TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY

[Ghost Face]

I know Vans aren't the most loved shoes on Slap but this increase if going to hit them hard. Are any other brands made in Vietnam?

"Some of the worst-hit trading partners were in Asia, including 49% for Cambodia, 46% for Vietnam and 44% for military-ruled Myanmar, recently hit by a devastating earthquake."

[fernando the skater]

Nike and Adidas are also made in Vietnam. And many other clothing goods.

Genius move in applying the highest tariffs on the countries the USA consumer buys the most from.

[skateboarder4life]

Funny they're calling it liberation day when all this is gonna do is trap our collective nuts in a vice

Liberating you from your money

[devils acrobat]

Hey all, I am struggling to understand what the tariffs will mean for prices of skate goods in the short and midterm. I am coming from the perspective of a EU citizen here. Maybe someone who has expertise in economy is willing to clarify some of the points below?

It seems that tariffs are associated with products going into the US. If europe or countries in asia are now adding counter-tariffs then anything imported from the US will also get more pricey. What if an US company (e.g. dlx) has their boards manufactured in asia and these will be imported to the EU. Would tariffs still apply and products get more expensive for EU citizens? Do tariffs only apply for products associated with an US company or will they also affect EU trade with other continents where no US company is involved?

[Ghost Face]

Hey all, I am struggling to understand what the tariffs will mean for prices of skate goods in the short and midterm. I am coming from the perspective of a EU citizen here. Maybe someone who has expertise in economy is willing to clarify some of the points below?

It seems that tariffs are associated with products going into the US. If europe or countries in asia are now adding counter-tariffs then anything imported from the US will also get more pricey. What if an US company (e.g. dlx) has their boards manufactured in asia and these will be imported to the EU. Would tariffs still apply and products get more expensive for EU citizens? Do tariffs only apply for products associated with an US company or will they also affect EU trade with other continents where no US company is involved?

the way I see it there will be a slow down on buying in the US due to the higher price in the US at retail and these losses will have to be made up by the rest of the globe. most, if not all, brands will raise prices globally across the board to try minimise the hike on prices in the US.

IE. a Shoe in US was retailing at $80 and they will now have to be $160 in US due to the tarriffs but if they raise W/S prices globally then they will be $120 EVERYWHERE. The world will pay more to keep US retail prices down.

[Osage]

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Hey all, I am struggling to understand what the tariffs will mean for prices of skate goods in the short and midterm. I am coming from the perspective of a EU citizen here. Maybe someone who has expertise in economy is willing to clarify some of the points below?

It seems that tariffs are associated with products going into the US. If europe or countries in asia are now adding counter-tariffs then anything imported from the US will also get more pricey. What if an US company (e.g. dlx) has their boards manufactured in asia and these will be imported to the EU. Would tariffs still apply and products get more expensive for EU citizens? Do tariffs only apply for products associated with an US company or will they also affect EU trade with other continents where no US company is involved?

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the way I see it there will be a slow down on buying in the US due to the higher price in the US at retail and these losses will have to be made up by the rest of the globe. most, if not all, brands will raise prices globally across the board to try minimise the hike on prices in the US.

IE. a Shoe in US was retailing at $80 and they will now have to be $160 in US due to the tarriffs but if they raise W/S prices globally then they will be $120 EVERYWHERE. The world will pay more to keep US retail prices down.

  The last two times the US imposed tariffs like this were in 1828 and 1930 and it's obviously a different world now. That said, they both failed spectacularly and essentially stifled buying of everything in the US and raised prices here on domestic and imported goods while exports across the globe floundered. Worldwide prices did go up but not much.

  As for what the current tariffs will do to skate goods, everything in America is going to get more expensive. It will happen very quickly in some markets like energy and automotive and probably a little slower in markets like musical instruments and skateboards. Nobody really knows what is going to happen worldwide but many people feel that people will simply be buying less goods from US based companies and that prices will go up everywhere like you say.

[banksandledges]

Time to cop some shoe goo. Footwear prices are about to skyrocket.

[roba]

yeah them asics that you're pushing are already like 200 euros, shit was skyrocketing before the tariffs were even a thought

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Hey all, I am struggling to understand what the tariffs will mean for prices of skate goods in the short and midterm. I am coming from the perspective of a EU citizen here. Maybe someone who has expertise in economy is willing to clarify some of the points below?

It seems that tariffs are associated with products going into the US. If europe or countries in asia are now adding counter-tariffs then anything imported from the US will also get more pricey. What if an US company (e.g. dlx) has their boards manufactured in asia and these will be imported to the EU. Would tariffs still apply and products get more expensive for EU citizens? Do tariffs only apply for products associated with an US company or will they also affect EU trade with other continents where no US company is involved?

Tariffs are primarily associated with country of origin so there may be a silver lining for the EU. In your example, if deluxe is pressing boards in China and has them shipped directly to a distributor in the EU, it doesn’t matter that deluxe is based in the US, it’s a Chinese good shipping to EU, so only current tariffs the EU has levied onto Chinese wood products applies. There’s even an argument that if deluxe imported the boards into the US and then shipped to the EU, they wouldn’t be subject to the retaliatory US/EU tariffs (but they wouldn’t be subject to the higher prices since deluxe paid tariffs on importing the boards).

Theres a high likelihood that US companies with a lot of manufactured product will now try to redirect it away from the US and that could even benefit Canadian and EU markets. Let’s say Last Resort has a container of shoes in Vietnam they were going to bring into the US; at 46% additional duty, that doesn’t make sense anymore, so that product may get shipped to other distributors and drive up supply and *maybe* prices go down slightly to help move it, or countries want to attract more trade partners while the US steps on its own dick and makes some trade deals. Who knows

[Too Frank To Fred]

Do I now buy those half cabs I've been eyeing for $60? Please advise....

[fernando the skater]

Do I now buy those half cabs I've been eyeing for $60? Please advise....

As VFCorp stock is down 23% today you might as well. Who knows if they'll exist in a few weeks time...

[Turtle Boy]

Price of shoes are about to blow up. Time to stock on shoes.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Do I now buy those half cabs I've been eyeing for $60? Please advise....

SMASH THAT BUY BUTTON BROTHER

[BelknappBruiser]

Price of shoes are about to blow up. Time to stock on shoes.

Luckily, my shoe room is filled to the brim, yo! Was starting to second guess my doomsday stockpile, but now things are looking up, in that regard. As for the future of the United States of America, well, we shall see...

[Magnolia]

THE CHINESE CENTURY HAS ARRIVED

PRESIDENT XI PLEASE LIBERATE THE AMERIKKKAN SKATERS FROM THIS NIGHTMARE

(Can we please get a belt and road initiative for building marble plazas all over the US?)

[Unkle Fleak]

I’m building a bloard press.

Also I’m thinking about starting a pals fest. For all of us to meet up at to guide skating into oblivion

[devils acrobat]

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Hey all, I am struggling to understand what the tariffs will mean for prices of skate goods in the short and midterm. I am coming from the perspective of a EU citizen here. Maybe someone who has expertise in economy is willing to clarify some of the points below?

It seems that tariffs are associated with products going into the US. If europe or countries in asia are now adding counter-tariffs then anything imported from the US will also get more pricey. What if an US company (e.g. dlx) has their boards manufactured in asia and these will be imported to the EU. Would tariffs still apply and products get more expensive for EU citizens? Do tariffs only apply for products associated with an US company or will they also affect EU trade with other continents where no US company is involved?

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Tariffs are primarily associated with country of origin so there may be a silver lining for the EU. In your example, if deluxe is pressing boards in China and has them shipped directly to a distributor in the EU, it doesn’t matter that deluxe is based in the US, it’s a Chinese good shipping to EU, so only current tariffs the EU has levied onto Chinese wood products applies. There’s even an argument that if deluxe imported the boards into the US and then shipped to the EU, they wouldn’t be subject to the retaliatory US/EU tariffs (but they wouldn’t be subject to the higher prices since deluxe paid tariffs on importing the boards).

Theres a high likelihood that US companies with a lot of manufactured product will now try to redirect it away from the US and that could even benefit Canadian and EU markets. Let’s say Last Resort has a container of shoes in Vietnam they were going to bring into the US; at 46% additional duty, that doesn’t make sense anymore, so that product may get shipped to other distributors and drive up supply and *maybe* prices go down slightly to help move it, or countries want to attract more trade partners while the US steps on its own dick and makes some trade deals. Who knows

Thank you, exactly what I was looking for. Also shout out Ghost Face and Osage

[fernando the skater]

One person happy.

[Magnolia]

One person happy.

So canadian lumber is currently exempt from tariffs under the terms of the USMCA but idk where prime gets its glue or heat transfers from. If they don't already have some US based manufacturing the costs to get it up and running will be prohibitive

[Ghost Face]

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So canadian lumber is currently exempt from tariffs under the terms of the USMCA but idk where prime gets its glue or heat transfers from. If they don't already have some US based manufacturing the costs to get it up and running will be prohibitive

And if they do see an influx of order they'll have to hire more people and that means.........prices go up.

[globe fusion]

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So canadian lumber is currently exempt from tariffs under the terms of the USMCA but idk where prime gets its glue or heat transfers from. If they don't already have some US based manufacturing the costs to get it up and running will be prohibitive

lot of woodshops use usa lumber, glue is likely from the states. transfers are probably china but i believe prime screen prints in house?

[TwisT]

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So canadian lumber is currently exempt from tariffs under the terms of the USMCA but idk where prime gets its glue or heat transfers from. If they don't already have some US based manufacturing the costs to get it up and running will be prohibitive

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lot of woodshops use usa lumber, glue is likely from the states. transfers are probably china but i believe prime screen prints in house?

my thing with the prime post, is what about the other Woodshops who have been doing production in the USA and competing the whole time? Why could they make it work, and not prime?

[ragdoll]

its joever

[Mongo Lloyd]

Prime already charges an arm and a leg for products.

[neonbrown]

One person happy.

Except the export market for his decks just got destroyed.

[Osage]

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So canadian lumber is currently exempt from tariffs under the terms of the USMCA but idk where prime gets its glue or heat transfers from. If they don't already have some US based manufacturing the costs to get it up and running will be prohibitive

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lot of woodshops use usa lumber, glue is likely from the states. transfers are probably china but i believe prime screen prints in house?

   Titebond is made in America and either is or was used by many manufacturers. There are Chinese knock offs of it that I'm told are basically the same thing that are currently cheaper and used in a lot of industies, including skateboard. Some of the base chemicals as well as the packaging etc... for Titebone comes from overseas so there will be a price increase there at least somewhat.

  As for lumber, almost all of the Maple used in skateboard decks is from Canada. They will typically list it as "North American Maple" on goods sold in the U.S. and as "American Maple" in goods sold overseas. This "American Maple" comes from Canada.

  Other things like transfers, stickers, shrink wrap etc... are all coming from China. Not to mention tooling, drill and router bits, dust collection filters, sandpaper etc....

   There will literally be no industry in America that won't be effected.

[hotservicedeli]

Rich people activities.
With these prices, a snowboard leash for skateboards could be the gimmick accessory of the year.

[augustmoon]

Nike already showing signs they’re going to do massive guts across the company.  These tariffs will affect them deeply.  No way this doesn’t do significant damage to the skate program

[Alan]

One person happy.

Well if they're happy, I'm happy too!

Also,

[Malcolm Sex]

https://shop-eat-surf-outdoor.com/news/theres-no-way-this-can-last-surf-and-outdoor-industry-on-trump-tariffs/