Changes under Trump 2.0

[pop idiot]

Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

[botefdunn]

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His own parents...

You motherfuckers are so lost

I vote dem, YOU people, are on some other shit

Cultish behavior

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Really?   For not wanting to be involved with bigots, pedophile apoligists and simpleminded fools that have enabled the biggest monster on the planet?

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Sure If that's what you wanna call your parents that's on you.

People who thinks Trump's actually a pedephile and Epstein was some elaborate blackmail conspiracy are pretty stupid imo I hate dealing with them it's just qanon pizzagate for the left at this point

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I'm curious which of these statements you think is true, false, likely, or unlikely:

1. Jeffrey epstein was a convicted sex offender and trafficked minors for the purposes of sex.

2. Underage sex workers were a part of Epstein's entourage and present at various functions and parties he hosted.

3. Trump was friends with epstein and attended numerous epstein functions and parties.

4. Trump attended functions and/or parties where sex workers were present, some of whom may have been minors.

5. Trump may have had sex with sex workers.

6. Trump may have had sex with underage sex workers.


I'm asking because you talk as though trump having sex with a minor is preposterous, whereas to me it seems plausible based on public record. I'm curious where our difference of opinion is coming from. I believe 1-3 are true, and 4-6 are likely.

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I'm not here to play 20 questions, discuss anything, be civil, or have a conversation

[Chalupa]

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It’s braindead to ignore all the victims. The likelihood of all the ones who testified in court being liars is 0.1^23, at the highest. Plus, the DoJ has identified 1200+ victims. Simping for pedophile billionaires is pathetic.

Intelligence agencies started “Pizzagate” on 4chan so when actual accusations came out, people would dismiss it as a conspiracy.

[GnarAlarm]

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

Hates billionaires.
Votes for billionaire.
Supports party that exists solely to enrich billionaires.
Math ain't mathing.

[TastyBurrito]

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

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Hates billionaires.
Votes for billionaire.
Supports party that exists solely to enrich billionaires.
Math ain't mathing.

Reublicans are statistically some of the most undereducated people, so it makes sense none of their mathing ever maths:

Wants small government, votes for someone who wants to regulate your body, home, school, library, very existence
Wants someone tough on crime, votes for a convict with 34 felonies.
Wants someone who cares about fraud, votes for someone who pardoned those who defrauded the government for BILLIONS
Wants someone who will drain the swamp, votes for someone who makes their family Special Envoy to the middle east before making personal deals with Saudi Arabia which directly affects foreign policy.
Wants someone who is for the military, votes for a draft dodger who calls dead veterans "losers and suckers"
Wants someone who gets things done, votes for someone who hasn't delivered on a single campaign promise.
Wants someone who will protect kids, votes for someone accused of being part of one of biggest international pedophile, child-trafficking rings ever.
Wants someone who will make America healthy again, votes for someone who severely de-regulates FDA, EPA, and other orgs that protect our well-being as well as defunding healthcare.
Wants someone who can tell it like it is, votes for the biggest snowflake who can't stand criticism.

[pop idiot]

Math ain't mathing.

Well duh! It's easy to flip old conservative talking points to fit a narrative if I really wanted to point out obvious hypocrisy... as TastyBurrito readily listed off. I wasn't trying to "school him" or convince him of anything, simply wanted to hear that perspective from someone I love, whom I am comfortable being completely honest with and willing to engage.

We were having fun roasting each other tho. He was telling me about his son getting into Reel Big Fish, so I asked if he'd started transitioning yet. Male bonding is so weird!

[TastyBurrito]

College Republicans at University of Florida was disbanded after members were seen on social media throwing up the Nazi sieg-heil salute. Now they’re suing the university demanding they protect their right to free speech. The same group that wanted people who didn’t speak lovingly of Charlie Kirk fired and/or expelled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2026/03/16/florida-college-republicans-antisemitic/

[TheLurper]

College Republicans at University of Florida was disbanded after members were seen on social media throwing up the Nazi sieg-heil salute. Now they’re suing the university demanding they protect their right to free speech. The same group that wanted people who didn’t speak lovingly of Charlie Kirk fired and/or expelled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2026/03/16/florida-college-republicans-antisemitic/

I'm sure the White House will step in because they really have a moral compass that guides their actions they don't just conveniently come up with excuses to punish people they don't like.

[Atiba Applebum]

Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez

[The real veganshawn]

Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez

This one hurts

[Rusty Shackleford]

"I didn't see it. I mean, somebody puts it up. We have alot of people working for us."
anybody else remember the maga mob criticizing Joe for not being in charge, and claiming that other people were actually running the government while he was totally unaware?

[TastyBurrito]

"I didn't see it. I mean, somebody puts it up. We have alot of people working for us."
anybody else remember the maga mob criticizing Joe for not being in charge, and claiming that other people were actually running the government while he was totally unaware?

First off, in the email he's talking about how these donations are for his campaign fund. What campaign fund? He's on his second term and can't run for shit again.

Secondly, it's sickening how he's constantly politicizing the military (which is supposed to be apolitical) with these photo ops at transfers, at Arlington Cemetery, on actual ships, and at Military Academy graduations and people in the military are okay with it. Biden looked at his watch once after a ceremony and MAGA military members went off talking about his blatant disrespect of soldiers.

[botefdunn]

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"I didn't see it. I mean, somebody puts it up. We have alot of people working for us."
anybody else remember the maga mob criticizing Joe for not being in charge, and claiming that other people were actually running the government while he was totally unaware?

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First off, in the email he's talking about how these donations are for his campaign fund. What campaign fund? He's on his second term and can't run for shit again.

Campaign, crusade, it's an easy mistake to make.

[Steely Daniel]

You can buy the private national security briefings but hurry supplies are limited.

I used to just try to ignore American politics but I dove in head first the last few months in an unhealthy way and man am I tired.

[Emo jimmy]

Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez

Agreed

Not that theres ever a bad time for getting abusers the fuck outta here and exposed but I question the prioritization of getting a dead one when we got an active one with nuclear codes right now taking the whole country with him to hell

[Jehoshaphat Augustus]

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Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez

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I question the prioritization of getting a dead one when we got an active one with nuclear codes right now taking the whole country with him to hell

this is the same the active one who said "we're going after the fraudsters" while simultaneously pardoning 14 people convicted of fraud

[pop idiot]

Also of note: Fuck, Caesar Chavez

[GardenSkater77]

[Plan9Customs]

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Also of note: Fuck Caesar Chavez

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I question the prioritization of getting a dead one when we got an active one with nuclear codes right now taking the whole country with him to hell

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this is the same the active one who said "we're going after the fraudsters" while simultaneously pardoning 14 people convicted of fraud

‘I’m waging war on narcoterrorists.’ Pardons narcoterroist.

[TastyBurrito]

Someone I know asked the question:

What do you think all those military/alpha male dudes who live by the Jocko Willink’s “Extreme Ownership” mentality think of Trump? His actions are the antithesis of that lifestyle that desperately cleave to.

Leadership that doesn’t lead, inspire, or take ownership over his subordinates or their actions.

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Someone I know asked the question:

What do you think all those military/alpha male dudes who live by the Jocko Willink’s “Extreme Ownership” mentality think of Trump? His actions are the antithesis of that lifestyle that desperately cleave to.

Leadership that doesn’t lead, inspire, or take ownership over his subordinates or their actions.

I have asked myself the the same question. Trump has never owned up to a single mistake in his life. It is always everyone else’s mistake. I think it is just another contradiction they are willing to repress. Trump is also a terrible Christian, a terrible husband and extremely corrupt. Still, he’s got the support of conservative Christians and anti-corruption and anti-elite conspiracy theorists.

[Atiba Applebum]

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Someone I know asked the question:

What do you think all those military/alpha male dudes who live by the Jocko Willink’s “Extreme Ownership” mentality think of Trump? His actions are the antithesis of that lifestyle that desperately cleave to.

Leadership that doesn’t lead, inspire, or take ownership over his subordinates or their actions.

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I have asked myself the the same question. Trump has never owned up to a single mistake in his life. It is always everyone else’s mistake. I think it is just another contradiction they are willing to repress. Trump is also a terrible Christian, a terrible husband and extremely corrupt. Still, he’s got the support of conservative Christians and anti-corruption and anti-elite conspiracy theorists.

Means justify the ends with them.   He got them what they wanted with Roe V Wade and he might get them what they want for Revelation

[Atiba Applebum]

Any CA voters with opinions on Gov race? 

I saw some Mahan interviews (major of San Jose) and liked what I heard, but have massive concern with his support from Silicon Valley and others I don’t like endorsing him.   

I get a lot of Steyer ads on YouTube.   Seems fine.  See zero Swallwell ads or anyone else

[brwrxstl]

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

The military isn't a "branch of government" lol.  You're thinking of the legislative, executive, and judicial.  The rest of your post doesn't isn't a whole lot better, lol. 

[TastyBurrito]

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

I can tell your teachers used to pass your tests back to you upside down.

[alansabitch]

Is social security considered socialism?

Why don't we have all old people voting dem for social security and Medicare, and why dont all young people vote repub since young people really don't need that shit

But its the opposite

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

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The military isn't a "branch of government" lol.  You're thinking of the legislative, executive, and judicial.  The rest of your post doesn't isn't a whole lot better, lol.

you people are so stupid and the way you reach for anything as a "gotcha" is embarrassing

congratulations you remembered "the three branches" of government from middle school.

i'm using the term loosely and just saying it's ran by the government it's funded by the government it's part of the government but it's an entity in its own


people enlisting and serving and getting benefits therefore after isn't fucking socialism was my point

[brwrxstl]

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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.

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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.

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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

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There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on

another middle school graduate clinging to the fact he can remember the "three branches of government"

that wasn't what i was referring to you insipid person
i was using the word branch to separate it from being a controlling entity or socialist benefit package

the military is a branch separate from the government it exists to serve its own purpose and when you enlist in it you being given benefits isn't fucking socialism

and for maduro again more mental gymnastics and more pathetic desperation to mar yourself feel like you have some sorry of moral high ground to perpetuate your angry leftist rage from