amazing guy in Maine are who the DNC should get behind but they are so rigidly hierarchical and establishment that they never will embrace a grass-roots effort until it becomes Obama 08 level of undeniable

America shouldn’t be run like a business so fuck off with Cuban or any billionaire.   What business actually runs the way you’d want a government to emulate?   I believe in a strong, robust federal government that picks up the slack that the private sector drops because it isn’t beholden to profits or shareholders
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I think the Dems need to fix 5 things to get support:
1. Identify an issue and drive a solution. Jon Stewart is correct, stop strategizing and start pushing for the answer not what is possible.

1b. In terms of housing, I still think the Dems should identify a few small towns and say, "Hooray, you won the lotto we are going to make you a city. Pour in money to develop both housing and bring in businesses." We can't all live in LA or NYC, but who says there can't be a big city designed to be walkable in central California or Eureka can't be turned into a big walkable city in NorCal?

2. Make companies afraid to push back. I don't like how Trump has done it by interfering with individual companies, but we can't go back to letting them operate without repercussions IF the Dems get power again.

3. Marketing. Trump and his band of podcaster Fox news hosts are going all in on cruelty because the fight isn't small vs big gov, it is social state vs police state. There will be hate, but let's make dramatic 50 second clips of people getting to go to the doctor, kids eating breakfast, people enjoying the streets of Portland or SF or Chicago. Make 50 second clips of the problems of rural America next to either the solution or a conservative politician fighting against the obvious solution.

3b. And, I'll continue to get hate, but I've said Cuban would be a great counter to Trump's claims. He is everything Trump wishes he was. He makes Trump look small, weak, and stupid on the all the things the conservatives want to pretend he is strong on. There is no comparison between the two men. He undoes all of Trump's strengths. If Vance is running, I'd say someone else should be the face of the dem campaign. I just think Cuban is a great counter to Trump.

As for his policies, I doubt they'd be my first choice. I just want him to be a figurehead for the campaign against Trump. An image for the administration who does the real work to stand behind. Policy debates don't work. And both parties are equally uninformed. 42% of Dems and 42% of Republicans can't identify a single right guaranteed by the First Amendment.

3c. Co-ordinated messaging. The right picks a topic and all the people from the AM hosts to podcaster to FOX zero in on it. Do the same thing.

4. Just do shit and wait for the Supreme Court to say no. It might be illegal, lol obviously this doesn't matter.

5. Project 2029 needs to be developed. Set the goals and outline the means to get there. Musk being gone is good because it stops the direct and indiscriminate carnage, but the guy who wrote Project 2025 is charge of cutting the gov now. He has an outlined planned of how he is going to move America backwards and make it worse for all of us.

6. Give fair trials for every single one of Trump's admin who engaged in illegal behavior and broke the law. Trump might be immune, but people who are not swearing an oath to the Constitution but to a leader, are doing it wrong. They need to be removed and if they broke the law given the opportunity to defend themselves in court.

A pleasant surprise to see you guys engage earnestly on this question and not just assume I was trolling because I wrote something other than frantic alarmism. As far as progressives winning elections- yes Mamdani is succeeding on a progressive platform but he is in very very progressive NYC and it would be difficult to reproduce that success in swing states. America's persuadable middle (the voters we need to actually win back the presidency and Congress) have shown that they do not have much of an appetite for those kind of progressive candidates. That's why we get candidates like Josh Shapiro, Mark Kelly, or Raphael Warnock in those states. Also, the reason most persuadable voters skew away from progressives these days isn't issue-based, its cultural. It's how aggressive, alienating, and obnoxious we can be in standing against what we see as the rising tide of fascism. Non-progressives do not view the current moment as being quite so dire.

As far as Cuban- the Democrats have to stop aiming for the Big Hollywood vibe and put on some jeans. Cuban is precisely what will continue to alienate persuadable voters who want to see a candidate be less stilted and formal. Trump is able to come across as populist despite his wealth because of his charisma, a category in which, for persuadable voters, he wipes the floor with Cuban.

As for your points Lurper:
1- this requires progressives to stand down and support moderates, and stop pushing what is "possible"
2- twisting yourself into a bit of a pretzel here
3- the needle-mover in politics has shifted from issues to personalities. who is saying something matters more than the thing theyre saying
3b- Cuban went out on the campaign trail for Kamala and wasn't able to manifest any of this. Again, he is a billionaire and Democrats need to shift away from glitz and glamour and come across as regular folks.
4- careful with the nihilism here dude
5- why in the world would you use the "Project 20__" branding for a Democratic response to Project 2025?
6- as has been shown countless times, it doesn't matter which cronies you lock up. the train keeps moving.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1587 on: October 08, 2025, 07:05:17 AM »
^^^Username checks out.

But, also, that's a kooky take. You're going to put the ppl you have closest to an ally to death?
Not necessarily, I do think there needs to be a wholesale dismantling of this "American dream"  that was stamped in to Ellis Island. Clearly it's meant for posturing.

For how long this idea of pulling ourselves by the bootstraps and make the day yours and damned if anyone else needs a hand especially farmers or factory workers in unions?! 

What makes me want to vomit is there's 2 sides and I'm not saying I don't vote blue as I've done it many time's before. It just seems like everyone is complicit in some capacity either well it's this or that mentality. 

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1588 on: October 08, 2025, 07:37:06 PM »
Yes. It's AI. but worth the listen. IMO.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1589 on: October 09, 2025, 05:15:24 AM »
Elon Musk telling me to watch Charlie Kirk… you must understand my hesitation.
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