Zero is the new Powell.

[ghost of barry white]

Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

[Texas_Tone]

The chief wishes people bought zero like they do Powell

[TastyBurrito]

Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

Marisa Del Santo

[Ex Lion Tamer]

and Boserio

[Atiba Applebum]

Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

Counterpoint: Jamie runs a boot camp for being a pro and you either get chewed up and spit out or you move on from zero and have a pretty solid career in skateboarding as a pro and behind the scenes.   I think Zero is something you just kinda move on from pay-wise and skill-wise

[Síota]

At least you know how much you are gonna get paid by signing for zero

[minilogoflow]

Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

Much like small market teams in sports, Zero is a glorified farm team for the bigger brands.

[Resin]

At least you know how much you are gonna get paid by signing for zero

[Cuban_Lynx]

Colden paid $15,000 to leave Black Box for Skate Mental, lol.

[kneebone]

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Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

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Much like small market teams in sports, Zero is a glorified farm team for the bigger brands.

So yes, Zero is exactly like 2000s era Powell

[Texas_Tone]

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Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

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Much like small market teams in sports, Zero is a glorified farm team for the bigger brands.

[close]

So yes, Zero is exactly like 2000s era Powell

Failed to see this side of it, but yea I can see the similarities between after you mention the 2000s Powell team, fucking Silas Baxter Neal used to ride for them

[Cuban_Lynx]

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Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

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Much like small market teams in sports, Zero is a glorified farm team for the bigger brands.

[close]

So yes, Zero is exactly like 2000s era Powell

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Failed to see this side of it, but yea I can see the similarities between after you mention the 2000s Powell team, fucking Silas Baxter Neal used to ride for them

Speaking of Habitat, Powell tried to turn Suciu pro at 16 but he turned them down. && might be the best thing to happen to Powell since Mike V

[Snappyfingers]

The chief wishes people bought zero like they do Powell

🤣🤦‍♂️

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Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

[close]

Much like small market teams in sports, Zero is a glorified farm team for the bigger brands.

[close]

So yes, Zero is exactly like 2000s era Powell

[close]

Failed to see this side of it, but yea I can see the similarities between after you mention the 2000s Powell team, fucking Silas Baxter Neal used to ride for them

Figgy, Joslin, Mark Suciu also come to mind.

[AVE3.0]

Maybe it's because Nike/Converse/Asic/Adidas/New Balance doesn't fuck with Zero riders.  If Forrest were on any of those brands (maybe not so much New Balance or Asic) you'd be looking at Zero a little differently. Welcome to the industry.

[Morning Jazz Radio]

Maybe it's because Nike/Converse/Asic/Adidas/New Balance doesn't fuck with Zero riders.  If Forrest were on any of those brands (maybe not so much New Balance or Asic) you'd be looking at Zero a little differently. Welcome to the industry.

Gabriel Summers.

[Scab Picker]

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Maybe it's because Nike/Converse/Asic/Adidas/New Balance doesn't fuck with Zero riders.  If Forrest were on any of those brands (maybe not so much New Balance or Asic) you'd be looking at Zero a little differently. Welcome to the industry.

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Gabriel Summers.

Wilton Souza skates NB#, but I don’t expect either of them to even get a colorway, or even an ad for those shoe companies.

[gsosa]

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Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

[close]

Much like small market teams in sports, Zero is a glorified farm team for the bigger brands.

[close]

So yes, Zero is exactly like 2000s era Powell

[close]

Failed to see this side of it, but yea I can see the similarities between after you mention the 2000s Powell team, fucking Silas Baxter Neal used to ride for them

[close]

Figgy, Joslin, Mark Suciu also come to mind.

Ben Hatchell who went from Powell to Zero

[JakeBeskatin]

Zero is like Dgk, they are to be used as a stepping stone for talented riders to rise through the ranks and move on to bigger and better things.
Sorta like a talent scout, giving out opportunities to a bunch of people in the hopes of finding their diamond in the rough.

[Jacintos Praying Mantis]

Zero is like Dgk, they are to be used as a stepping stone for talented riders to rise through the ranks and move on to bigger and better things.
Sorta like a talent scout, giving out opportunities to a bunch of people in the hopes of finding their diamond in the rough.

DGK is a pretty good destination and most likely pays their riders decently.

[CreepySweaty]

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Zero is like Dgk, they are to be used as a stepping stone for talented riders to rise through the ranks and move on to bigger and better things.
Sorta like a talent scout, giving out opportunities to a bunch of people in the hopes of finding their diamond in the rough.

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DGK is a pretty good destination and most likely pays their riders decently.

I’m curious how you came to this conclusion. Do you think their pedigree and overall vibe lends to some amount of decent business practice?

[GreenLineAcid]

I think Powell is still the old Powell though.

[JakeBeskatin]

Im sure both of them (Zero & Powel) compensate their riders somewhat well. But they are not the end goal for pro’s who are trying to either make a long lasting career through skating or are trying to break into the fashion/ lifestyle brands that pay well.

[Cuban_Lynx]

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Zero is like Dgk, they are to be used as a stepping stone for talented riders to rise through the ranks and move on to bigger and better things.
Sorta like a talent scout, giving out opportunities to a bunch of people in the hopes of finding their diamond in the rough.

[close]

DGK is a pretty good destination and most likely pays their riders decently.

[close]

I’m curious how you came to this conclusion. Do you think their pedigree and overall vibe lends to some amount of decent business practice?

They're pretty well known for not paying their riders in the past, but things might have changed. That's why Rodrigo TX posted him throwing his board in the trash. Kalis openly said he was riding for them pro bono. Rick Ross sued them for not paying.

https://www.tmz.com/2016/08/30/rick-ross-dgk-lawsuit-brand-ambassador/

During I <3 Haters times they were probably paying pretty well as evidenced by Keelan's famous text.

[neonbrown]

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Zero is like Dgk, they are to be used as a stepping stone for talented riders to rise through the ranks and move on to bigger and better things.
Sorta like a talent scout, giving out opportunities to a bunch of people in the hopes of finding their diamond in the rough.

[close]

DGK is a pretty good destination and most likely pays their riders decently.

[close]

I’m curious how you came to this conclusion. Do you think their pedigree and overall vibe lends to some amount of decent business practice?

[close]

They're pretty well known for not paying their riders in the past, but things might have changed. That's why Rodrigo TX posted him throwing his board in the trash. Kalis openly said he was riding for them pro bono. Rick Ross sued them for not paying.

https://www.tmz.com/2016/08/30/rick-ross-dgk-lawsuit-brand-ambassador/

During I <3 Haters times they were probably paying pretty well as evidenced by Keelan's famous text.

Keelan who?

[sfa]

Personally, I think Zero is radder than it's been in a long ass time. I kinda want a black hoodie with the big bold zero text.

[Cuban_Lynx]

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Is zero the new stepping stone?? They fumbled Dylan Jaeb, Hockeys new am Cruise Mosberg, John Fitzgerald, Tom K, Franky Villani, and I’m sure I’m missing some others.

[close]

Much like small market teams in sports, Zero is a glorified farm team for the bigger brands.

[close]

So yes, Zero is exactly like 2000s era Powell

[close]

Failed to see this side of it, but yea I can see the similarities between after you mention the 2000s Powell team, fucking Silas Baxter Neal used to ride for them

[close]

Speaking of Habitat, Powell tried to turn Suciu pro at 16 but he turned them down. && might be the best thing to happen to Powell since Mike V

[close]

Was it because he felt he was too young or because it was Powell? Pretty boss move if it was the latter

"I wouldn’t be surprised if I quit Habitat shoes before I was getting any adidas. That’s what I did when I quit Powell, they wanted to turn me am when I was 16 and I said, “You know, I don’t think I want to do it, I think I just want to look for another sponsor, but thanks so much”, and we left on good terms. For six weeks I just skated random boards, and then Josh Kalis got me a box of Alien boards. And from there I got on Habitat."

https://www.northskatemag.com/blogs/north-latest/mark-suciu-interview

[WarmUpZone]

I think that skaters who didn't achieve greater fame after leaving Zero (or Powell) shouldn't count. So Marisa or Wade Burkitt aren't good examples.

I've always considered Think (post Drehobl) to be the most minor-league of teams - developing talent before their riders make it to The Big Show with another company, or even worse where players stick around to toil in obscurity (Danny Fuenzalida, Jake Nunn, Sean Payne...).

Think at one time or another had:
Duffman
Joey Guevera
Brain De La Torre
Liard King
Diego the Butcher
Lee Yankou
Bachinsky
and even love-to-hate-ems like Cody Mac and Manny Santiago.

These aren't all superstars, but they all moved on to greener pastures after Think.

Toy Machine has also farmed a lot of big names including Muska, Tysahwn, Bam Bam, and even the Chief.

[Bupstop]

I could see Angel Boy on Zero.

[sid vicious]

I like Zero