The end of Cons

[Emo jimmy]

2 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?

It sounds about right

[Mandatory Reload]

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Selt out to big corps was not an economic problem, now we see skaters with big checks compared to core brand era.


Not true... back then everyone got paid, now only a handful of dudes are getting paid.

Nike team at one point had like 40 skaters, its Adio, Es, Lakai and Fallen teams all combined. But Dvs, DC, Circa and Osiris used to like 20 skaters on the team.

Nike never had 40 AMs and Pros at once. Or those other companies... we aren't including flow riders...

Big corp shoes killed skate brand clothes also, Ezekiel, Elwood, 4 star, Krew, LRG etc. Cause big corp riders cant dress another brand shirts and other clothes.

No they didn't... and lot of those brands didnt make it because skaters stopped wearing skate brand clothes to wear non-skate clothes.

Carhart is cooler than 4 star now, but what they has to do with skateboarding history?

No... no one was buying 4 star towards the end because it became wack... same thing with Dickies... we been wearing that before the skate program. They saw a business opportunity and made a Dickies skate line...

Nothing remains strong and historic without strong cultural structures and rituals.

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4star went under due nike effect when Koston and Mariano leaved crail tap cause nike checks was good enough for dont care about dress money.

P.rod leaves 4star right after sign with Nike.

At one point I counted more than 40 pros on nike site: https://www.nikesb.com/team

Skate wear was more for the kid and skateboarding enthusiasts, but having pros in ads and videos commercials helped brands to sell for other people that liked skate. Now its 2 big brands paying few dudes for only wear they pants.

Yeah Nike definitely has a huge team, and I would say they also have a ton of skaters who are "on" but aren't on the team page too. Out of the 12 skaters they just had in their Air Force 1 "Creased" video (if you're in a team video, you're on the team imo), only Antonio, Casper, Cyrus, and Bobby are on the team page. Karim, Poe, Troy, Joe Campos, Jack O'Grady, Ryuhei, Ville, Elijah Odom, and Dante all don't have a profile on the team page.

[Mr. Jax Taylor]

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2 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?

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It sounds about right

They Fired TM Lee Berman A Month Or Two Back

[yourfuckingdad]

Anyone else remember how weird their launch was?





They launched with two normal-ish chuck colors (but not iconic ones) and weird ass black and yellow one. That puffy chuck was the best vulc shoe and I will die mad that Jason Jesse probably got them to slim it down to complete his peckerwood fit.

Pretty sure this was their first high top chuck:

[Money Pit]

Anyone else remember how weird their launch was?





They launched with two normal-ish chuck colors (but not iconic ones) and weird ass black and yellow one. That puffy chuck was the best vulc shoe and I will die mad that Jason Jesse probably got them to slim it down to complete his peckerwood fit.

Pretty sure this was their first high top chuck:

I have been searching for a pair of these black/yellow chuck lows for a very long time now. If anybody has a pair size 8 please let me know.

[Noble Experiment]

Anyone remember when they first launched their skate program they had two separate sects when it came to their skate shoes? It was CONS, and then it was Converse Skateboarding. I remember CONS had their logo as just CONS in big bold lettering, but Converse Skateboarding's logo was the star chevron logo minimized on the top left corner on like a flag. I never got why they separated the program in two? Were they going for like a Nike SB/Nike 6.0 thing? They eventually just combined it all into one, but it was always strange to me at first.
I remember my first pair from their launch being shoes from the Converse Skateboarding sect of their skate program, these shoes to be exact:

I remember them being pretty durable, I remember thinking they skated decent but lost their grip pretty quickly.

[Dj Paul]

Anyone remember when they first launched their skate program they had two separate sects when it came to their skate shoes? It was CONS, and then it was Converse Skateboarding. I remember CONS had their logo as just CONS in big bold lettering, but Converse Skateboarding's logo was the star chevron logo minimized on the top left corner on like a flag. I never got why they separated the program in two? Were they going for like a Nike SB/Nike 6.0 thing? They eventually just combined it all into one, but it was always strange to me at first.
I remember my first pair from their launch being shoes from the Converse Skateboarding sect of their skate program, these shoes to be exact:

I remember them being pretty durable, I remember thinking they skated decent but lost their grip pretty quickly.

I had a pair, this shoe was  indestructible

[TorontoTrustFund]

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2 pages in and no one is questioning the validity of this claim?

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It sounds about right

DeanMaple would never talk abrasively out of his ass pretending he has a clue about anything that isn’t alcohol

That being said, DC has removed most, if not all, of the Slytherins from its team so I could see Dobby making his triumphant accio back

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would you guys rather skate the chany 1 or 2

[manuduncan]

Feels like the team will be

BDK

Mike Anderson

Louie

Alexis

Milton Martinez

then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.

brian odwyer presumably will make the cut, maybe chris athans too

any girls on their team besides alexis?

[TwisT]

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Feels like the team will be

BDK

Mike Anderson

Louie

Alexis

Milton Martinez

then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.

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brian odwyer presumably will make the cut, maybe chris athans too

any girls on their team besides alexis?

Bryce

[TheWineClub]

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Feels like the team will be

BDK

Mike Anderson

Louie

Alexis

Milton Martinez

then a bunch of folks getting bumped down to flow.

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brian odwyer presumably will make the cut, maybe chris athans too

any girls on their team besides alexis?

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Bryce

Ariana Spencer

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who was it that called them racist for not re-posting his clips when he was flow for them again? for whatever reason that just popped into my head while reading through the thread.

[TheWineClub]

who was it that called them racist for not re-posting his clips when he was flow for them again? for whatever reason that just popped into my head while reading through the thread.

Darius King

[easymoneysniper]

Erik hererra better be chillin too

[layzieyez]

would you guys rather skate the chany 1 or 2

I skated at least three pairs of the ones on top.

Pretty decent shoes. Wish I had better insoles in them.

[pinkeye fieri]

i always have to make a vertical cut from the top of the the inside panel of ctas pro, down to the circle logo, in order to get the ankle mobility for even a basic ollie/kickflip. no such trouble w regular chucks or any other high top shoe of any brand i've skated. is it just me? i know people have a hard time "adjusting to the toecap", but i would buy more pares if they had basic ankle mobility.

[yourfuckingdad]

Anyone remember when they first launched their skate program they had two separate sects when it came to their skate shoes? It was CONS, and then it was Converse Skateboarding. I remember CONS had their logo as just CONS in big bold lettering, but Converse Skateboarding's logo was the star chevron logo minimized on the top left corner on like a flag. I never got why they separated the program in two? Were they going for like a Nike SB/Nike 6.0 thing? They eventually just combined it all into one, but it was always strange to me at first.
I remember my first pair from their launch being shoes from the Converse Skateboarding sect of their skate program, these shoes to be exact:

I remember them being pretty durable, I remember thinking they skated decent but lost their grip pretty quickly.

Yeah that was their cheaper tier, available at sports shops and shit. Similar to the funky Vans slip-ons they sell at Kohls, or Nike 6.0 like you mentioned. Always thought CONS was a stupid name and they should have used that for the mall shoes.

[Mongo Lloyd]

would you guys rather skate the chany 1 or 2

I did skate the Chany’s 1’s, my first proper skate shoe! In the black/red/grey colorway.

[Atiba Applebum]

Id go with the 2s just to hoard the helium

[IanBZHD]

Anyone else remember how weird their launch was?





They launched with two normal-ish chuck colors (but not iconic ones) and weird ass black and yellow one. That puffy chuck was the best vulc shoe and I will die mad that Jason Jesse probably got them to slim it down to complete his peckerwood fit.

Pretty sure this was their first high top chuck:

100% something about the first puffy chucks made them the best feeling shoe ever.
There have been many iterations, but none that good again.
They also had a vulc pro leather in the pre-first drops that was basically the one-star now, Trapasso got the cover with the 5-0 in them without publicly quitting Vans, from what I heard at the time.

The cheaper line, which actually had a separate team including Rune Glifberg, was called Black Flag.
This was the thing at the time with Nike 6.0 and Circa Combat doing similar things, although 6.0 only sponsored mall kids and snowboarders.

[Shiro417gunpla]

Still have my trapasso ox pro mid navy with lime green hits my all time favorite Converse of all time.

[bokchoy]

Chany 1 is an obvious Koston 1/D3 knock off. They must have been good tho I used to see those in clips way back.

[Mongo Lloyd]

Thing is, Converse has a back catalog of shoes they can draw from that people actually want.

How many years now have we all been asking for a skateable weapon re-release?

The AS-1 is constantly being sold at blowout prices (I’ve ranted many times here about the poor design of that model, sorry Alexis).

I think another problem is they just flat out produce too many shoes. All the models can be found online for around $40. No one is buying at the rate that they’re pumping those things out.

[144p]

The reality is people will wear and skate chuck taylors with or without a skate team. Some higher up at Nike with a nice cherry stained desk is having a zoom meeting and telling everyone how it’s not viable and to do the things you do to legally end something.
Thats how these things go, it’s a corporation. I hope it’s not true but firing the tm and the entire sales staff seems pretty troubling.

[Chalupa]

The reality is people will wear and skate chuck taylors with or without a skate team. Some higher up at Nike with a nice cherry stained desk is having a zoom meeting and telling everyone how it’s not viable and to do the things you do to legally end something.
Thats how these things go, it’s a corporation. I hope it’s not true but firing the tm and the entire sales staff seems pretty troubling.

Trimming the team or cutting back on flowing people is one thing, but this makes it really hard to support them. Plus, corporate shops like SW and CCS mark down their CONS lower than legit shops can.

I rather buy shoes from whatever company takes care of shops the best, but have no idea what that would be. Mandatory and minimum orders with high quantities is wack, especially for the smaller shops.

[Dj Paul]

Only skaters that I see wearing cons are sponsored ones and dudes that get them in  cheap prices from insider gamers.

Cons only sells chuck taylos for alternative people and some high tops for headbangers, they dont need skateboarding marketing.

In other hand New Balance has that old guy stereotype and needs embrance that cool young boy factor. NB numeric is working well for this type of intention. Now every hypebeast is wearing NB or Asics dad shoes.


I feel bad for Brad Cromer, my fav skater on Cons.

[Lame_Fella]

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who was it that called them racist for not re-posting his clips when he was flow for them again? for whatever reason that just popped into my head while reading through the thread.

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Darius King

Dude completely nuked his career before it even got off the ground. He was good but not THAT good to act the way he was. Can’t even find his Instagram anymore, I know I DM’d him like a man around the time it happened but it’s gone now.


I would buy converse if they were overpriced. A pair of Chucks should not be more than $55, they are the most basic shoe possible. They have a cool image but you need more than an image

[Mongo Lloyd]

Only skaters that I see wearing cons are sponsored ones and dudes that get them in  cheap prices from insider gamers.

Cons only sells chuck taylos for alternative people and some high tops for headbangers, they dont need skateboarding marketing.

In other hand New Balance has that old guy stereotype and needs embrance that cool young boy factor. NB numeric is working well for this type of intention. Now every hypebeast is wearing NB or Asics dad shoes.


I feel bad for Brad Cromer, my fav skater on Cons.

Idk man, in my area Cons have a heavy presence in the skate scene (western MA, CT).

Probably one of the most frequently worn brands I see. Part of that could be due to Plush pushing them for obvious reasons.

[gnidraobetaks]

Looking at their team, I can’t really imagine them giving anyone a boot. Maybe they would give Sage or Bobby D some kind of like fashion boot or something.