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Hey all,

I have a family member who is a small 5 year old and I was hoping to get her first complete as a Xmas gift. However, I know absolutely nothing about the market for boards for children.

I dont want to end up buying a junky Walmart type board that doesn't roll properly or anything, but I also don't want to buy anything overly large and heavy she won't be able to use.

Just looking for general advice or any brands to avoid really.

Cheers.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2024, 07:42:08 AM »
some friends and i got a birthday present for a friend's 5 year old daughter, we got a deck from a local skater/artist who presses his own boards, and we painted some of her favorite characters/animals on it. we got ace trucks and some cruiser wheels

someone asked me recently if there are any good black friday deals for a skateboard for a child and i pointed them at https://www.zflex.com/collections/street-completes - someone had posted in the sale gear thread here - i got them some spitfire 80hd because i think soft wheels make the experience so much better for a young kid learning to ride around

if i were buying a gift myself for a kid right now, i'd probably do either lucas puig's brand:
https://www.minoskateboards.com/e-shop/
or blast skates:
https://blast-skates.co.uk/pages/kids

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2024, 07:43:37 AM »
Thanks @apbarbs super helpful. Your custom painted deck sounds really sweet too.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2024, 07:56:14 AM »
i just got my kids enjoi completes i think they were like ~$80 each. probably a  bit overkill considering they dont use them much, but they are still good boards, i have debated switching out the wheels and riding one many times to get that 90s popsicle feel.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2024, 08:06:01 AM »
I think every brand has a mini board now a days. Not like the sk8mafia mini. But a mini. My first board was a mini birdhouse. I think I was 10-11 probably. Or even a decent complete from walmart. They've come along way since I started.
We rode 7.5's" and didn't complain.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2024, 08:12:15 AM »
One thing I'd specifically point out is to err on the softer side when it comes to wheels. It's likely gonna be quite some time before beginners need their wheels to slide. But I've seen countless kids lose interest in skating fast because they didn't like how jarring it feels and how much effort it takes to just roll around on harder wheels. Softer wheels will make their first rides much more comfortable.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2024, 08:39:54 AM »
There used to be softtop completed from dwindle that had a yoga mat grip and soft wheels. Bit sure if those are still around but they were probably nice for knee boarding

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2024, 08:43:25 AM »
When my daughter was that age, I got her a zip zinger type cruiser deck. I made sure the trucks could turn under her weight (I'd recommend some small Aces), (one of my pet peeves is seeing kids with boards that they are unable to turn properly) and some softer wheels to get over cracks and crappy ground but still be light and agile... (I think she had both some 55mm 97a Autobahns and also some 55mm Superjuice OJs)

Most importantly I did a bright colorful grip job....

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2024, 10:08:08 AM »
back before covid i bought this little dude i mentored a powell peralta mini complete for under $80. it was decent for a 6 year old.

last year, for a holiday gift for my 3 year old nephew, I cleaned up an old wide deck- painted, gripped, etc, and gave him just a deck to get used to standing on it. maybe we'll throw some trucks on it in the future.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2024, 10:28:04 AM »
back before covid i bought this little dude i mentored a powell peralta mini complete for under $80. it was decent for a 6 year old.

last year, for a holiday gift for my 3 year old nephew, I cleaned up an old wide deck- painted, gripped, etc, and gave him just a deck to get used to standing on it. maybe we'll throw some trucks on it in the future.
The mini logo completes are pretty good for $50. Mini logo trucks come with soft bushings good soft wheels and mini sizes. Deck is birch I think but not bad for $50

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2024, 11:53:48 AM »
Deck and grip tape doesn’t matter so much, but get:

- good namebrand trucks so they turn well (Thunder, Indy, Venture, Slappy, Ace, even mini logo if cheap)
- big soft wheels so they roll over everything and won’t get stuck in cracks (Any wheel less than 80a durometer hardness, and larger than 56mm diameter)
- and decent bearings so the wheels actually roll: Bones reds, Powell mini logo, Bronson (lots of Black Friday deals right now)

I have a 4, 6, and 10 year old. And having a skateboard that turns and rolls well makes their skating much more fun.

*if you have a local skateshop (NOT ZUMIEZ) go talk to shop employees and they can help you out.

If you buy online, use shoplurker.com to buy from a real skate shop.

There’s also lots of Black Friday deals going on, so you can find good gear for a deal. Check out this thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=59883.15240

Total gear needed:
-wheels
-bearings
-trucks
-hardware (nuts and bolts that hold deck to trucks)
-deck
-griptape

Thanks y’all. It’s been fun.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2024, 12:29:55 PM »
Mini deck with appropriate sized trucks, softest conical bushings you can find, trucks as loose as you can get them(maybe cut the top bushing since little kids weigh nothing), some normal shaped cruiser wheel’s probably in 56-53mm.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2024, 02:34:53 PM »
I set up one of these for my son:

https://primewood.la/products/prime-l01890-true-mini-deck-27-625-x-7-25-popsicle?_pos=2&_psq=Mini&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Ace 11 classics and Spitfire 80HD’s with Reds.

Everyone else in the thread is right about piquing interest with some flare that speaks to the child. My son is way more stoked the deck and grip are his favorite color than the quality of the gear.


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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2024, 03:04:25 PM »
Hey all,

I have a family member who is a small 5 year old and I was hoping to get her first complete as a Xmas gift. However, I know absolutely nothing about the market for boards for children.

I dont want to end up buying a junky Walmart type board that doesn't roll properly or anything, but I also don't want to buy anything overly large and heavy she won't be able to use.

Just looking for general advice or any brands to avoid really.

Cheers.



From a shop perspective, the two main things are budget and ability.  If it is a first time skater, ability is not an issue and you are looking more at budget than anything else.

The only other thing to note is the look of a product, as a lot of younger kids (both boys and girls) want something that looks good to them, so a board that is often a little more fun could be way more likely to be used more than once or twice, as well as looked after and keeps them interested.

One common thing is repainting any board for them, or at the very least a graphic that is in certain colours or whatever they want, but even doing a grip paint job could liven up their interest as well.

Right now there are a lot, and I mean A LOT of budget completes that are all roughly about the same overall feel, use, softer bushings, softer wheels, similar everything really, but price can vary greatly, as can the graphics.

Element are clearing out a ton of completes that skate well for kids, some female interest graphics and are pretty good.  I have a lot of them for kids to use at the indoor park / shop and they hold up well, can be easily upgraded and are great for the price.

Other brands are usually more expensive, but again, that comes down to budget and what you are looking for.


Here in Australia, I can get completes very cheaply from retail shops or pass on links for people, but for USA or elsewhere in the world, it is just down to whatever you can find in any given place.


A couple of other things to note from my own experiences:

You don't need to get the no grip boards unless they are still only crawling, so if they are standing up, a normal grip board is better.  If you don't want it quite so grippy, just use a grip offcut and dust the grip back a bit more so they don't get cut up at all.

Getting them a mini board is only good if they are an absolute midget, so for any small bodies that are already standing well enough and have not skated ever before, a normal 7.75 to 8.0 size board will work well enough, over a 7.0 or smaller type of setup, for most cases.

If the board still is not turning enough for the child, take out the bottom washer rather than replace parts on the board - it is easy to put back in and costs nothing, but makes the already soft bushings so much easier to turn on as rolling and just leaning to turn is often easier than lifting to tic tac.

Tightening down the wheel nuts at first will slow the board down a bit and help the beginner stay on the board with less possibility of slipping out.  As they start to learn to balance and want to go faster, loosen the nuts off again to normal, just a little play, etc.

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2024, 03:23:24 PM »
Loads of good info thanks everyone. Going to have a browse online and head over ti the local when I'm next in town

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2024, 07:42:05 PM »
Dwindle (Almost / Darkstar / Enjoi / Blind) complete, they do 7.25 - 7.5 which are small enough for kids.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/searchresults.html?filter_cat=BRCOMPLETE&filter_type=Complete_Decks#filter_cat=BRCOMPLETE&filter_type=Complete_Decks&width_str%5B%5D=6.9%22%20and%20Under&width_str%5B%5D=7%22-7.4%22&width_str%5B%5D=7.5%22-7.6%22&opt_page=1&opt_sort=alphaAtoZ&opt_perpage=20

I know the instinct is to go big brand name for trucks and wheels but kids have fleeting interest. I've seen too many parents buy $200 setups for their kids only for them to sit in storage after 1 session.
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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2024, 11:12:40 PM »
Lucas Puig and family have Mino Skateboards, with cork grip to not wreck the kids hands/knees etc:

https://www.minoskateboards.com/en/home-3/

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2024, 12:51:00 AM »
my suggestion:
real silver oval deck (7.75 with a 12.75 wb or something like that)
mini-logo 7.63 or 8.0 trucks+wheels set (they sell it as a package deal)
1/8 risers
pads and helmet

don't get too short of a board, if it's their first setup you don't need to make the wheelbase optimal for 360 flips, they'll have to learn how to stand on it first and a longer board is more stable. little children grow super fast and their first board is definitely going to last at least a year or two. they'll be 20-30 cms taller by that time probably and they'll be able to ollie and kickflip it without an issue if they take the time to learn it. this real short 7.75 is a great shape for kids, it was my default for a kid setup when i worked at a shop and i've seen them kids later and i could tell that it worked. mini-logos turn nice and are cheap enough. if you wanna be extra get the soft sliders or dragons for wheels, but the mini-logo 90s they put on the 7.63 trucks should be fine too. hard wheels are a no go for little kids in my eyes, they need it as easy as can be to stick with it, one bad slam can be a dealbreaker for them. don't go with cruiser wheels though, super soft is ok as long as the shape is not too fat, big cruiser wheels are heavy as fuck.

also in contrast to what some others said i think a good deck is crucial here. kids' boards tend to shoot out a lot, they are just starting to learn to control it. if you get a birch deck (like in a prebuilt complete) it will be all chipped up in a short time. i think it's worth paying a little more for the deck and getting that wheel/truck combo to save money, not the other way around.


Getting them a mini board is only good if they are an absolute midget, so for any small bodies that are already standing well enough and have not skated ever before, a normal 7.75 to 8.0 size board will work well enough, over a 7.0 or smaller type of setup, for most cases.


a 5 year old is like 110-120cm tall, a standard 31.5 deck is about 80cms long, they will be barely able to turn on something like that. while i would also recommend something longer than those full mini boards with 10.5 inch wheelbases, a regular 14 inch is still too much.
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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2024, 06:01:58 AM »
Got my daughter her first board at 3. There’s a few brands with kid friendly graphics or get a blank 7.6 or under and some paint pens or stickers and let her do her own “art”. Go with hollow trucks (personally my daughter loved Indy’s as they were and I quote her “less weird”) and softer wheels. A lighter grip too not ruin as many shoes (my daughter loved Grizzly for the bear cut out or bro style for the thumbs up)

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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2024, 06:23:23 AM »
Lucas Puig and family have Mino Skateboards, with cork grip to not wreck the kids hands/knees etc:

https://www.minoskateboards.com/en/home-3/

In addition to Mino, there's a company from HLC called "tricks" that makes cool scaled down boards, that are similar shaped and sized

https://skatemenu.com/pages/tricks-skateboards

globe is also on the band wagon

https://globebrand.com/search?q=kids


I just had a kid, Im gonna get one of these next year https://www.ookkie.com/products/ookkie-skateboard?srsltid=AfmBOoqWcPgg7P4q6HwaypQQKsZE6ro6FebEicqf0csLqUDExGC4hA7h before I transition them to a regular board.,

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2024, 02:11:33 AM »
For a girl that age you'd be best getting them a complete with a deck sized around 7.3" - 7.6". You could get a 7.75" deck and build it up but it will be too big for them to really learn to skate properly, although they would grow into it. A legit 7.75" with 5.0 Mag Lights and Spitfire Lil' Smokies would be pretty rad.

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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2024, 03:34:09 AM »
I made a pink Blockhead Streetstyle with pink slimeballs and old Indy’s for myself but my daughter had commandeered it. It’s a sick board, as it’s wide but flat and no nose with a shortish wheelbase so it’s easy for her to manoeuvre

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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2024, 04:19:37 AM »
I started my two youngest on DGK mini completes. After watching how many thousands they give away to kids to get them interested in skateboarding, I felt it was a cause worth supporting. It also gave the dust in my garage place to settle. :)

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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2024, 08:50:46 PM »
I started my kid on a tiny blind complete with felt grip, was pretty average and didn't give him much confidence. So put together a setup of parts on sale 7.75 almost with indys, bones and spitfire f4s. Prob overkill but its a lot better to learn on even if a but big for now

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2024, 08:55:48 PM »
i just got my kids enjoi completes i think they were like ~$80 each. probably a  bit overkill considering they dont use them much, but they are still good boards, i have debated switching out the wheels and riding one many times to get that 90s popsicle feel.

Same.  I think I got my son an enjoi 7.25 like 6 years ago. Been sitting in the garage aside from the handful of times hes cruised a park with me

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2024, 04:57:10 PM »
Tons over the years.

Rn this second id get a Metal Ben Rayborn Shape with some venture V8s
That way you can stink the wheel base way way down to 13.1.  way as you will have adjustable truck holes and adjustable base plates

The board is an 875 but you could definitely put 5.2’s on it because it’s so tapered at both ends. It’s really like a 825 with a 13.9 or a 13.4 inch wheelbase.

I would buy some bullshit ass wheels  and I’d get a loose truck conversion kit. That conversion kit helped out big time because the only truck sick at loose enough for four-year-olds are usually dark star from Kmart.

Have to do decent bearings. I’d go raws. So you can tell them about why people popped their shields. That way they’re getting culture day one   The myth of tightening someone’s bolt so the wheels don’t roll or anything like that is hazardous fora beginner. Yo you want them to immediately feel exactly what the skateboard is always gonna feel like so they can get used to it.

If the kid don’t take to it you’ll have ill schwag on ice. And
Just the venture, V8 would be a conversation piece at any spot or park

As a kid I had the worst gear. It is a testament to my dagger ism and persistence, cause I ran used shit till like age 11 and 80s skaters was taking care of me. I competed in a street contest on a pig to win the Rocco aboard with the Winnie the Pooh head stuck in the jar graphic. My rob Rosskopp had been destroyed or taken away by my father. Follow your instincts. I definitely go for wheelbase shrinking trucks.
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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2024, 06:34:43 PM »
Low trucks

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2024, 08:19:42 PM »
I recently got my niece a meow skateboards complete that has soft grip and wheels. Her street is kinda rough so I wish the wheels were a little bigger, but this felt like a great option so she could butt board or something and not deal with regular grip. Plus I like everything Meow has going on for female skateboarding so felt like a win supporting them.

https://meowskateboards.com/products/big-cat-white-complete-7-00-soft-top

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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2024, 12:49:29 PM »
my niece, nephew and son all got little cruiser boards cut down from my old decks......I sanded off what was left of the graphics and stained the boards yellow. If you can find an old penny board repurpose the trucks and wheels, or mini logo do a undercarriage set - trucks, wheels & bearings that work fine.......chuck on some stickers and you are all set! 

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Re: Anyone got any experience buying a setup for a young child (4-5 years)
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2024, 03:02:53 PM »
I got my 8 year old nephew an Anti Hero because why shouldn’t he be that cool?