Im skating the Fallen 76s now. They are not bad, but the suede and the overal quality of shoes used to be a lot better. I remember having the first Rivals, back when they came out, and they were amazingly durable. I actually bought a pair of Chiefs out of nostalgy a couple months ago, and even though the model is old as fuck, and they are a little heavy, suede just feels much better than the suede on the 76s Im skating now.