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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1830 on: January 10, 2026, 03:53:10 PM »
Best breakdown I’ve seen yet. The agent pulls his gun before the driver lurches forward. Around 8 min mark. This guy must have snapped because he made a decision to kill her right there.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1831 on: January 11, 2026, 02:55:17 AM »
He called her a "fucking bitch" after he unloaded three shots into her face.  These fucking people are cold blooded sociopaths.  How inhumane do you have to be to do that to another human being and callously walk away calling her a "fucking bitch"?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1832 on: January 11, 2026, 04:57:08 AM »
Jonathan Ross' testimony will be crucial.
it's biased but it's the last bit of evidence I'm interested in.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1833 on: January 11, 2026, 05:22:27 AM »
100 % proof of premeditation when he switches the gun to his right hand.  Any right winger that denies this is doing so because they want impunity to kill their enemies. 

This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American public on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1834 on: January 11, 2026, 07:53:12 AM »
This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American publicy on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it

They made this clear when they deemed ANTIFA a domestic terrorism organization without being able to prove that it is in fact an organization.

It’s a message that anyone they don’t like will be callously and without base, be labeled ANTIFA, and therefore, a terrorist.

Making political opposition a literal enemy of the state.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1835 on: January 11, 2026, 10:29:00 AM »
100 % proof of premeditation when he switches the gun to his right hand.  Any right winger that denies this is doing so because they want impunity to kill their enemies. 

This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American public on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it
Another thing I haven't really seen mentioned is how he tracks her when firing shots 2 and 3. The first one could have been explained away as reflexive but he continues to draw down on her as she turns. That's intent to kill and his defense is gonna have an impossible time explaining that during the trial.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1836 on: January 11, 2026, 10:33:24 AM »
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100 % proof of premeditation when he switches the gun to his right hand.  Any right winger that denies this is doing so because they want impunity to kill their enemies. 

This event, and the administration’s reaction to it, is meant to put the American public on notice: if you step out of line, we will kill you, and we will label you as a terrorist to justify it
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Another thing I haven't really seen mentioned is how he tracks her when firing shots 2 and 3. The first one could have been explained away as reflexive but he continues to draw down on her as she turns. That's intent to kill and his defense is gonna have an impossible time explaining that during the trial.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1837 on: January 11, 2026, 05:27:43 PM »
I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1838 on: January 11, 2026, 07:13:50 PM »
I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1839 on: January 11, 2026, 11:35:29 PM »
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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You sound like a madman


This is not that far fetched. ICE gives Trump direct executive influence in states where political opponents control the police. It is also not without precedents. Venezuela is partially controlled by paramilitary groups which function outside of the  usual democratic controls.
I think it is certainly a strategic move to strengthen the executive and to intimidate immigrants and political opponents.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1840 on: January 12, 2026, 03:16:30 AM »
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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You sound like a madman

A "madman"?   Nah, He sounds pretty spot on to me.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1841 on: January 12, 2026, 07:25:54 AM »
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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You sound like a madman
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A "madman"?   Nah, He sounds pretty spot on to me.

When he told the Proud Boys to “Stand Back and Stand By” this is what he meant. He deputized them. Making his militia followers into his own personal force to use on the people. When Bondi, Noem, and Leavitt told ICE they have immunity and authority, they had no hesitation to act like it. It’s why they’re busting windows, pulling people out of cars, and going door-to-door.

It’s also why they’re targeting places like schools, places of worship, hospitals, etc. It’s because they are unhinged.

Military ROE forbades raiding of those same locations, but Trump is openly allowing ICE to do that to his own citizens.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1842 on: January 12, 2026, 10:34:04 AM »
I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse

I dunno if this is even tin foil hat territory, but I'm pretty convinced they're pushing the boundaries further and further in attempt to provoke us to physically attack ICE agents en masse, clearing the path for a declaration of martial law that will never end, including suspension of elections.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1843 on: January 12, 2026, 11:33:58 PM »
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I feel like the ICE officers have a directive to start killing people.  The point of ICE is not really immigration, the intention has always been to turn this against citizens who the deem a threat.  Seems like the mask is almost fully off.  DHS is tweeting blatant fascist/nazi slogans, “believe your leader, not your own eyes” gaslighting as policy.   The majority of the country is in complete denial. 

At the root of this are Christian cultists (and Israel) really thinking they are going to bring about the apocalypse
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I dunno if this is even tin foil hat territory, but I'm pretty convinced they're pushing the boundaries further and further in attempt to provoke us to physically attack ICE agents en masse, clearing the path for a declaration of martial law that will never end, including suspension of elections.
This is not tinfoil hat stuff. This has been the general sentiment in the resistance since inauguration. We knew they were going to be deputized and armed and that open conflict wasn't gonna work like last time. This is why it's wine moms and the elderly and disabled who show up every day, You can't fight fascism with proportionate retaliation. You'll just be killed and lied on.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1844 on: January 12, 2026, 11:56:15 PM »
Only moronic in the sense that when Michelle Obama tried to introduce the same plan in 2012 (after moving away from the old food pyramid to the new plate program) the GOP cried out that it was government overreach and her plan to make kids healthy was creating a “nanny state.”

Because apparently, health advice is only worth taking from someone who did heroin for a dozen years, willingly ate road kill and had literal brain worms.

There is a famous study where a bunch of people pretend to hear voices in order to get admitted to an asylum. Once they are admitted, they act normal and no longer complain of hearing voices. The doctors, nurses, and orderlies interpret everything they do as evidence of their severe mental health issues. No matter what they do, it is evidence of being insane:wanting privacy while using the toilet --> insane; taking notes --> insane; being close with one's mom as young child and then with the dad as an older adolescent --> insane.

This is the world we live in where even if Obama or someone else does something normal or good, it will be interpreted as bad by those who predetermined biases about them. This is even more true with FOX and AM radio constantly making money off of trying to stoke outrage. Something that someone might see as neutral, becomes rage bait, because rage bait drives the political agenda and engagement. And, things that would throw the right-wing into hyper drive are downplayed.

We aren't perfect and do similar things in reverse. We've been a little too reactionary at attempt to dismantel regulations. We should have been promoting smart regulations not necessarily the status quo.

And while I have my doubts on the sincerity and it is hard to look past the Trump admin/republican support for pay-day-lenders, the 10% max interest on credit cards would be a win for most people. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But let's not forget, Epstein and the 60+ international groups meant to protect the world: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2026/01/08/nx-s1-5671117/trump-withdrawal-united-nations-health

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1845 on: January 13, 2026, 03:02:24 AM »
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Only moronic in the sense that when Michelle Obama tried to introduce the same plan in 2012 (after moving away from the old food pyramid to the new plate program) the GOP cried out that it was government overreach and her plan to make kids healthy was creating a “nanny state.”

Because apparently, health advice is only worth taking from someone who did heroin for a dozen years, willingly ate road kill and had literal brain worms.
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There is a famous study where a bunch of people pretend to hear voices in order to get admitted to an asylum. Once they are admitted, they act normal and no longer complain of hearing voices. The doctors, nurses, and orderlies interpret everything they do as evidence of their severe mental health issues. No matter what they do, it is evidence of being insane:wanting privacy while using the toilet --> insane; taking notes --> insane; being close with one's mom as young child and then with the dad as an older adolescent --> insane.

This is the world we live in where even if Obama or someone else does something normal or good, it will be interpreted as bad by those who predetermined biases about them. This is even more true with FOX and AM radio constantly making money off of trying to stoke outrage. Something that someone might see as neutral, becomes rage bait, because rage bait drives the political agenda and engagement. And, things that would throw the right-wing into hyper drive are downplayed.

We aren't perfect and do similar things in reverse. We've been a little too reactionary at attempt to dismantel regulations. We should have been promoting smart regulations not necessarily the status quo.

And while I have my doubts on the sincerity and it is hard to look past the Trump admin/republican support for pay-day-lenders, the 10% max interest on credit cards would be a win for most people. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But let's not forget, Epstein and the 60+ international groups meant to protect the world: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2026/01/08/nx-s1-5671117/trump-withdrawal-united-nations-health

10 percent interest rate cap is throwing crumbs to the serfs.  No thanks, I'm more interested in French Revolution style reform where heads roll. 

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1846 on: January 13, 2026, 06:36:05 AM »
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Only moronic in the sense that when Michelle Obama tried to introduce the same plan in 2012 (after moving away from the old food pyramid to the new plate program) the GOP cried out that it was government overreach and her plan to make kids healthy was creating a “nanny state.”

Because apparently, health advice is only worth taking from someone who did heroin for a dozen years, willingly ate road kill and had literal brain worms.
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There is a famous study where a bunch of people pretend to hear voices in order to get admitted to an asylum. Once they are admitted, they act normal and no longer complain of hearing voices. The doctors, nurses, and orderlies interpret everything they do as evidence of their severe mental health issues. No matter what they do, it is evidence of being insane:wanting privacy while using the toilet --> insane; taking notes --> insane; being close with one's mom as young child and then with the dad as an older adolescent --> insane.

This is the world we live in where even if Obama or someone else does something normal or good, it will be interpreted as bad by those who predetermined biases about them. This is even more true with FOX and AM radio constantly making money off of trying to stoke outrage. Something that someone might see as neutral, becomes rage bait, because rage bait drives the political agenda and engagement. And, things that would throw the right-wing into hyper drive are downplayed.

We aren't perfect and do similar things in reverse. We've been a little too reactionary at attempt to dismantel regulations. We should have been promoting smart regulations not necessarily the status quo.

And while I have my doubts on the sincerity and it is hard to look past the Trump admin/republican support for pay-day-lenders, the 10% max interest on credit cards would be a win for most people. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But let's not forget, Epstein and the 60+ international groups meant to protect the world: https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2026/01/08/nx-s1-5671117/trump-withdrawal-united-nations-health
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10 percent interest rate cap is throwing crumbs to the serfs.  No thanks, I'm more interested in French Revolution style reform where heads roll.

If people have to rely on credit cards for survival, 10% rate caps aren't going to make a difference if they can't pay them down in the first place, it's all optical bullshit like the "no taxes on tips and overtime" hoopla that was a pure distraction in order to make massive corporate tax cutes...

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1847 on: January 13, 2026, 06:56:33 AM »
10% cap isn’t going to happen. People like Jamie Dimon and Bill Ackman will pay him 5 million each not to.

If anything, they’ll set a cap around 40% and have FOX and Newsmax spin it as protecting consumers.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1848 on: January 13, 2026, 07:12:48 AM »
10% cap isn’t going to happen. People like Jamie Dimon and Bill Ackman will pay him 5 million each not to.

If anything, they’ll set a cap around 40% and have FOX and Newsmax spin it as protecting consumers.

See that's the thing, special interest will always prevail under this system, especially under a regime so flagrantly corrupt...
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1849 on: January 13, 2026, 09:10:43 AM »
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10% cap isn’t going to happen. People like Jamie Dimon and Bill Ackman will pay him 5 million each not to.

If anything, they’ll set a cap around 40% and have FOX and Newsmax spin it as protecting consumers.
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See that's the thing, special interest will always prevail under this system, especially under a regime so flagrantly corrupt...

The sad thing is, all Trump has to do is just put it on Truth Social and MAGA will be like, "See? It's real. Why would he name his platform 'Truth Social' if he wasn't telling the Truth?"

So yea, I agree. He can say 40% interest rates are necessary to fight communism/socialism/marxism and MAGA will go running for a 38% interest with a high spend limit.

And if by chance that 10% bill goes through, he'll quickly take credit for it, while completely refusing to acknoledge that AOC introduced the bill with Bernie's backing.

Much like how he's taking for the Infrastructure Bill in deep red areas.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1850 on: January 13, 2026, 11:14:22 AM »
I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1851 on: January 13, 2026, 12:43:13 PM »
I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.



I've said it again and again, it's not the "liberal media" controlling the narrative. It's the special interest media.

Look who is buying media up — Bezos bought WaPo, CBS was bought and put Bari Weiss in charge, Pat Soon for LA Times, Rupert Murdoch buying the WallStreet Journal, and Musk with Twitter.

Narratives are moving because Trump says to move them. And when they do, they buy favor and legislation as well.

Remember when Biden was in office? NY Times, Wall Street, all of them were constantly releasing OpEds on why Biden and Kamala were a failed state and how they need to resign. Once Trump took office, all that disappeared.

It's sucks to find reliable news that will hit hard on the stories that matter.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1852 on: January 13, 2026, 06:20:49 PM »
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I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.


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I've said it again and again, it's not the "liberal media" controlling the narrative. It's the special interest media.

Look who is buying media up — Bezos bought WaPo, CBS was bought and put Bari Weiss in charge, Pat Soon for LA Times, Rupert Murdoch buying the WallStreet Journal, and Musk with Twitter.

Narratives are moving because Trump says to move them. And when they do, they buy favor and legislation as well.

Remember when Biden was in office? NY Times, Wall Street, all of them were constantly releasing OpEds on why Biden and Kamala were a failed state and how they need to resign. Once Trump took office, all that disappeared.

It's sucks to find reliable news that will hit hard on the stories that matter.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1853 on: January 13, 2026, 09:29:10 PM »
over a decade ago facebook did a study that people who use the internet should probably be more aware of. if they ever did more studies on this psychological contagion stuff, they didn't publish as far as i know. but in theory you could use feed algorithms to manipulate peoples moods while focusing their attention toward certain topics and perspectives, and i think that's relevant. especially in the context of consolidated private ownership of the public forum and bad-faith uses of ai in social media

the emotional contagion study is on penis and v short

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1320040111
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1854 on: January 14, 2026, 07:42:28 AM »
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I personally find it sick that the media has moved on to Jerome Powell. Messing with interest rates will certainly wake our Congress people and senators up but we should still be having a conversation as a country about the woman in MN being shot and killed because she was annoying ice agents. With all the atrocities with the Trump administration this one seems to be the most emblematic of their attitude towards the people of the country. I’m glad some independent media members are staying on the topic because if you cannot convince the vast majority in the country that faceless, nameless government agents can decide to terminate life in the streets then what do any of the other topics matter.


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I've said it again and again, it's not the "liberal media" controlling the narrative. It's the special interest media.

Look who is buying media up — Bezos bought WaPo, CBS was bought and put Bari Weiss in charge, Pat Soon for LA Times, Rupert Murdoch buying the WallStreet Journal, and Musk with Twitter.

Narratives are moving because Trump says to move them. And when they do, they buy favor and legislation as well.

Remember when Biden was in office? NY Times, Wall Street, all of them were constantly releasing OpEds on why Biden and Kamala were a failed state and how they need to resign. Once Trump took office, all that disappeared.

It's sucks to find reliable news that will hit hard on the stories that matter.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1855 on: January 14, 2026, 10:12:34 PM »
Feel good story of the year…


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1856 on: January 14, 2026, 10:17:19 PM »
Feel good story of the year…



That dude said “Trump is a blue collar guy…”

What a stupid ass fucking take.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1857 on: January 15, 2026, 08:27:24 AM »
I like to lurk on / occasionally post on a running forum I've been part of for 10+ years because I ran for sport in school. Distance running is big in rural America (though I wasn't in rural America, I would just read the forums).

I was disgusted by the ICE takes on those forums. It's niche enough where I don't think it's bots, its just the opinion of HS and college cross country coaches in Nebraska. Id sayd 50% of takes were pro-ICE / defending them, another 30% were "centrists" who would talk about whether or not its justified or analyzing shit in IMAX 1080HD60FPS or whatever, completely losing the plot.

I'm happy everyone here is logical, has common sense, and isn't beyond saving from American propaganda.


That being said, I saw a tik tok (great source, I know), of someone saying they HEARD someone else says they know yada etc x5) that the Orders ICE agents got when going to MN was that 100% of the somolis were undocumented (not true, 90% have papers, the people doing the fraud have papers), and that they have serious quotas they have to meet and are already getting desperate. And apparently the $50k bonus only hits if you don't quit for 5 years.. They're also under the impression that everyone loves them and they'll be welcome with open arms, which I believe because I guarantee they live in bubbles where their entire algorithm + TV (fox) is feeding them the garbage that made them that way.

I think this is all intentional (lying to them to provoke more violence to send a message).

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1858 on: January 15, 2026, 08:53:14 AM »
This threat of invasion on Greenland is insane.

Really disappointed im actually speechless. Europe always thought the US was it's closest ally.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1859 on: January 15, 2026, 09:18:17 AM »
This threat of invasion on Greenland is insane.

Really disappointed im actually speechless. Europe always thought the US was it's closest ally.

Trump did a good job of making MAGA think that isolating ourselves from our allies is a smart move.