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rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« on: June 21, 2008, 07:47:16 PM »
I pulled the hell out of my groin muscle today.

Whats the best thing for this?
I'm going to go lay in a hot bath tun and relax, but any other ideas?

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 07:47:55 PM »
Asian massage and salvia.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 08:34:18 PM »
Be patient, not much you can do besides let it heal.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 08:54:37 PM »
Apply a moustace compress.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 09:22:21 PM »
i pulled mine playing soccer in high school. my daily routine was rest, electro shock, and ice. and not the ice that can get you in trouble with dog the bounty hunter.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 09:27:55 PM »
I pulled the hell out of my groin muscle today.

Whats the best thing for this?
I'm going to go lay in a hot bath tun and relax, but any other ideas?
Right out of that hot bath apply this:

Daily.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 09:32:36 PM »
also stretch before you go skate everyday

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 11:28:51 PM »
Arnica rubs. Stretching before you exert yourself is good to warm up muscles, but when a muscle is injured like the adductor you shouldn't do it if it causes pain and you could prolong healing. Rest is the best. Good luck!

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 11:41:43 PM »
also stretch before you go skate everyday

I stretched.... my leg just over extended coming off a crooks (back foot came off) and it pulled.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 10:01:56 AM »
do the hamstring stretch and the thigh - quadricep stretch. just stretch like a mofo, and from now on try to stretch everyday

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2008, 10:33:07 AM »
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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2008, 10:53:05 AM »
Don't stretch and don't use tiger balm.  Tiger balm is for sore muscles and all it does is numb the area and make it FEEL like it's better when it isn't.  Stretching a pulled muscle is one of the worst things you can do.  Take a bath with epsom salts, and don't exert yourself to the point where it hurts, as that means more time to heal.  If it doesn't hurt when doing normal activity you're doing good.
Always warm up before stretching.  Take some ibuprofen everyday as it will speed the healing process.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2008, 11:11:57 AM »
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I pulled the hell out of my groin muscle today.

Whats the best thing for this?
I'm going to go lay in a hot bath tun and relax, but any other ideas?
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Right out of that hot bath apply this:

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 11:24:43 AM »
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I pulled the hell out of my groin muscle today.

Whats the best thing for this?
I'm going to go lay in a hot bath tun and relax, but any other ideas?
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Right out of that hot bath apply this:

Daily.




who told you to put the balm on? did i tell you to put the balm on?

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 11:48:48 AM »
Information about a pulled groin, also called a groin strain
What is a groin pull?
A groin pull is an injury to the muscles of the inner thigh. The groin muscles, called the "adductor muscle" group, consists of six muscles that span the distance from the inner pelvis to the inner part of the femur (thigh bone). These muscles pull the legs together, and also help with other movements of the hip joint. The adductor muscles are important to many types of athletes including sprinters, swimmers, soccer players, and football players.

What happens to the muscle with a groin pull?
A groin pull is an injury to the adductor muscles called a muscle strain. When a muscle is strained, the muscle is stretched too far. Less severe strains pull the muscle beyond their normal excursion. More severe strains tear the muscle fibers, and can even cause a complete tear of the muscle. Most commonly, groin pulls are minor tears of some muscle fibers, but the bulk of the muscle tissue remains intact.

What are the symptoms of a groin pull?
An acute groin pull can be quite painful, depending on the severity of the injury. Groin pulls are usually graded as follows:

    * Grade I Groin Strain: Mild discomfort, often no disability. Usually does not limit activity.

    * Grade II Groin Strain: Moderate discomfort, can limit ability to perform activities such as running and jumping. May have moderate swelling and bruising associated.

    * Grade III Groin Strain: Severe injury that can cause pain with walking. Often patients complain of muscle spasm, swelling, and significant bruising.

Groin pulls are often seen in athletics who participate in sports such as ice hockey and soccer. The injury appears to be related to factors including hip muscle strength, preseason conditioning, and previous injury. Because of this, proper conditioning is of utmost importance to prevent the occurrence of a groin strain injury. Athletes, especially hockey and soccer players, should incorporate adductor strengthening, pelvic stabilization, and core strengthening exercises into their workouts to prevent the occurrence of a pulled groin.

What other problems can cause similar symptoms?
A pulled groin is usually a clear diagnosis. Most athletes know what the injury is before they seek medical attention. However, other conditions can mimic the symptoms of a groin strain.

One condition that was previously not well recognized is called a sports hernia. Sports hernias have been found in patients who were diagnosed with chronic groin strains. The sports hernia is a condition similar to a regular inguinal hernia, and is due to a weakening of the muscles that form the abdominal wall. The symptoms of a sports hernia are often nearly identical to those of a groin strain. For more information:

          o Sports hernias

          o Inguinal hernias

Other conditions that may mimic the symptoms of a groin strain include osteitis pubis (inflammation of the pubic bone), hip joint problems (including early arthritis, labral tears, and other conditions), and low back problems (pinched nerves).

When do I need to see a doctor for a groin pull?
If you have symptoms of a severe groin pull, you should be evaluated for proper treatment. Some signs of a severe groin strain include:

          o Difficulty walking
          o Pain while sitting or at rest
          o Pain at night

Severe groin pulls should be evaluated because in some very rare situations of complete muscle rupture, surgery may be necessary to reattach the torn ends of the muscle. This is rarely needed, even in patients with Grade III groin strain injuries, as these patients can usually undergo successful non-operative treatment.

If you are unsure if you have a groin pull or the symptoms do not quickly resolve, then you should be seen by your doctor. As described above, other conditions can be confused with a groin pull, and these should be considered if your symptoms do not resolve. Once a strain is diagnosed, you can begin treatment for your groin pull.
What is the treatment for a groin pull?
Treatment of a groin pull is usually guided by the severity of the injury. Resting a groin pull is the key to successful treatment. As a general rule of thumb, if you have a groin pull, you can do activities that don't aggravate your injury. You should rest until you are pain free to allow the injured muscle to heal. Resting inadequately may prolong your recovery.

The following are the common treatments used for groin strains:

    * Rest
      It is important to rest following the injury to allowed the injured muscle to properly heal. Allow pain to guide your level of activity; this means that activities which cause symptoms should be avoided.

    * Stretching
      Gentle stretching is helpful, but it should not be painful.
     
      Stretching excessively can be harmful and slow the healing process.
          o Adductor stretches

    * Ice the Injury
      Apply ice to the injured area in the acute phase (first 48 hours after injury), and then after activities. Ice will help calm the inflammatory response and stimulate blood flow to the area.

    * Heat Applications
      Before activities, gentle heating can help loosen the muscle. Apply a heat pack to the groin prior to stretching or exercising. As a general rule of thumb, remember to heat before, and ice after.
          o Know when to ice and when to heat an injury

    * Anti-inflammatory Medications
      Oral anti-inflammatory medications (such as Ibuprofen, Aleve, or Motrin) can help relieve symptoms of pain and also calm the inflammation.

    * Physical Therapy
      Physical therapists can be helpful in guiding treatment that may speed your recovery. Some people find modalities such as ultrasound, therapeutic massage, and specific exercises particularly helpful. You should see your physician to determine if these would be appropriate for your condition.

What can be done to prevent groin strains?
New research is shedding light on factors that can be helpful in preventing groin injuries. Competitive athletes who participate in soccer, ice hockey, or similar sports that are prone to groin injuries should focus some energy on groin injury prevention. Exactly what exercises and stretches are most important in still being worked out, but some suggestions for groin injury prevention include:

          o Adductor stretching

          o Hip adductor and abductor strengthening

          o Pelvic stabilization exercises

          o Core stability, including abdominal and lumbar strengthening

Together, these exercises and stretches can help control the movements of the hip and pelvis, and hopefully prevent many groin strains.
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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2008, 11:51:14 AM »
Don't stretch and don't use tiger balm.  Tiger balm is for sore muscles and all it does is numb the area and make it FEEL like it's better when it isn't.  Stretching a pulled muscle is one of the worst things you can do.  Take a bath with epsom salts, and don't exert yourself to the point where it hurts, as that means more time to heal.  If it doesn't hurt when doing normal activity you're doing good.
Always warm up before stretching.  Take some ibuprofen everyday as it will speed the healing process.
I'll agree with don't stretch it while it's still healing and even the ibuprofen but you've got it wrong with the Tiger Balm.  It doesn't really numb it but rather causes a slow deep burn which increases circulation to the area. That's an old stand by in chinese medicine and increased circulation to a certain area promotes healing. I'm not saying personal testimony is the most reliable source of info but I've nursed back ankles, knees, and my back successfully with the stuff and I swear by it.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2008, 12:15:55 PM »
Don't stretch and don't use tiger balm.  Tiger balm is for sore muscles and all it does is numb the area and make it FEEL like it's better when it isn't.  Stretching a pulled muscle is one of the worst things you can do.  Take a bath with epsom salts, and don't exert yourself to the point where it hurts, as that means more time to heal.  If it doesn't hurt when doing normal activity you're doing good.
Always warm up before stretching.  Take some ibuprofen everyday as it will speed the healing process.

Good advice, except for the ibuprofen. It is acetaminophen which will kill your liver. It's an analgesic (for pain) but has no healing properties.

Tiger Blam just masks the pain with camphor, mint, and other oils that create a warming feel on your skin. I swear to you, Arnica is it. Hasn't anybody ever tried it? Remember the guys who came out with Skater Aid (not the drink)? That was Arnica Oil. Try it and get well.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2008, 12:50:39 PM »
After you have healed it back, make sure to throw this stretch in everytime before skating. I do alot of stretches before a session, but this one is key for your groin, I'll hold that posistion for a good minute before moving on to the next one.


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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2008, 12:55:19 PM »
Here is the one I would recommend:

http://www.gaiaherbs.com/product.php?id=168


It's just arnica in a base of olive oil. The only smell is the olive oil, which isn't much.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2008, 03:13:52 PM »
Tylenol/Acetaminophen will not kill your liver unless you take more than 1000 mg at a time, or over 4000 in a day, especially in the context of drinking alcohol.

Using two painkillers (ibuprophen + tylenol) is a great move when you have a fresh injury
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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008, 04:14:33 PM »

& Epsom salt.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2008, 01:35:46 AM »

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Don't stretch and don't use tiger balm.  Tiger balm is for sore muscles and all it does is numb the area and make it FEEL like it's better when it isn't.  Stretching a pulled muscle is one of the worst things you can do.  Take a bath with epsom salts, and don't exert yourself to the point where it hurts, as that means more time to heal.  If it doesn't hurt when doing normal activity you're doing good.
Always warm up before stretching.  Take some ibuprofen everyday as it will speed the healing process.
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Tiger Blam just masks the pain with camphor, mint, and other oils that create a warming feel on your skin. I swear to you, Arnica is it. Hasn't anybody ever tried it? Remember the guys who came out with Skater Aid (not the drink)? That was Arnica Oil. Try it and get well.



Rodney Jones turned my friend on to Arnica cream and he relayed it to me. It does work pretty well. Check your local health food store or website, I think I've even seen it in Wal Mart before...
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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2022, 06:34:00 PM »

What can be done to prevent groin strains?
New research is shedding light on factors that can be helpful in preventing groin injuries. Competitive athletes who participate in soccer, ice hockey, or similar sports that are prone to groin injuries should focus some energy on groin injury prevention. Exactly what exercises and stretches are most important in still being worked out, but some suggestions for groin injury prevention include:

          o Adductor stretching

          o Hip adductor and abductor strengthening

          o Pelvic stabilization exercises

          o Core stability, including abdominal and lumbar strengthening

Together, these exercises and stretches can help control the movements of the hip and pelvis, and hopefully prevent many groin strains.

been dealing with this issue for some months now and, once I found a physio that understood that my goal wasn't just to not to feel pain but to be able to skate again, I've been on a program focusing of the the four main things you mentioned above and, in only a month and a half, i'm already feeling better than the past 12ish months. Very insightfull answer pal. Cheers!

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2022, 07:54:35 PM »
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What can be done to prevent groin strains?
New research is shedding light on factors that can be helpful in preventing groin injuries. Competitive athletes who participate in soccer, ice hockey, or similar sports that are prone to groin injuries should focus some energy on groin injury prevention. Exactly what exercises and stretches are most important in still being worked out, but some suggestions for groin injury prevention include:

          o Adductor stretching

          o Hip adductor and abductor strengthening

          o Pelvic stabilization exercises

          o Core stability, including abdominal and lumbar strengthening

Together, these exercises and stretches can help control the movements of the hip and pelvis, and hopefully prevent many groin strains.
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been dealing with this issue for some months now and, once I found a physio that understood that my goal wasn't just to not to feel pain but to be able to skate again, I've been on a program focusing of the the four main things you mentioned above and, in only a month and a half, i'm already feeling better than the past 12ish months. Very insightfull answer pal. Cheers!

Dude this thread is from 14 years ago.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
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What can be done to prevent groin strains?
New research is shedding light on factors that can be helpful in preventing groin injuries. Competitive athletes who participate in soccer, ice hockey, or similar sports that are prone to groin injuries should focus some energy on groin injury prevention. Exactly what exercises and stretches are most important in still being worked out, but some suggestions for groin injury prevention include:

          o Adductor stretching

          o Hip adductor and abductor strengthening

          o Pelvic stabilization exercises

          o Core stability, including abdominal and lumbar strengthening

Together, these exercises and stretches can help control the movements of the hip and pelvis, and hopefully prevent many groin strains.
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been dealing with this issue for some months now and, once I found a physio that understood that my goal wasn't just to not to feel pain but to be able to skate again, I've been on a program focusing of the the four main things you mentioned above and, in only a month and a half, i'm already feeling better than the past 12ish months. Very insightfull answer pal. Cheers!
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Dude this thread is from 14 years ago.

guess that's what the search feature is for? I don't know, in case i have something to express i like to throw a quick search before typing. Cheers

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2022, 12:00:07 PM »
I’m sure medical knowledge has moved on since the 80s, but I recall that Mike McGill once pulled a groin muscle in the middle of a Vert contest at the Raging Waters “Boomeramp” & NSA trainer/medic Barry Zaritsky applied a warm mustache compress to the affected area & that seemed to fix him up pretty quick.
I think McGill was feeling better afterwords, too. ;)


EDIT: Can’t recall where he placed in the contest, but he kept skating throughout the rest of the comp, so…

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2022, 01:47:46 PM »
Was Barry’s middle initial “J”? It would have made it less conspicuous when pros at NSA events yell for “BJ” for their groin related problems.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2022, 07:58:07 PM »
Be patient, not much you can do besides let it heal.

yep, don't do anything. In 3-7 (or however long) days when you have the realization "hey, I forgot about that groin thing", start stretching it out real easy. Avoid kickflips for awhile, the flick aggravates it, at least for me.

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Re: rememdies for a yanked groin muscle
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2022, 03:18:44 PM »
Go get acupuncture and take some chinese herbs