2025 unpopular opinion thread

[Sloppy Krooks]

Fuck it. ima just say it:
Skating a Heroin deck in 2025 feels icky, like irl 4chan dudes hoarding Pokémon cards or collecting Funko Pops. I say this because even though I fuck heavy with Heroin, the Instagram is literally just “look at my setup” porn. Do any of these people actually ride the fucking boards? Why am I looking at a wall covered in 8 different fucking egg decks on a Insta reel? When did did we start collecting readily available skateboards and treat them like PSA graded collectables instead of skating them? Like yeah, deck collecting always been a thing, but at this point I just want to see Craig Questions do a fat boneless or Dead Dave do something interesting, as opposed to a bunch of divorced dads jerking their pickles on the Heroin Insta. That said, I’m not out here saying all of Heroin is wack now. Did see a kid with a curb crusher deck the other day, and he was pretty chill.

I follow Heroin too, and I was confused, I didn’t get the same impression at all.

There were a bunch of shots of boards on walls, but they look like shops that got their Heroin orders in,, tagged the brand, and Fos gave them a shout.
Nothing weird to me.

Although yeah, I’d like to see more riding too, especially Swampy and Nolan.

But I think they’re finishing up a video, that’s why there aren’t too many clips.

[okdokeydirtbite]

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for better or worse gh has filled the void of the phelper
a polarising, funny personality whose opinions generally echo that of the core community

in 2025 it only makes sense that this is in the form of a youtuber/twitch streamer

also, i can almost guarantee the old guys he pisses off these days would have held  phelps word as gospel in the hellride era , which i think  only adds to my point .. in 10 years gh devotees gonna be doing the same to whoevers next up - provided they survive the groyper wars of 2028

future is now old guys

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Joa having the same cred as Phelps is laughable...Also grew up in the 90s and am not a fan of his videos but don't care for him, what either way he ends up in skateboarding, the scene has gotten so big that I can enjoy it without ever interacting with any of his content.    The only people who i think deserve to be punched in the face are literal nazi's like Nick Fuentes and Richard spencer.  Joa or any opinions like his does not deserve any physical violence

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If anything Joa has more. Phelps didn't really matter to anyone until KOTR, and even then I don't think people really cared about his opinions that much. Like, go fast and do scary stuff was a thing before Phelps came along.

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phelps edited Thrasher for 26 years you fucking person.

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Those 26 years in which Phelps ran Thrasher has influenced skateboarding, good or bad, far beyond anything else. Phelps himself didn't really put himself out there as the face of Thrasher until later in that career, but Thrasher dictated what was cool or not in skateboarding for decades, and Phelps dictated what was in Thrasher. Almost every trend you can think of became one because that's what Thrasher decided to elevate.

I don't listen to Gifted Hater, I don't do the Nine Club or the Bunt either, just not my thing, but the idea any Youtuber in a sea of youtubers has even a fraction of the cultural impact that the primary skateboarding magazine for 40 years, and the last standing for the last few years, has had, seems ridiculous.

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I disagree that Thrasher was dictating what was cool in skating back in the day. I think Transworld was bigger in the 80s, and Big Brother was more influential in the 90s. Thrasher was in this weird old guy space in the 90s, trying to figure out how to cover what was happening while sticking to their hash roots. Their coverage of pool skaters and such was just not the thing that people cared about. Even SOTY was kind of a thing like- oh cool, good for them. It wasn't the big deal it is now.

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I was hanging out with 2 well regarded mid 80-mid 90s pro’s this past summer in California and conversation about Phelps came up. One dude liked him, the other said he wasn’t a particularly nice guy. Both stated, unequivocally, that more than anyone, Phelps decided what was going to be seen in skateboarding. Phelps doesnt like your city, it wont be covered. Phelps doesnt like you, you wont be covered.

Im 40, so not some old heshed out bowl dog Phelps worshipper, and slap mag was the best mag, but to say that Transworld and Big Brother were better or more influential isn’t accurate. Maybe for you, in your town, but that’s definitely an unpopular opinion. Shit, a month or 2 ago, i asked one of my very good friends, east coast dude early 50s dude, been skating since the 80s, in the industry since 97, about skate mag hierarchy in his lifetime and it went like “big brother had a cool early phase, but it’s always been Thrasher. I likes slap the best, the whole SF vibe, but Thrasher had dictated what happens in skateboarding. Transworld was like a Christian style skate mag.”

So its anecdotal and opinion based, but I haven’t encountered anyone sharing your opinion in the wild

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Same thing but replace Thrasher with Transworld. When it came to coverage and videos they put out, Thrasher definitely got the B-sides. Every great skater (even ones Phelps didn’t like) was putting their best stuff towards anything but Thrasher.

If you wanna talk about which mag has been more influential

google image search “Celebs wearing Thrasher”

Then google image search “Celebs wearing Transworld” lol

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[formula420]

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That’s exactly the point. People who know nothing about skating buy thrasher tees cuz it’s a cool logo. Has nothing to do with Phelps, they just happened to have a good font. The mag stayed afloat because of that, not because of what is actually printed inside.

Just like how ill bet Kim kardashion didn’t watch endless beauty

[Sandwich Marty]

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for better or worse gh has filled the void of the phelper
a polarising, funny personality whose opinions generally echo that of the core community

in 2025 it only makes sense that this is in the form of a youtuber/twitch streamer

also, i can almost guarantee the old guys he pisses off these days would have held  phelps word as gospel in the hellride era , which i think  only adds to my point .. in 10 years gh devotees gonna be doing the same to whoevers next up - provided they survive the groyper wars of 2028

future is now old guys

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Joa having the same cred as Phelps is laughable...Also grew up in the 90s and am not a fan of his videos but don't care for him, what either way he ends up in skateboarding, the scene has gotten so big that I can enjoy it without ever interacting with any of his content.    The only people who i think deserve to be punched in the face are literal nazi's like Nick Fuentes and Richard spencer.  Joa or any opinions like his does not deserve any physical violence

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If anything Joa has more. Phelps didn't really matter to anyone until KOTR, and even then I don't think people really cared about his opinions that much. Like, go fast and do scary stuff was a thing before Phelps came along.

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phelps edited Thrasher for 26 years you fucking person.

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Those 26 years in which Phelps ran Thrasher has influenced skateboarding, good or bad, far beyond anything else. Phelps himself didn't really put himself out there as the face of Thrasher until later in that career, but Thrasher dictated what was cool or not in skateboarding for decades, and Phelps dictated what was in Thrasher. Almost every trend you can think of became one because that's what Thrasher decided to elevate.

I don't listen to Gifted Hater, I don't do the Nine Club or the Bunt either, just not my thing, but the idea any Youtuber in a sea of youtubers has even a fraction of the cultural impact that the primary skateboarding magazine for 40 years, and the last standing for the last few years, has had, seems ridiculous.

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I disagree that Thrasher was dictating what was cool in skating back in the day. I think Transworld was bigger in the 80s, and Big Brother was more influential in the 90s. Thrasher was in this weird old guy space in the 90s, trying to figure out how to cover what was happening while sticking to their hash roots. Their coverage of pool skaters and such was just not the thing that people cared about. Even SOTY was kind of a thing like- oh cool, good for them. It wasn't the big deal it is now.

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I was hanging out with 2 well regarded mid 80-mid 90s pro’s this past summer in California and conversation about Phelps came up. One dude liked him, the other said he wasn’t a particularly nice guy. Both stated, unequivocally, that more than anyone, Phelps decided what was going to be seen in skateboarding. Phelps doesnt like your city, it wont be covered. Phelps doesnt like you, you wont be covered.

Im 40, so not some old heshed out bowl dog Phelps worshipper, and slap mag was the best mag, but to say that Transworld and Big Brother were better or more influential isn’t accurate. Maybe for you, in your town, but that’s definitely an unpopular opinion. Shit, a month or 2 ago, i asked one of my very good friends, east coast dude early 50s dude, been skating since the 80s, in the industry since 97, about skate mag hierarchy in his lifetime and it went like “big brother had a cool early phase, but it’s always been Thrasher. I likes slap the best, the whole SF vibe, but Thrasher had dictated what happens in skateboarding. Transworld was like a Christian style skate mag.”

So its anecdotal and opinion based, but I haven’t encountered anyone sharing your opinion in the wild

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Same thing but replace Thrasher with Transworld. When it came to coverage and videos they put out, Thrasher definitely got the B-sides. Every great skater (even ones Phelps didn’t like) was putting their best stuff towards anything but Thrasher.

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If you wanna talk about which mag has been more influential

google image search “Celebs wearing Thrasher”

Then google image search “Celebs wearing Transworld” lol

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[Atiba Applebum]

Transworld made Cardiel and TNT household names with those video parts which Thrashr then was able to capitalize upon.

[SatanicPanic]

I dunno, could be a north/south thing in the 90s. Down here in SD Transworld was seen as what was happening, and Thrasher was just a bunch of crusty old dudes talking about bowls (which we didn't really have back then). "skate rock" was 80s stuff, and KOTR was far in the future. I don't think I saw I single Trasher video for a solid decade- they just weren't good. sort of like how the mag was printed on newsprint- it just seemed cheap. Like sure, I'd rather wear Thrasher shirt because the logo was cooler, but if I were buying a mag Transworld was much better.

Big Brother was funny and was talking about shit that Thrasher and Transworld were too old fashioned to touch- like gender issues or who was a kook. even in the late 90s people still cared- that was when the videos came out. Everybody had to see those.

Does anyone remember when Phelps tried to kook Frank Hirata out of the industry? Frank seemed to do just fine after that. So yeah maybe it's just down here but I didn't see how they were that influential. 

[Untamed]

Thrasher only started blowing up like around 2005 with kotr, then they came fully into their own during the 2010s

[Shortys Hardware]

Any1 else think how insane the 2012 transworlds cinematographer project is...like for me is crazy like that they were able to get all that amazing footage in that video, and have all those filmers contribute considering Thrasher more or less took over from there on out

[Shortys Hardware]

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Slaughterhouse remains, to this day, one of the single best and most enjoyable skateboard videos of all time.

I thought it was a classic back then when I first got and rewatched and rewatched the DVD and I still think so.

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Do you like the 88 Footwear video Destroy Everything Now? I think of it as the best "rocker" video of the era, with the coolest team and soundtrack. Slaughterhouse, Baker 3, & Cataclysmic Abyss have some gems but it seemed like the emphasis was more about playing dress up.

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See this is exactly what I was referring to when bringing up the video in this specific thread.
The shit said about people's outfits even when it was released was silly imo.

I enjoyed the fuck out of the 88 footwear video too, and it's similarly great. But Slaughterhouse, warts and all, is a well put together fucking classic. Charlie Castelluzo aside, everyone in the video went on to bigger things. It gave a load of the Baker crew their start. Except Ragdoll. That two song part was basically his magnum opus anyway.

And Slash kickflip fs 5050d the grass-side rail of Beverly Hills High (I think) but didn't get the recognition it deserved because of some tight jeans.

I loved the video at the time...and encapsulates 3 months of my life perfectly...but watching it now i wouldnt even have this in my top 50 videos of all time...the video works better as a independent video. Pig wood is such a nasty brand lmfao

[Coffee]

Middle aged Midwest dude here to chime in. In the mid/late 90’s to early 2000’s Transworld was way bigger here than Thrasher. Transworld full length videos used to be one of the big things you always looked forward to and always hit. Thrasher was definitely the older dude skating bowls mag to us, which given the closest shitty 3 foot quarter pipe to us was a 45 minute drive IF we could get a ride, it didn’t resonate. It was the 4th most popular mag in our little town. Funny enough my friends sister used to work at a shitty gas station that sold Slap Mag so we had every issue of it for years.

[Atiba Applebum]

Middle aged Midwest dude here to chime in. In the mid/late 90’s to early 2000’s Transworld was way bigger here than Thrasher. Transworld full length videos used to be one of the big things you always looked forward to and always hit. Thrasher was definitely the older dude skating bowls mag to us, which given the closest shitty 3 foot quarter pipe to us was a 45 minute drive IF we could get a ride, it didn’t resonate. It was the 4th most popular mag in our little town. Funny enough my friends sister used to work at a shitty gas station that sold Slap Mag so we had every issue of it for years.

transworld was always available in magazine stands in the grocery store where I was, with skateboarder 2nd and Thrasher just slightly 3rd.  Probably equal if I ever got to go to Borders Books and Music or somewhere with a huge selection

[DeanMaple]

Yeah, yeah, but thrasher won

Just like Christ

The irony...

[TwisT]

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Middle aged Midwest dude here to chime in. In the mid/late 90’s to early 2000’s Transworld was way bigger here than Thrasher. Transworld full length videos used to be one of the big things you always looked forward to and always hit. Thrasher was definitely the older dude skating bowls mag to us, which given the closest shitty 3 foot quarter pipe to us was a 45 minute drive IF we could get a ride, it didn’t resonate. It was the 4th most popular mag in our little town. Funny enough my friends sister used to work at a shitty gas station that sold Slap Mag so we had every issue of it for years.

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transworld was always available in magazine stands in the grocery store where I was, with skateboarder 2nd and Thrasher just slightly 3rd.  Probably equal if I ever got to go to Borders Books and Music or somewhere with a huge selection

Use to get tws from Walmart in the small town south. I don’t ever remember seeing thrasher on a shelf anywhere. the current thrasher dominance took me by surprise. Nobody read it when I was a growing up either

[Jort250]

Middle aged Midwest dude here to chime in. In the mid/late 90’s to early 2000’s Transworld was way bigger here than Thrasher. Transworld full length videos used to be one of the big things you always looked forward to and always hit. Thrasher was definitely the older dude skating bowls mag to us, which given the closest shitty 3 foot quarter pipe to us was a 45 minute drive IF we could get a ride, it didn’t resonate. It was the 4th most popular mag in our little town. Funny enough my friends sister used to work at a shitty gas station that sold Slap Mag so we had every issue of it for years.

Something about those 2000s Transworld videos just had some magic.

That or being a teenager

[roba]

Fuck it. ima just say it:
Skating a Heroin deck in 2025 feels icky, like irl 4chan dudes hoarding Pokémon cards or collecting Funko Pops. I say this because even though I fuck heavy with Heroin, the Instagram is literally just “look at my setup” porn. Do any of these people actually ride the fucking boards? Why am I looking at a wall covered in 8 different fucking egg decks on a Insta reel? When did did we start collecting readily available skateboards and treat them like PSA graded collectables instead of skating them? Like yeah, deck collecting always been a thing, but at this point I just want to see Craig Questions do a fat boneless or Dead Dave do something interesting, as opposed to a bunch of divorced dads jerking their pickles on the Heroin Insta. That said, I’m not out here saying all of Heroin is wack now. Did see a kid with a curb crusher deck the other day, and he was pretty chill.

these mfs really got hooked on heroin

Current stash:

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Companies should run board graphics for more than a season. A year minimum before bringing in new stuff. Pay each artist more. Gives potential classics room to grow in the zeitgeist. Gives shops breathing room and saves board wall space (they can display a couple and store the rest).

Seems like deck brands run themselves thin of ideas and instead put bad stuff out that adds up and hurts their image in the long run.

[ferguu]

Companies should run board graphics for more than a season. A year minimum before bringing in new stuff. Pay each artist more. Gives potential classics room to grow in the zeitgeist. Gives shops breathing room and saves board wall space (they can display a couple and store the rest).

Seems like deck brands run themselves thin of ideas and instead put bad stuff out that adds up and hurts their image in the long run.

Do artists make more money off deck sale royalties or the initial commission for the art? That could be the driving force behind the current way things are done. Whichever is cheaper for the brand too...

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Companies should run board graphics for more than a season. A year minimum before bringing in new stuff. Pay each artist more. Gives potential classics room to grow in the zeitgeist. Gives shops breathing room and saves board wall space (they can display a couple and store the rest).

Seems like deck brands run themselves thin of ideas and instead put bad stuff out that adds up and hurts their image in the long run.

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Do artists make more money off deck sale royalties or the initial commission for the art? That could be the driving force behind the current way things are done. Whichever is cheaper for the brand too...

In my model it would be upfront flat rate and then royalties past a certain threshold of decks sold. No idea if it’s cheaper than doing things per season but I feel like there is a large amount of slop coming out that end up in sale bins anyway. Same feelings toward softgoods

[Texas_Tone]

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Companies should run board graphics for more than a season. A year minimum before bringing in new stuff. Pay each artist more. Gives potential classics room to grow in the zeitgeist. Gives shops breathing room and saves board wall space (they can display a couple and store the rest).

Seems like deck brands run themselves thin of ideas and instead put bad stuff out that adds up and hurts their image in the long run.

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Do artists make more money off deck sale royalties or the initial commission for the art? That could be the driving force behind the current way things are done. Whichever is cheaper for the brand too...

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In my model it would be upfront flat rate and then royalties past a certain threshold of decks sold. No idea if it’s cheaper than doing things per season but I feel like there is a large amount of slop coming out that end up in sale bins anyway. Same feelings toward softgoods

This is not that bad of a business model especially for companies like Primitive that rely on series more than single one off graphics, only problem I would see in this is that people would complain about lack of individuality coming from brands because they’d be stuck riding the same graphic for longer over multiple boards, I feel like softgoods would be tougher because of how quick things change nowadays in the fashion world, but a few staple shirts is prolly better than jumping to whatever trend is popping at the moment and trying to cash in, interesting stuff to think about

[dapurge]

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Middle aged Midwest dude here to chime in. In the mid/late 90’s to early 2000’s Transworld was way bigger here than Thrasher. Transworld full length videos used to be one of the big things you always looked forward to and always hit. Thrasher was definitely the older dude skating bowls mag to us, which given the closest shitty 3 foot quarter pipe to us was a 45 minute drive IF we could get a ride, it didn’t resonate. It was the 4th most popular mag in our little town. Funny enough my friends sister used to work at a shitty gas station that sold Slap Mag so we had every issue of it for years.

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transworld was always available in magazine stands in the grocery store where I was, with skateboarder 2nd and Thrasher just slightly 3rd.  Probably equal if I ever got to go to Borders Books and Music or somewhere with a huge selection

apart from all of those, barnes and noble, borders always had kingpin, color, document, slam. tower records had strength, concussion, maybe juice, i def remember there being skate zines in there.

[carlwinslow]

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Slaughterhouse remains, to this day, one of the single best and most enjoyable skateboard videos of all time.

I thought it was a classic back then when I first got and rewatched and rewatched the DVD and I still think so.

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Do you like the 88 Footwear video Destroy Everything Now? I think of it as the best "rocker" video of the era, with the coolest team and soundtrack. Slaughterhouse, Baker 3, & Cataclysmic Abyss have some gems but it seemed like the emphasis was more about playing dress up.

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See this is exactly what I was referring to when bringing up the video in this specific thread.
The shit said about people's outfits even when it was released was silly imo.

I enjoyed the fuck out of the 88 footwear video too, and it's similarly great. But Slaughterhouse, warts and all, is a well put together fucking classic. Charlie Castelluzo aside, everyone in the video went on to bigger things. It gave a load of the Baker crew their start. Except Ragdoll. That two song part was basically his magnum opus anyway.

And Slash kickflip fs 5050d the grass-side rail of Beverly Hills High (I think) but didn't get the recognition it deserved because of some tight jeans.

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I loved the video at the time...and encapsulates 3 months of my life perfectly...but watching it now i wouldnt even have this in my top 50 videos of all time...the video works better as a independent video. Pig wood is such a nasty brand lmfao

slaughterhouse fucking sucks and anyone claiming otherwise is deluding themselves. everyone on the team* definitely dressed like shit but that's besides the point, all of those guys were operating on such a low level of skating compared to their peers. slash kickflip 50-50ing rails that bastien kickflip backside tailslid three full years prior (in a line!) and boardsliding hubbas that had already been front blunted, lizard king's ugly "creative" skating that was sometimes literally nothing (kickflip up a curb, nose bash fakie, switch heel off? come on), adrian mallory just skating like a watered down TNT, ragdoll's ass out and dragging on the ground every other shitty firecracker or grab or scraped manual because he can't keep up with people doing real tricks on those spots. and i don't love such direct trick-to-trick comparisons but its not like this video offers anything else, it's not edited well either and they're just skating a bunch of blown-out southern california spots, just worse! it was a laughing stock when it dropped, no one took it seriously, it hasn't aged well, so over of people calling it a classic. just because something came out when you were a teenager doesn't mean it's good.

*not counting shuriken but his part isn't enough to save this piece of shit

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Slaughterhouse remains, to this day, one of the single best and most enjoyable skateboard videos of all time.

I thought it was a classic back then when I first got and rewatched and rewatched the DVD and I still think so.

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Do you like the 88 Footwear video Destroy Everything Now? I think of it as the best "rocker" video of the era, with the coolest team and soundtrack. Slaughterhouse, Baker 3, & Cataclysmic Abyss have some gems but it seemed like the emphasis was more about playing dress up.

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See this is exactly what I was referring to when bringing up the video in this specific thread.
The shit said about people's outfits even when it was released was silly imo.

I enjoyed the fuck out of the 88 footwear video too, and it's similarly great. But Slaughterhouse, warts and all, is a well put together fucking classic. Charlie Castelluzo aside, everyone in the video went on to bigger things. It gave a load of the Baker crew their start. Except Ragdoll. That two song part was basically his magnum opus anyway.

And Slash kickflip fs 5050d the grass-side rail of Beverly Hills High (I think) but didn't get the recognition it deserved because of some tight jeans.

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I loved the video at the time...and encapsulates 3 months of my life perfectly...but watching it now i wouldnt even have this in my top 50 videos of all time...the video works better as a independent video. Pig wood is such a nasty brand lmfao

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slaughterhouse fucking sucks and anyone claiming otherwise is deluding themselves. everyone on the team* definitely dressed like shit but that's besides the point, all of those guys were operating on such a low level of skating compared to their peers. slash kickflip 50-50ing rails that bastien kickflip backside tailslid three full years prior (in a line!) and boardsliding hubbas that had already been front blunted, lizard king's ugly "creative" skating that was sometimes literally nothing (kickflip up a curb, nose bash fakie, switch heel off? come on), adrian mallory just skating like a watered down TNT, ragdoll's ass out and dragging on the ground every other shitty firecracker or grab or scraped manual because he can't keep up with people doing real tricks on those spots. and i don't love such direct trick-to-trick comparisons but its not like this video offers anything else, it's not edited well either and they're just skating a bunch of blown-out southern california spots, just worse! it was a laughing stock when it dropped, no one took it seriously, it hasn't aged well, so over of people calling it a classic. just because something came out when you were a teenager doesn't mean it's good.

*not counting shuriken but his part isn't enough to save this piece of shit

Nah, bcuz a video is so much more than the tricks written down.

[carlwinslow]

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Slaughterhouse remains, to this day, one of the single best and most enjoyable skateboard videos of all time.

I thought it was a classic back then when I first got and rewatched and rewatched the DVD and I still think so.

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Do you like the 88 Footwear video Destroy Everything Now? I think of it as the best "rocker" video of the era, with the coolest team and soundtrack. Slaughterhouse, Baker 3, & Cataclysmic Abyss have some gems but it seemed like the emphasis was more about playing dress up.

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See this is exactly what I was referring to when bringing up the video in this specific thread.
The shit said about people's outfits even when it was released was silly imo.

I enjoyed the fuck out of the 88 footwear video too, and it's similarly great. But Slaughterhouse, warts and all, is a well put together fucking classic. Charlie Castelluzo aside, everyone in the video went on to bigger things. It gave a load of the Baker crew their start. Except Ragdoll. That two song part was basically his magnum opus anyway.

And Slash kickflip fs 5050d the grass-side rail of Beverly Hills High (I think) but didn't get the recognition it deserved because of some tight jeans.

[close]

I loved the video at the time...and encapsulates 3 months of my life perfectly...but watching it now i wouldnt even have this in my top 50 videos of all time...the video works better as a independent video. Pig wood is such a nasty brand lmfao

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slaughterhouse fucking sucks and anyone claiming otherwise is deluding themselves. everyone on the team* definitely dressed like shit but that's besides the point, all of those guys were operating on such a low level of skating compared to their peers. slash kickflip 50-50ing rails that bastien kickflip backside tailslid three full years prior (in a line!) and boardsliding hubbas that had already been front blunted, lizard king's ugly "creative" skating that was sometimes literally nothing (kickflip up a curb, nose bash fakie, switch heel off? come on), adrian mallory just skating like a watered down TNT, ragdoll's ass out and dragging on the ground every other shitty firecracker or grab or scraped manual because he can't keep up with people doing real tricks on those spots. and i don't love such direct trick-to-trick comparisons but its not like this video offers anything else, it's not edited well either and they're just skating a bunch of blown-out southern california spots, just worse! it was a laughing stock when it dropped, no one took it seriously, it hasn't aged well, so over of people calling it a classic. just because something came out when you were a teenager doesn't mean it's good.

*not counting shuriken but his part isn't enough to save this piece of shit

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Nah, bcuz a video is so much more than the tricks written down.

yeah it's also the editing and spot selection and everything... which also fucking suck in slaughterhouse! i said that!

[Rick Trapasso]

Companies should run board graphics for more than a season. A year minimum before bringing in new stuff. Pay each artist more. Gives potential classics room to grow in the zeitgeist. Gives shops breathing room and saves board wall space (they can display a couple and store the rest).

Seems like deck brands run themselves thin of ideas and instead put bad stuff out that adds up and hurts their image in the long run.

I like this

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Fuck it. ima just say it:
Skating a Heroin deck in 2025 feels icky, like irl 4chan dudes hoarding Pokémon cards or collecting Funko Pops. I say this because even though I fuck heavy with Heroin, the Instagram is literally just “look at my setup” porn. Do any of these people actually ride the fucking boards? Why am I looking at a wall covered in 8 different fucking egg decks on a Insta reel? When did did we start collecting readily available skateboards and treat them like PSA graded collectables instead of skating them? Like yeah, deck collecting always been a thing, but at this point I just want to see Craig Questions do a fat boneless or Dead Dave do something interesting, as opposed to a bunch of divorced dads jerking their pickles on the Heroin Insta. That said, I’m not out here saying all of Heroin is wack now. Did see a kid with a curb crusher deck the other day, and he was pretty chill.

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these mfs really got hooked on heroin

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I really do not understand the heroin craze. Especially to the extent that they have become collectables.

What's even more bizarre to me is that it seems to be especially popular amongst the older crowd.

I wouldn't think the art would be appealing to older skaters or anything.

I guess it's all centered around old guys with too much disposable income doing Slappy's and feeling like these are the best boards for them?

Idk

[GnarAlarm]

What's even more bizarre to me is that it seems to be especially popular amongst the older crowd.

I wouldn't think the art would be appealing to older skaters or anything.

I guess it's all centered around old guys with too much disposable income doing Slappy's and feeling like these are the best boards for them?

Idk

Old heads love Jim Phillips art (including myself).
Fos art is clearly at least somewhat inspired by Jim Phillips.
Therefore, old heads love Heroin decks.

That and Heroin just has an old school vibe in general, in aesthetic and skate style.

Edit- to be clear, I'm not a Heroin fanboy, although I do have that Swampy prismatic deck in the picture above on my wall. My girl bought it for me for Christmas last year cause she thought I'd like it, and I do.

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

Phelps, GH, and Heroin

SLAP just couldn't resist itself again - keep the narcan ready

[Sandwich Marty]

IMO heroine’s image and aesthetic along with their zany shapes gives older dudes (who may or may not have kept up with skateboarding) permission to not take it so seriously which in turn allows them to just go dork around a couple times a week instead of feeling like a bag of wet starch in a parking lot beating themselves up for not having the same level of ledge tech they did 15 years ago.

I’m probably average slap user age and I totally get the appeal. I go back and forth between “I should optimize every component on my skateboard and see how far I can push myself” to “if I ride 10” trucks and that board shaped like a booger than anything I land is gonna be an accomplishment and I’m guaranteed to have fun just cruising”

Idk about the collectors though. Maybe they’re just rich and can’t skate very much so they buy boards to scratch the itch.

[pop idiot]

slaughterhouse fucking sucks

haha I had a similar immediate reaction to Cheshire's post but then I remembered what thread I'm in. Shurkien was the Franky Villani of Pig and Black Label. A welcome change of pace.

[Untamed]

Wish I could see more woman age 25-35 skating they're usually either too young or too old for me to enjoy the "skating"

Mostly talking about Instagram here

[Democratic Republic Of Mongo]

Wish I could see more woman age 25-35 skating they're usually either too young or too old for me to enjoy the "skating"

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-AwCo7JqZA/?igsh=MXVpbXBjeWdzdzM2bQ==