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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2340 on: March 21, 2026, 11:01:37 AM »
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on
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another middle school graduate clinging to the fact he can remember the "three branches of government"

that wasn't what i was referring to you insipid person
i was using the word branch to separate it from being a controlling entity or socialist benefit package

the military is a branch separate from the government it exists to serve its own purpose and when you enlist in it you being given benefits isn't fucking socialism

and for maduro again more mental gymnastics and more pathetic desperation to mar yourself feel like you have some sorry of moral high ground to perpetuate your angry leftist rage from

You're the one sounding angry to be honest.  Try decaf.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2341 on: March 21, 2026, 12:22:13 PM »
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2342 on: March 21, 2026, 01:21:48 PM »

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2343 on: March 21, 2026, 01:23:11 PM »
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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There’s so many wrong things there, but thinking the military is a branch of government is hilarious.   

We also didnt overthrow Maduro.   We kidnapped/arrested him.  The same government still exists.   

And the government came up with many of those innovations.   Internet, GPS, and so on
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another middle school graduate clinging to the fact he can remember the "three branches of government"

that wasn't what i was referring to you insipid person
i was using the word branch to separate it from being a controlling entity or socialist benefit package

the military is a branch separate from the government it exists to serve its own purpose and when you enlist in it you being given benefits isn't fucking socialism

and for maduro again more mental gymnastics and more pathetic desperation to mar yourself feel like you have some sorry of moral high ground to perpetuate your angry leftist rage from

What are the mental gymnastics?

My leftist rage is that no one has done more to destroy America’s standing in the world than Trump.   He’s eliminated all our soft power programs around the world, made America inhospitable to immigrants who might previously would have come to attend our colleges and universities (brain drain), disrupted the world economy through nonsense tariffs to the point where our allies have figured out ways to strike deals around the world that cut us out, and most recently started bombing Iran which caused the most obvious repercussion with closing the strait of Hormuz which has affected oil and fertilizer around the world which means many countries like Laos has citizens who can’t afford the rise in gas prices and therefore can’t do ther jobs which bring them money to live on all because of a war no one in 40 years besides Bibi thought was a good idea.   Oh but at least we’ve lifted sanctions on Russian and Iranian oil as a result which fucks Ukraine hard and makes both antagonistic countries a lot of money at the moment and that many people in other countries are racing to buy electric cars, but they sure as shit aren’t buying American made ones.   

This isn’t even getting at the massive corruption that Trump and his cronies engage in which is just as bad because it’s guided America to this massive compromise of its present and future

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2344 on: March 21, 2026, 01:24:25 PM »
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What’s up with presidents grabbing ass?

George H.W. Bush did that shit too.
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/fourth-woman-accuses-president-george-hw-bush-of-groping-in-photo-op/97-486622947

Not to mention his David Cop-a-feel joke to his nurses

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2345 on: March 21, 2026, 02:07:11 PM »
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Has anyone  here written off any MAGA family members?  My parents are on the verge of me telling them to fuck off and stay away from me.  I'm pretty much done with anyone that helped enable this mess we are in.
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I have a MAGA uncle, whom I recently hung out with after not seeing for a decade or so. He was my "cool uncle" growing up (used to skate and took me to see Stiff Little Fingers) and my intent going in was to enjoy the company of someone who I disagree with about most things but care about enough to try.

It was fun! We roasted each other all night but a thru-line was found quickly: we both agreed that billionaires are the problem. After that, any talking point was kind of moot when you remove semantics and propaganda. He's retired Air Force so I called him a goddamn socialist for his free healthcare, schooling and housing assistance, saying he secretly voted for Bernie. Kept telling him to be careful not to get infected by my libtard wokeness in case the cure only comes in vaccine form. In jest, he started calling himself my white nationalist uncle and kept offering to take me to see Sammy Hagar. I wonder if Lucero roasts Lance in a similar manner? My uncle is indoctrinated, ageing and comfortable, but I don't see his beliefs coming from a place of hatred. Only fear.

Anyways, I bet (hope) a thru-line can be found with your Rents and I think it's kinda our job to try. Empathy n'stuff.
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"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....
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The military isn't a "branch of government" lol.  You're thinking of the legislative, executive, and judicial.  The rest of your post doesn't isn't a whole lot better, lol.
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you people are so stupid and the way you reach for anything as a "gotcha" is embarrassing

congratulations you remembered "the three branches" of government from middle school.

i'm using the term loosely and just saying it's ran by the government it's funded by the government it's part of the government but it's an entity in its own


people enlisting and serving and getting benefits therefore after isn't fucking socialism was my point

I'm not reaching for a gotcha moment, genuinely asking you to considere the following: military are paid for their servicr, correct? So using tax dollars to subsidize their healthcare is in fact a form of socialism, socialism not being a bogeyman "gotcha" thing, just a word that describe pilitical decisions that take the greater good of a society into consideration when administering its funds. The oppisite would be a politucal system where the sole concern is maintaining the system by which each person can make money and pay taxes, more or less. So again, military are paid the same as anyone else and could choose as individuals to allocate funds to healthcare, but there is an administrative provision made for them at a government level. Personally, I think this is good, because as individuals we can plan for oyrselves, but as a group it's nice to have safety nets so you don't have to watch yourself or your neighbours slip through the cracks so to speak.
The other thing, again, not tryna "gotcha", just respnding to the point you raised: not one billionaire inventrd any of the tech innovations yyou mentioned. In most cades, innovations comefrom the middle.class, people working in labs or factories with backgrounds in engineering or hard science, not management or business admin type positions. Most of the tme, billionaires buy smaller companies, the typical "start up" scheme, and fold them into their companies, thereby redirecting the money generated towards themselves. I'm not saying this doesn't generate wealth for other parts of society, which I think is your point, just saying that the billiinaires themselves are not generated the advances in tech, just consistently rolling them into their portfolios. I personally think that there are other, better ways to distribute wealth, since my values tend toward rewarding the actual work rather than the managerial class, but that's another conversation and I won't assume your positions on that.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2346 on: March 21, 2026, 02:18:57 PM »
I don't think Trent or Jesse would be impressed by any of these arguments. Trent wasn't all that bright, but even he would know that these are emotional and superficially ideological arguments rather than one's built on any sort of understanding of the political-economy.

Socialism and capitalism do not operate as simple binaries. They are on a spectrum. America's economy while leaning into the capitalist side of the spectrum, retains many socialist aspects.

The military is a good example of one of these socialist aspects. The government's broad interjection of money into the economy and support of individuals is very far from what any sort of pure capitalist would want. I feel your issue here is not one about the actual workings of the military, but instead, the idea the military is loved by conservatives, so it must be anti-socialism in every and any aspect. Similar to how the NFL is great at presenting itself for conservative tastes, but under the surface it has unions, shares television revenue, limits salaries, and makes sure the weaker teams get first pick at the draft (worst team gets first pick). All things those who want a more socialist political economy would be in favor of and "capitalist" would be against.

If you want a purely capitalist military, I suggest looking at the private firms like Blackwater (who renamed themselves Academi and is part of Constellis) to see how they operate. A purely capitalist form of military would be very unlikely to offer lifetime healthcare and a real pension plan. And any executive would certainly get a chuckle out of the idea that someone is owed a lifetime benefit for "serving their country." They wouldn't give a fuck about nationalistic ideas of serving a country. Instead, the soldiers would likely get a 401K and be told to "figure it out" once they no longer had a job. Just like most other private jobs in America.

Your billionaire argument is also weak. Alan Turing's government funded work and the American military's ENIAC, DARPA work played a big role in developing the computer. As did ARAPANET in the development of the internet. GPS was developed by the Department of Defense. And, CSIRO (Aussie government) helped create WiFi. Private companies certainly did a great job moving this into mass production, but lol, thanking my billionaires, calm down Pam.

Not to mention this argument assumes important innovations  = wealth beyond anyone's wildest dreams. Tesla, the guy who vulcanized rubber for tires, Babbit invented the circular saw and many others didn't benefit from their inventions or discoveries that changed society. And, even more direct to your wifi point, Hertz discovered electromagnet waves and never tried to make himself rich. It seems to me, he just liked science.
 
Finally, this fails to separate the benefit of an invention or a service and the distortion of power and democracy when a few people hold massive amounts of wealth. It isn't being upset with the service or the invention, but the concentrated power and wealth some people are allowed to hold. John Locke (huge advocate for private property and whose ideas helped justify taking lands from Native Americans) said:

“Nor was this appropriation of any parcel of land, by improving it, any prejudice to any other man; since there was still enough, and as good left; and more than the yet unprovided could use. So that, in effect, there was never the less left for others because of his enclosure for himself: for he that leaves as much as another can make use of, does as good as take nothing at all. Nobody could think himself injured by the drinking of another man, though he took a good draught, who had a whole river of the same water left him to quench his thirst: and the case of land and water, where there is enough of both, is perfectly the same, at least where there is enough, and as good, left in common for others.

Locke's point here being that private property is cool, as long as there is enough left over for others. With the mass concentration of wealth in a society where people in America are without homes, food, healthcare, even Locke might say, "Well, shit. Maybe there isn't enough left over for the commons and we need to do something here. This isn't good for society. This is not holding true to the ideas I put forward in my work."

Yes, Venezuela is a great example of socialism.  :o Let's bring them into the picture rather than Denmark, Norway, Finland, or places that obviously have a high quality of life. Let's ignore that China who is "communist" is also the biggest fear of most Americans and the second most powerful country on the planet. An equal argument would be "South Sudan and Burundi are capitalist nightmares, all capitalist ideas are terrible."

Honestly, these superficial but loud arguments are annoying. They are more emotional than based in reasoning or any sort of grounding in an understanding of economics or political theory.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2347 on: March 21, 2026, 04:06:00 PM »
Billionaires>broke bois

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2348 on: March 21, 2026, 09:21:54 PM »
Billionaires>broke bois
Get your freak on elsewhere melania

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2349 on: March 22, 2026, 08:33:49 AM »

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2350 on: March 22, 2026, 11:42:07 AM »
Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2351 on: March 22, 2026, 01:48:35 PM »
Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense

Ted Cruz just suggested to do what the Democrats have been putting forward for weeks and MAGA has been voting down — TO SEPERATE ICE FROM DHS FUNDING BILL.

And he’s doing this to the applause of the GOP. Fucking Christ. Talk about performative action.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5794991-cruz-immigration-funding-split-proposal/

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2352 on: March 22, 2026, 03:00:04 PM »
Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense

Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2353 on: March 22, 2026, 03:35:08 PM »
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Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense
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Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown

ICE will 100% not supplement TSA or do their job. Tom Hooman even announced that earlier today (https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-tsa-plan-dhs-shutdown/). They will for sure pull all the brown people out the lines, harrass them, and detain them making them miss their flights.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2354 on: March 22, 2026, 03:43:55 PM »
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Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense
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Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown
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ICE will 100% not supplement TSA or do their job. Tom Hooman even announced that earlier today (https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-tsa-plan-dhs-shutdown/). They will for sure pull all the brown people out the lines, harrass them, and detain them making them miss their flights.
I'm sure turning already backed up airports into worse shitshows similar to what they did on the streets of US cities will absolutely work out for them and get ICE funded lickety split. The mid leading the mid and they can't think a single idea through to it's logical conclusion. See Iran for another recent example.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2355 on: March 22, 2026, 04:27:52 PM »
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Ice at airports starting monday

Because you know those illegal immigrants just stay flying wherever with no documentation, makes total fucking sense
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Not that I agree with the move, but it’s because there are TSA staffing issues at airports because of the partial government shutdown
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ICE will 100% not supplement TSA or do their job. Tom Hooman even announced that earlier today (https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5795316-homan-ice-tsa-plan-dhs-shutdown/). They will for sure pull all the brown people out the lines, harrass them, and detain them making them miss their flights.
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I'm sure turning already backed up airports into worse shitshows similar to what they did on the streets of US cities will absolutely work out for them and get ICE funded lickety split. The mid leading the mid and they can't think a single idea through to it's logical conclusion. See Iran for another recent example.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2356 on: March 23, 2026, 05:36:04 AM »
Here is another news story that none of the major outlets are picking up. There is talk that the aircraft carrier that caught fire was set fire on purpose as a way to force return to port. They had been out to sea 5 months past their scheduled return and their toilets were full. 4 billion dollar floating port-a-potty.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/did-exhausted-sailors-set-fire-to-uss-gerald-r-ford/ar-AA1Z4myA?cvid=69bdd5c3438a40e392bc780e782d9dc4&ocid=mailsignout

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2357 on: March 23, 2026, 08:44:13 AM »
And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

I wouldn't be calling other people stupid when you're saying shit like this

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2358 on: March 23, 2026, 12:51:41 PM »
"my uncle is indoctrinated"

Leftists who play the whole "it's our job to pity people we disagree with" are some of the most condescending people ever.

Getting healthcare through the military isn't "socialism".  The guy served and earned his healthcare. Socialism is the government replacing enterprise. The military is a necessary branch of government and people who serve aren't doing it to try and overthrow free market healthcare or businesses.

And then to come on here and proclaim that "billionaires are the problem" and using him agreeing with you to assert that as a fact is pathetic.  Billionaires are the problem? OK get off your iphone, get off your computer, pull your router, kill your wifi. You wouldn't even have access to be crying about the system that provides you with everything you have if it wasn't for the people who innovate and come up with these things.

There's a reason all of Venezuela was dancing in the street to the YMCA when we overthrew Maduro. Your socialist pipe dream isn't anything beyond a delusion and there's millions over people living under socialism screaming that from the rooftops but you're too arrogant to listen.

Your uncle never even called you a "woke libtard" you called yourself, you're the one perpetuating this giant schism with him when you're the only one in the relationship who's browbeating (passively aggressively through jokes) the guy for not thinking like you.

But you're right he's the one who's "scared"....

I don't pity my uncle tho. There wasn't any giant schism and that was kinda my point. He laughed at me calling him a socialist but also said "damn, I never thought about it that way" because, duh. Government subsidy allowed him to go to school and buy a home for his family. I ain't mad at that. He served his country under men who didn't and thankfully came home not too traumatised. He deserves his subsidy. That term didn't trigger him, nor does "woke libtard" trigger me (sleepy neocon might be triggersome tho :P). We had fun. We got completely trashed and I hope we do it again before another decade passes.

Your billionaire comment was cringy tho. Remember that old move It's A Wonderful Life? Mr. Potter wasn't the hero...



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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2359 on: March 23, 2026, 02:01:20 PM »
helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2360 on: March 23, 2026, 02:43:33 PM »
helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/03/23/linking-war-iran-end-times-netanyahus-rational-actor-mask-has-fallen
Good article that summarizes weeks of articles that I’ve read. I’m going to subscribe to his Substack.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2361 on: March 23, 2026, 04:51:18 PM »
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helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/03/23/linking-war-iran-end-times-netanyahus-rational-actor-mask-has-fallen
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Good article that summarizes weeks of articles that I’ve read. I’m going to subscribe to his Substack.

his substack sometimes:
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2362 on: March 23, 2026, 06:19:40 PM »
I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2363 on: March 23, 2026, 08:23:54 PM »
I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?


This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2364 on: March 24, 2026, 12:31:04 PM »
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I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?
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This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched
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Other countries make good electric cars. The American car industry is a dinosaur with one foot in the grave.


I get that - just don’t understand the thinking from the Tesla CEO to support the guy who was looking to kill the industry and salt the earth

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2365 on: March 24, 2026, 12:45:07 PM »
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I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?
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This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched
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Other countries make good electric cars. The American car industry is a dinosaur with one foot in the grave.
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I get that - just don’t understand the thinking from the Tesla CEO to support the guy who was looking to kill the industry and salt the earth
He got rid of the investigations, got more subsidies from the government, and got MAGA supporters to buy his cars in blue states that offer tax rebates on EV purchases. Billionaires, at a certain point, will continue making money no matter what they do just because they’re invested in so many sectors.

Additionally, he probably knew that the Epstein Files would go public, and switched to vocally being MAGA. When people go MAGA and claim Christianity, it absolves them of any shitty behavior. Also, Trump is always doing fried shit, so it takes the heat off him if there’s any backlash in the media. People probably already forgot that Musk tried to invite himself to Epstein’s island, but even Epstein thought he was lame.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2366 on: March 24, 2026, 01:08:24 PM »
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I love that we are country that needs more and more power, but we decided not only to say no to green energy sources, but refund people who already pay us to build energy.

Not to mention water issues, all of our reservoirs should be covered in solar panels for free energy and to prevent some evaporation.

But, America makes money when oil prices are high, right? This is good for us?
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This is the country where this idiot’s two biggest donors were the oil industry and the electric car guy. 

Still can’t make sense of it.   Get a guy elected to gut the federal agencies that are investigating you only for that guy to then do everything he can to destroy the market for non-combustible engines in America and start a bunch of wars for oil that make everyone flock to cheap electric cars made by other countries.   I’m sure he thought the worst that would happen is his competitors leaving the marketplace like Honda scrapping their EV line and he would remain untouched
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Other countries make good electric cars. The American car industry is a dinosaur with one foot in the grave.
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I get that - just don’t understand the thinking from the Tesla CEO to support the guy who was looking to kill the industry and salt the earth
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He got rid of the investigations, got more subsidies from the government, and got MAGA supporters to buy his cars in blue states that offer tax rebates on EV purchases. Billionaires, at a certain point, will continue making money no matter what they do just because they’re invested in so many sectors.

Additionally, he probably knew that the Epstein Files would go public, and switched to vocally being MAGA. When people go MAGA and claim Christianity, it absolves them of any shitty behavior. Also, Trump is always doing fried shit, so it takes the heat off him if there’s any backlash in the media. People probably already forgot that Musk tried to invite himself to Epstein’s island, but even Epstein thought he was lame.

EVs are one thing, but deepening the contractual relationship that space x has with the government is a whole other incentive.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2367 on: March 24, 2026, 01:23:46 PM »
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helped the homie with some proof reading and editing and he got the article published!

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/03/23/linking-war-iran-end-times-netanyahus-rational-actor-mask-has-fallen
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Good article that summarizes weeks of articles that I’ve read. I’m going to subscribe to his Substack.
Really helpful frame of reference. The coverage I see has utterly failed to fill in the gap between the rational actor version we were sold by neoliberalism and the vicious, manipulative super creep he was on his recent US podcast tour. Obviously his actions have always been deplorable and he's a war criminal evading justice at this point but I needed some religious framing to understand the current mask-off version.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2368 on: March 24, 2026, 02:23:18 PM »
Really tired of the dump and pump and dump schemes. This makes the insider trading from congressmen and women look quaint.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg547ljepvzo

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #2369 on: March 24, 2026, 07:16:12 PM »

THE TRUMPS ALL VOTED BY MAIL
hey hold up I thought he said mail in voting was fraudulent