Yeah, I know Buddy. We were late for a demo in Indy a few years back and he wasn't psyched, then after the demo the product toss was getting out of hand and he was on edge, he wanted to shut it down and I made a sarcastic comment to him and he got even more bummed. Then we talked for a while and squashed it. He's a good dude and I got nothing but love for what he brings to skateboarding and the Indy scene.