TARIFFS AND THE SKATE INDUSTRY

[rawbertson.]

my shops boards are control and i really did not like the way it looked, had a massive taper from nose to tail. my friend says they skate amazing though. maybe once the prices have actually hit in a meaningful way i will switch. got a GX1000 BBS board that i really wanted and price was right on that, i think $90canadian, and got a Roger board as well that was actually a little bit more i think it was $100 canadian. (HLC made in USA). shop boards were $70 i believe.

this is literally the same price iwas paying for boards when i started in 1998 and money is worth probably about 1/2 as much back then so really i cant complain...

[skunty]

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I was sent this yesterday

If anyone can confirm that Skate1 has upped prices I'd be hugely grateful.

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   I had a few things in my cart at 303, including a set of Reds. I just went to checkout and a couple days ago they were $19.95 and today they are $24.95. I just quickly looked around and a number of places seem to have raised their prices on Chinese Bones over the past couple days. Some places still have them between $17.95-$20.00 but I bet that changes quickly.

my local posted on IG that whole sale cost of reds went up by 50%... assuming thats true across the board then 303 ate some of that cost increase to only up the price by 25%

[Ghost Face]

Thanks for confirmimg that prices are creeping. I forsee this being a 2 step increase.

Small increase now and hope people aren't too hurt and brand doesn't take too much of a hit and another increase around Sept followed by the good old black friday "discount".

Upping prices by 50% doesn't equal the 125% tariffs so there's more to come.

[TwisT]

when they start charging more than $10 for hardware, I'm hording.

[BeachChicken]

Has anyone actually read the tariff details on sporting equipment? It occurred to me that there may be a way around this with certain skate goods depending on if the final good is assembled or not AND they stick to a blanket rate.

[Blinded]

Bones bearings price is fucked

[Southernmost]

I was looking at ML bearings this week when I saw first that price increase post on IG. Great bearings BTW. They were $10.50 from Skate One on Amazon. They are now $16.98. They are $17.95 on the skateone website. MiniLogo bearings for maybe a decade, have been $10 at bigger shops and 12-14 for smaller skate shops.

Why would you want to buy bearings on Amazon? I get it’s directly from Skate One but Amazon still takes a 20-30% cut and does fuck all for skating. That $10-15 would be much better spent at any skateshop. Do Pals honestly shop on Amazon? I thought collectively we’re all pro small business around here, especially skate shops.

[Sedition]

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I was looking at ML bearings this week when I saw first that price increase post on IG. Great bearings BTW. They were $10.50 from Skate One on Amazon. They are now $16.98. They are $17.95 on the skateone website. MiniLogo bearings for maybe a decade, have been $10 at bigger shops and 12-14 for smaller skate shops.

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Why would you want to buy bearings on Amazon? I get it’s directly from Skate One but Amazon still takes a 20-30% cut and does fuck all for skating. That $10-15 would be much better spent at any skateshop. Do Pals honestly shop on Amazon? I thought collectively we’re all pro small business around here, especially skate shops.

Was chatting with owner of Orchard this week. He told me that Bones upped their MSRP about $6...meanwhile, Skate One is still selling them $1 under the OLD MSRP on their Amazon page. Translation: They don't give a fuck about skate shops.

[Ass]

why are you guys even buying stuff from amazon

[TwisT]

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I was looking at ML bearings this week when I saw first that price increase post on IG. Great bearings BTW. They were $10.50 from Skate One on Amazon. They are now $16.98. They are $17.95 on the skateone website. MiniLogo bearings for maybe a decade, have been $10 at bigger shops and 12-14 for smaller skate shops.

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Why would you want to buy bearings on Amazon? I get it’s directly from Skate One but Amazon still takes a 20-30% cut and does fuck all for skating. That $10-15 would be much better spent at any skateshop. Do Pals honestly shop on Amazon? I thought collectively we’re all pro small business around here, especially skate shops.

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Was chatting with owner of Orchard this week. He told me that Bones upped their MSRP about $6...meanwhile, Skate One is still selling them $1 under the OLD MSRP on their Amazon page. Translation: They don't give a fuck about skate shops.

They come from Tgm, which is a skate shop. And is the same price as buying from their site, however I can use my chase points more easily through Amazon.

But HONESTLY. The whole reason I started looking into this was because they showed up my recommended in the vintage white mini logo packaging with the rounded Powell font. I liked it better than the current greenish brown Minilogo “militant” branding. So I was curious if there was someone on Amazon selling old product or did Minilogo go back to the old branding. TGM also has random vintage products, like currently they have a bunch of fury trucks in small sizes.

[Osage]

Was chatting with owner of Orchard this week. He told me that Bones upped their MSRP about $6...meanwhile, Skate One is still selling them $1 under the OLD MSRP on their Amazon page. Translation: They don't give a fuck about skate shops.

  This isn't true. Skate one doesn't have an Amazon page. Powell Peralta does but they don't sell bearings. There is literally no way to buy Bones bearings from Skate One on Amazon. TGM is still selling them for $1 under old MSRP price on Amazon and so are some stores but if you want to buy them from Skate One directly, they're full MSRP price of $24.95. 

[neonbrown]

Given the proliferation of fake everything on Amazon and eBay, and fake Bones bearings, it's likely that any bearings being sold significantly below MSRP are just knock-offs.

[Sedition]

Given the proliferation of fake everything on Amazon and eBay, and fake Bones bearings, it's likely that any bearings being sold significantly below MSRP are just knock-offs.

Powell has even issued statements about exactly this.

[Osage]

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Given the proliferation of fake everything on Amazon and eBay, and fake Bones bearings, it's likely that any bearings being sold significantly below MSRP are just knock-offs.

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Powell has even issued statements about exactly this.

    I Stopped buying anything on Amazon cause you know, fuck them, but even before that I never bought any skate gear. My other hobby is fishing and you don't buy fishing gear there either because so much of it is fake.

 

[TwisT]

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Given the proliferation of fake everything on Amazon and eBay, and fake Bones bearings, it's likely that any bearings being sold significantly below MSRP are just knock-offs.

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Powell has even issued statements about exactly this.

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    I Stopped buying anything on Amazon cause you know, fuck them, but even before that I never bought any skate gear. My other hobby is fishing and you don't buy fishing gear there either because so much of it is fake.

Eh, it’s not hard to see check the seller before making a purchase. CCS, TGM, skate one, board paradise, stoked ride shop and a few other shops sell through Amazon.

But yeah, I totally understand if you want to avoid them altogether. I like TGM, they’re a physical skate shop and their own website offers Amazon checkout with Amazon.

But anyway, back to tariffs

[BeachChicken]

Ace sells through Amazon I just found out. Funny cuz they try to position themselves as the new core truck brand.

[mrosk8]

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Ace sells through Amazon I just found out. Funny cuz they try to position themselves as the new core truck brand.

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You can buy DLX at zumiez. Skateboarding is a business and capitalism controls business. Core dogma is an illusion perpetuated by the people who believe in it but certain companies do voluntarily follow an ethical guideline and that’s what you should be paying attention to.

This is thee perfect summary of everything

[WideFeet]

Not sure what has been discussed in previous pages, but 2 companies that have been hit by tariffs that I have heard of is Sidewalk Distribution and Opus Footwear. 145% increase.

To ship 1 pair of shoes is $69. Sidewalk isn’t going to do pre-built completes. Not sure how you even keep getting boards if you’re Sidewalk. That increase is basically the cost of a deck.

I’m speculating, but maybe Sidewalk starts going through BBS?

I think it was the Jenkem tariff article, but there was a quote from a shop owner saying that they’re not going to carry a certain shoe brand anymore due to pricing. Anyway know what brand that is?

Edit: Adding this, Skate One prices went up. MSRP is $6-$8 more. 53mm wheels and under MSRP is $48. 54mm and above MSRP is $50. Don’t remember what MSRP was for Flight decks. I want to say it was $105-$110? MSRP is now &119.95.

[WideFeet]

How long have Polar boards cost 73 dollars? I bought 2 for 80 dollars a year ago. They were on sale, but I don't think they were 45% off at the time. Were they?

I suppose it is time to buy wheels, bearings, bushings, an extra set of bearings, and maybe an extra set of trucks.

You came up on a good deal. They’ve been pushing an MSRP of like $75 or more for the last couple years. If you see a Polar deck for $73, that shop has probably got the price down as low as they could or meet a bare minimum profit margin.

[Osage]

  When I noticed yesterday that a lot of people had raised prices on Reds, I ordered a couple sets from TGM for $17.95. Just looked this morning and they're now $24.95. That's something like a 35% increase. I wonder if Bones imported a bunch when Trumps Tariff rate was 34% in early April. If the tariffs stay in place at 145%, this will certainly have to go up again.


   Talked with my friend who runs a fishing tackle shop and he said they're freaking out. They have all the new Spring items like rods and reels for people gearing up for the season but they typically order a lot of lures, line etc... as the season is going depending on what people are buying that year. He said wholesale prices have started to go insane on a lot of things. To the point where some MSRP and MAP prices are over double what they were a few months ago.

[TwisT]

I thought bones wheels were made in America. That’s what it says on google. Maybe a price increase to compensate for the rest of skateone.

This really sucks for opus. They were hanging on. Even if this tariffs shit reverts I think a lot of these smaller brands won’t survive the initial blow

[WoodRat]

I thought bones wheels were made in America. That’s what it says on google. Maybe a price increase to compensate for the rest of skateone.

This really sucks for opus. They were hanging on. Even if this tariffs shit reverts I think a lot of these smaller brands won’t survive the initial blow

Most likely raw materials cost.

[Southernmost]

Looks like Bones Swiss are still $50. They retailed for $55-60 just a couple years ago. One of the only products to come down in price and the quality stayed the same. So if you needed a reason to upgrade now would be the best time. I skated Reds for many years due to the cheap price. But once I got my first pair of Bones Swiss, on a Black Friday sale, I never went back to Reds. I know it’s more than you’re used to spending but it’s worth it.

[Osage]

I thought bones wheels were made in America. That’s what it says on google. Maybe a price increase to compensate for the rest of skateone.

  They are made in America but some of the raw materials/chemicals, the packaging, shrink wrap, stickers etc... all come from China. I would bet that for the cored cruiser wheels, the cores come from China as well. This is one of the main points that Trump gets so wrong. There are very few made in America products where every single part/chemical/do-dad etc... come from America.

[neonbrown]

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I thought bones wheels were made in America. That’s what it says on google. Maybe a price increase to compensate for the rest of skateone.

This really sucks for opus. They were hanging on. Even if this tariffs shit reverts I think a lot of these smaller brands won’t survive the initial blow

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Most likely raw materials cost.

And this will ripple throughout the country, even with fully domestic products. If your imported chemical precursors suddenly cost ~150% more, forcing you and your competition to switch to a domestic supplier, what do you think that domestic supplier is going to do with their prices?

[Chavo]

Given the proliferation of fake everything on Amazon and eBay, and fake Bones bearings, it's likely that any bearings being sold significantly below MSRP are just knock-offs.

If you're not buying Bones Swiss from an authorized dealer, any cheap bearing on eBay or Amazon are probably as good as a skate brand. No skate company makes or designs bearings, including Bones. They even use the same stock rectangular or round tin boxes bundled with 5 cent bearings from Alibaba.

[Jeff Bezos The Antichrist]

I just checked the Primitive site and they still have their 2 for $70 & 3 for $90 mystery deck deal up. Just choose the size and hope you don’t get a Goku fighting SpongeBob graphic

[rocklobster]

I just checked the Primitive site and they still have their 2 for $70 & 3 for $90 mystery deck deal up. Just choose the size and hope you don’t get a Goku fighting SpongeBob graphic

I'd be stoked if I got 3 Primitive decks with this graphic

[rawbertson.]

I just checked the Primitive site and they still have their 2 for $70 & 3 for $90 mystery deck deal up. Just choose the size and hope you don’t get a Goku fighting SpongeBob graphic

those seemingly JUST came back. i am guessing they do this when they are sitting on a lot of old boards. i check it pretty frequently and hadnt see that deal in awhile. they are not BBS though, they are china. only the egg boards are BBS for a long time now im almost 99% sure. i havnet got a bbs popsicle from them in a long time now. their prices are already jacked up though for the new boards so im guessing mystery bundles wont come back or will be more expensive next time possibly.

[Southernmost]

Majority of the Primitive graphics in the mystery box are pretty bad but I’ve only had good things to say about skating them. I think that’s a pretty fair consensus in the gear threads.

Edit after seeing Rawbertsons post.

I’ve only skated their BBS boards so I can’t really say anything for the China decks. Haven’t ordered anything from Primitive in a couple years.