2025 unpopular opinion thread

[FrAnKenFrEd]

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People who suck usually skate for longer. If your 30 or 40 and can't skate tranny that just means you have something to learn, whereas when you get good with everything it's easier to move on to other things

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That's not how any of this works.

I kind of agree. I always sucked and I still skate. Many of my friends don't. My theory is, they struggle losing what skills they had. Whereas I had little to lose. A life of pleasant mediocrity might be more fulfilling...

[j....soy.....]

I’m old and pretty much a hack and what I’ve seen is there are some really good skaters that wanted to do it.. they did it..and they aren’t about to accept anything less…..so they are out. Then there are people like myself that just genuinely enjoy skating the way we skate and are more or less just happy to be there.  I think this is pretty common in a lot of things….most pro athletes don’t leisurely keep playing the same sport…..skateboarding is the culture, the community and the activity….everyone puts a different emphasis on what they get out of it, and it changes….

[FrAnKenFrEd]

I’m old and pretty much a hack and what I’ve seen is there are some really good skaters that wanted to do it.. they did it..and they aren’t about to accept anything less…..so they are out. Then there are people like myself that just genuinely enjoy skating the way we skate and are more or less just happy to be there.  I think this is pretty common in a lot of things….most pro athletes don’t leisurely keep playing the same sport…..skateboarding is the culture, the community and the activity….everyone puts a different emphasis on what they get out of it, and it changes….

I'm happy just rolling. Hope to roll as long as I can walk. Be rad to get a slappy or two at 70 though.

[fakiefs180]

I thought I was becoming too old with 34.. I know. Had a nasty slam last friday that still hurts but I also did an Ollie onto a knee high ledge. So yeah. I hope I can still Ollie up a curb when I am 50. Or 60. Or maybe even 70. I would put myself also in the mediocre category but that's okay. Skateboarding has always been difficult.

Oh wait we are in the unpopular opinion thread. I think Pop shuv it's are mad hard. Especially on banks, down gaps or anywhere else that isn't straight flatground. Wasn't there a lunatic a long time ago that did a Pop shuv down Wallenberg 4? That's incredible to me.

[Kielwasser]

I’m old and pretty much a hack and what I’ve seen is there are some really good skaters that wanted to do it.. they did it..and they aren’t about to accept anything less…..so they are out. Then there are people like myself that just genuinely enjoy skating the way we skate and are more or less just happy to be there.  I think this is pretty common in a lot of things….most pro athletes don’t leisurely keep playing the same sport…..skateboarding is the culture, the community and the activity….everyone puts a different emphasis on what they get out of it, and it changes….

This isnt an unpopular opinion on here surely. Who actually cares about their "level" still? I think it's actually nice and convenient that you wind down with age. If I had to do the things I did in my mid 20s to get stoke and adrenaline, I'd be in hospital and over skateboarding permanently. 

[j....soy.....]

Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

[Sedition]

I’m old and pretty much a hack and what I’ve seen is there are some really good skaters that wanted to do it.. they did it..and they aren’t about to accept anything less…..so they are out. Then there are people like myself that just genuinely enjoy skating the way we skate and are more or less just happy to be there.  I think this is pretty common in a lot of things….most pro athletes don’t leisurely keep playing the same sport…..skateboarding is the culture, the community and the activity….everyone puts a different emphasis on what they get out of it, and it changes….

SOLID post. Yeah, we are getting way off topic for this thread, but here is something akin to the above I wrote on a facebook group some time ago:

What is skateboarding? It’s an experience. A subjective experience. What follows from that? Simple. No one owes anyone any kind of justification or explanation about what equipment they use, how they skate, why they skate, what they skate, what they wear/don’t wear while skating, or why they do ANY of those things. Skateboarding is a mirror that reflects the intentions of the skater. It is what ever they want it to be—Olympic aspiration to social insurrection. Anyone who dogmatically says what skateboarding is, or is not, is only seeking to justify their own insecurities or manufactured standards. No one’s Stoke has to meet anyone else’s standard or criteria. There is a path out there. It’s always been there. It always will be. It’s your path, and yours alone. Go follow it to what ever end it takes you…just try to have some fun along the way.

[Benicio El Toro]

I have a disdain for Nike, nb, Adidas and can't stand how popular their shoes are. I have no problem with people taking their money, my problem is us giving them our money. NGL I skated the sb when they first came out so it's been a long while but they can't be that much better than anything else. Nothing a little super glue and insoles won't solve. Kook away

[Sedition]

I have a disdain for Nike, nb, Adidas and can't stand how popular their shoes are. I have no problem with people taking their money, my problem is us giving them our money. NGL I skated the sb when they first came out so it's been a long while but they can't be that much better than anything else. Nothing a little super glue and insoles won't solve. Kook away

With you. 👊

[spooky electric]

Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

[Coffee]

I thought I was becoming too old with 34.. I know. Had a nasty slam last friday that still hurts but I also did an Ollie onto a knee high ledge. So yeah. I hope I can still Ollie up a curb when I am 50. Or 60. Or maybe even 70. I would put myself also in the mediocre category but that's okay. Skateboarding has always been difficult.

Oh wait we are in the unpopular opinion thread. I think Pop shuv it's are mad hard. Especially on banks, down gaps or anywhere else that isn't straight flatground. Wasn't there a lunatic a long time ago that did a Pop shuv down Wallenberg 4? That's incredible to me.

Steve Nesser. I think it was in a Birdhouse video.

[ferguu]

I thought I was becoming too old with 34.. I know. Had a nasty slam last friday that still hurts but I also did an Ollie onto a knee high ledge. So yeah. I hope I can still Ollie up a curb when I am 50. Or 60. Or maybe even 70. I would put myself also in the mediocre category but that's okay. Skateboarding has always been difficult.

Oh wait we are in the unpopular opinion thread. I think Pop shuv it's are mad hard. Especially on banks, down gaps or anywhere else that isn't straight flatground. Wasn't there a lunatic a long time ago that did a Pop shuv down Wallenberg 4? That's incredible to me.

Seems like when everyone first starts they have like a first peak where they're cracked at pop shuvs. Then they learn other cooler stuff and suddenly they lose the pop shuv cuz they can treflip. Anyone else notice this? Just me..? OK...

Also TJ pop shuv D7 has gotta be the best pop shuv on film.

[spooky electric]

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I thought I was becoming too old with 34.. I know. Had a nasty slam last friday that still hurts but I also did an Ollie onto a knee high ledge. So yeah. I hope I can still Ollie up a curb when I am 50. Or 60. Or maybe even 70. I would put myself also in the mediocre category but that's okay. Skateboarding has always been difficult.

Oh wait we are in the unpopular opinion thread. I think Pop shuv it's are mad hard. Especially on banks, down gaps or anywhere else that isn't straight flatground. Wasn't there a lunatic a long time ago that did a Pop shuv down Wallenberg 4? That's incredible to me.

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Seems like when everyone first starts they have like a first peak where they're cracked at pop shuvs. Then they learn other cooler stuff and suddenly they lose the pop shuv cuz they can treflip. Anyone else notice this? Just me..? OK...

definitely. i had ripping pop shove its as a young kid. i relearnt them as an actual trick in the arsenal a few years ago. when you get comfy doing pop shove its over like funbox, bank to bank type things they're a great feeling trick - you can suck them up so high and get 'em kind of boned.

[rolling is good]

I have a disdain for Nike, nb, Adidas and can't stand how popular their shoes are.

Every time a product from a non skate brand is bought skateboard culture dies a little more.
Of course skaters are responsible but the lawless aggressivity of companies is also to blame.
The way Nike and Adidas started with a little team of raw street skaters to gain legitimacy, then flooded the market, wiping out most other brands, says how far they're willing to go to make money.
Sports brands are garbage even outside skating, but I hate sports and never thought of skating as one, I would never have started it otherwise.

[Slimeone]

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Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

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i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

Some coping really gets sticky, especially if it's rained and it gets a bit rusty. A bit of wax does wonders. Yes you can just wax your own trucks but it basically transfers the wax to the coping anyway so it's the same. I get that people are worried about slipping their wheels out or whatever but it's usually guys who aren't skating hard enough to be affected that are complaining.

[jorge]

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Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

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i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

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Some coping really gets sticky, especially if it's rained and it gets a bit rusty. A bit of wax does wonders. Yes you can just wax your own trucks but it basically transfers the wax to the coping anyway so it's the same. I get that people are worried about slipping their wheels out or whatever but it's usually guys who aren't skating hard enough to be affected that are complaining.

Hard no on waxing the coping, not trying to die on a lipslide.  Yes you can just go faster to do 50-50s on the mini.  Ledges are fair game.

[SmashtheState]

I'd like to believe there's genuine concerns for those with mental illness as well suicide ideations, I do follow John Rattray as well as the Ben Raemers foundation/feeling scene.

What gives me pause and reluctance towards asking for help or reaching out (friends or skate buddies) is the same as tagging along with at different spots.  You know a friend of a friend and are invited but feel less included whenever it's your time to shine.

Maybe it's my tism that's showing,  I'm awkward as shit whenever I just lurk about with the gang. The solidarity that used to be for me feels lost, and rightfully so maybe the same things don't make me feel stoked anymore and I'd rather skate alone then pissing about.

[devils acrobat]

 

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I thought I was becoming too old with 34.. I know. Had a nasty slam last friday that still hurts but I also did an Ollie onto a knee high ledge. So yeah. I hope I can still Ollie up a curb when I am 50. Or 60. Or maybe even 70. I would put myself also in the mediocre category but that's okay. Skateboarding has always been difficult.

Oh wait we are in the unpopular opinion thread. I think Pop shuv it's are mad hard. Especially on banks, down gaps or anywhere else that isn't straight flatground. Wasn't there a lunatic a long time ago that did a Pop shuv down Wallenberg 4? That's incredible to me.

[close]

Seems like when everyone first starts they have like a first peak where they're cracked at pop shuvs. Then they learn other cooler stuff and suddenly they lose the pop shuv cuz they can treflip. Anyone else notice this? Just me..? OK...

[close]

definitely. i had ripping pop shove its as a young kid. i relearnt them as an actual trick in the arsenal a few years ago. when you get comfy doing pop shove its over like funbox, bank to bank type things they're a great feeling trick - you can suck them up so high and get 'em kind of boned.

I have a mean pop shuv but can barely tre flip so you may be onto something

[Willie]

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Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

[close]

i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

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Some coping really gets sticky, especially if it's rained and it gets a bit rusty. A bit of wax does wonders. Yes you can just wax your own trucks but it basically transfers the wax to the coping anyway so it's the same. I get that people are worried about slipping their wheels out or whatever but it's usually guys who aren't skating hard enough to be affected that are complaining.

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Hard no on waxing the coping, not trying to die on a lipslide.  Yes you can just go faster to do 50-50s on the mini.  Ledges are fair game.

That rust comes off with a few grinds. Wax on coping is awful. I’ve eaten shit on fakie rocks and disasters and stuff because you slip upwards as you go down. Sometimes a little friction is good.

[Texas_Tone]

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Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

[close]

i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

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Some coping really gets sticky, especially if it's rained and it gets a bit rusty. A bit of wax does wonders. Yes you can just wax your own trucks but it basically transfers the wax to the coping anyway so it's the same. I get that people are worried about slipping their wheels out or whatever but it's usually guys who aren't skating hard enough to be affected that are complaining.

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Hard no on waxing the coping, not trying to die on a lipslide.  Yes you can just go faster to do 50-50s on the mini.  Ledges are fair game.

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That rust comes off with a few grinds. Wax on coping is awful. I’ve eaten shit on fakie rocks and disasters and stuff because you slip upwards as you go down. Sometimes a little friction is good.

https://youtube.com/shorts/isvQEjMowwY

[Tuna]

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Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

[close]

i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

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Some coping really gets sticky, especially if it's rained and it gets a bit rusty. A bit of wax does wonders. Yes you can just wax your own trucks but it basically transfers the wax to the coping anyway so it's the same. I get that people are worried about slipping their wheels out or whatever but it's usually guys who aren't skating hard enough to be affected that are complaining.

[close]

Hard no on waxing the coping, not trying to die on a lipslide.  Yes you can just go faster to do 50-50s on the mini.  Ledges are fair game.

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That rust comes off with a few grinds. Wax on coping is awful. I’ve eaten shit on fakie rocks and disasters and stuff because you slip upwards as you go down. Sometimes a little friction is good.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/isvQEjMowwY

Hahahaha is that Auby?

[Cuban_Lynx]

Blind bags are played out and they need to stop.

God, Malto got one now.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPYNizviD0v/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MWxqc3Y3M203Y3JuYg==

[Kielwasser]

I have a disdain for Nike, nb, Adidas and can't stand how popular their shoes are. I have no problem with people taking their money, my problem is us giving them our money. NGL I skated the sb when they first came out so it's been a long while but they can't be that much better than anything else. Nothing a little super glue and insoles won't solve. Kook away

Agreed but NB in particular are an actual step up in terms of fit and support that I've never ever had anywhere else. Which sucks because them and Adidas really take the cake when it comes to the whackest looking skateshoes in the biz.

[pop idiot]

Wax: the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

I find the opposite to be true. The "just skate faster" skater is only annoying when they don't. The "compensate for lack of speed with wax" skater is always annoying and usually not very good.

[c-dock]

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I have a disdain for Nike, nb, Adidas and can't stand how popular their shoes are. I have no problem with people taking their money, my problem is us giving them our money. NGL I skated the sb when they first came out so it's been a long while but they can't be that much better than anything else. Nothing a little super glue and insoles won't solve. Kook away

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Agreed but NB in particular are an actual step up in terms of fit and support that I've never ever had anywhere else. Which sucks because them and Adidas really take the cake when it comes to the whackest looking skateshoes in the biz.

I third this sentiment. To go to the extreme, I don't care how comfortable, durable, or ergonomically perfect the shoes are, I will never skate something that looks like a running shoe with a big ass N on the side.

[Boomerforums]

I skate solely running shoes cause skate shoes are hideous and needing a flat sole to skate is a myth

Maybe if your a beginner or something but it really doesn't matter

I'm not gonna say my favorite shoes to skate cause swag stealers but they have a indent in the middle of the sole and it's fine

Only landing flip trips can it get a little awkward but I don't flip my shit like that

[Pbn_jake]

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Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

[close]

i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

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Some coping really gets sticky, especially if it's rained and it gets a bit rusty. A bit of wax does wonders. Yes you can just wax your own trucks but it basically transfers the wax to the coping anyway so it's the same. I get that people are worried about slipping their wheels out or whatever but it's usually guys who aren't skating hard enough to be affected that are complaining.

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Hard no on waxing the coping, not trying to die on a lipslide.  Yes you can just go faster to do 50-50s on the mini.  Ledges are fair game.

Have legit been going full speed and brought to a halt on some sticky coping that was on a metal prefab. Doesn’t happen often but some ramps need that shit on the coping

[polerbear]

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I skate solely running shoes cause skate shoes are hideous and needing a flat sole to skate is a myth

Maybe if your a beginner or something but it really doesn't matter

I'm not gonna say my favorite shoes to skate cause swag stealers but they have a indent in the middle of the sole and it's fine

Only landing flip trips can it get a little awkward but I don't flip my shit like that

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“Swag stealers” says the guy doing the most trendy shit at the moment

Are things rough at home/the trailerpark right now?

[Switch360flip]

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I have a disdain for Nike, nb, Adidas and can't stand how popular their shoes are. I have no problem with people taking their money, my problem is us giving them our money. NGL I skated the sb when they first came out so it's been a long while but they can't be that much better than anything else. Nothing a little super glue and insoles won't solve. Kook away

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Agreed but NB in particular are an actual step up in terms of fit and support that I've never ever had anywhere else. Which sucks because them and Adidas really take the cake when it comes to the whackest looking skateshoes in the biz.

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I third this sentiment. To go to the extreme, I don't care how comfortable, durable, or ergonomically perfect the shoes are, I will never skate something that looks like a running shoe with a big ass N on the side.

You aren’t missing much. I’ve tried a few NBs now and they all are terrible. They’re probably great if you have extremely narrow feet but I shouldn’t need a shoehorn to wear my shoes correctly. They never feel like they break in either

[Slimeone]

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Ok back to the matter at hand here…..I prolly post this every year but my opinion is evolving:

Wax: 1) single discreet line when necessary on coping is now officially ok 2) everywhere else if you can’t handle the wax, it’s your problem 3) the first guy who says : ‘just skate faster’ is usually the first guy to never hit it…..

[close]

i spent so much of my life thinking wax was illegal because of older dudes that i look back on now and realise none of them could skate ledges or rails anyway. i got absolutely pumped a few times as youth "just go faster"ing on objects which were truly ungrindable without wax. also did not understand how people were noseblunting ledges. i thought i would never be able to do it, it was unfathomable.

i support wax usage, but i do believe it's worth working up incrementally to find a sweet spot. some people just lather past the point straight up and i still think that's obnoxious.

what are people waxing the coping for though? that is genuinely unnecessary.

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Some coping really gets sticky, especially if it's rained and it gets a bit rusty. A bit of wax does wonders. Yes you can just wax your own trucks but it basically transfers the wax to the coping anyway so it's the same. I get that people are worried about slipping their wheels out or whatever but it's usually guys who aren't skating hard enough to be affected that are complaining.

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Hard no on waxing the coping, not trying to die on a lipslide.  Yes you can just go faster to do 50-50s on the mini.  Ledges are fair game.

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That rust comes off with a few grinds. Wax on coping is awful. I’ve eaten shit on fakie rocks and disasters and stuff because you slip upwards as you go down. Sometimes a little friction is good.

Since this is the unpopular opinion thread - any issues with zooting out due to waxxy coping could easily be corrected with proper technique!