Gear Stability Thread (opposite of The Madness)

[mattchew]

Anyone else almost never fuck with their set up?

I’m well into my third decade of skating and I’ve ridden the exact same set up for six years now.

Crail loveseat
Indy titanium 159 with white Indy bushings
Spitfire conical full 54mm
Bones reds bearings
Bronze 1” Phillips
Jessup
LRAB VM001 Hi Tops.

Last week I started skating some half cabs for the first time in eight or nine years, I skate well enough in them but damn do they hurt my feet once I take them off, definitely the last pair I’ll ever skate. I got some Grasshoppers for $35 recently as well but I already know I’m going back to LRAB.

Feels great to never fuck with anything after 30 years of bullshit tinkering.

Anyone else do this or are you all just insane thinking that it’s just gotta be that new piece of gear that is right around the corner that is gonna solve all your kickflips woes?

[Sloppy Krooks]

Something something 9-inch plus (preferably Black Label)

Ace trucks

X97 wheels

Is my happy place

[The Huffer]

Crail loveseat

Are they still making them?

[mattchew]

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Crail loveseat

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Are they still making them?

It’s been a min, fuck this loveseat plus nonsense, but once I realized it was “the one” your boy started hoarding for this exact situation. 11 on ice and always looking for more.

[Plan9Customs]

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Crail loveseat

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Are they still making them?

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It’s been a min, fuck this loveseat plus nonsense, but once I realized it was “the one” your boy started hoarding for this exact situation. 11 on ice and always looking for more.

Did the same with my favorite Scram shape(s). Unfortunately I’m down to 3 now. Sure hope they keep Logan’s board around since that’s the next one I’m hoarding.

[The Huffer]

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Crail loveseat

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Are they still making them?

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It’s been a min, fuck this loveseat plus nonsense, but once I realized it was “the one” your boy started hoarding for this exact situation. 11 on ice and always looking for more.

I'm that way with the Huffer. Not seeing any in any upcoming catalogs (at least through Fall drop 2) so will likely need to stack my hoard even higher (currently have two set up and three in reserve) Good luck.

[Jort250]

I know folks have opinions but my best skating is on Nike Janoski’s and they aren’t bad on the eyes

Also Pig bolts for life

[somethingmustbreaknow]

i'm stable

primitive 8.5 (width matters, i don't care about wb - never have, never will.)
independent 149 standards, with conical orange aftermarket bushings, always
spitfire formula 4 radials, radial slims or classics in 99 or 101 duro, 52-53mm
bones swiss six balls
shorty's silverados allen hardware, always
jessup grip, black, always
nike sb shoes (lagrest variance here, but in the past mostly bruins, blazers)

[DarkPools]

I feel stable & consistent on my deck 90%  of the time so I don't have "madness" there

Indy 149s
Spitfire F4 (99du)
8.5 decks (usually BBS/Generator brands)
Bones bearings
Mob grip

Indy 149s always for the last 15 years - Standard, Hollow Standard, Forged Hollow, Forged Hollow Standard: any combination of those I run depending on the concave/kick steepness of the deck

Spitfire - Conical/Full, OG Classic, and soon to be Radials. I also have some Classic Fulls I wanna try after the Radials. Usually 53-54mm, but I'm gonna branch out into 55-58 territory on a spare setup for fun to see how I like those

Decks: I like the BBS moderate concave/medium steep kicks with a slightly full nose, and a slightly tapered (but not too tapered) tail. Polar, Black Label, DLX 8.5 (14.38WB shape), Element, Passport, etc.

WB: needs to be 14.38 -14.5 and length is no shorter than 32"

It's the shoe "madness" or curiosity as I called it forever ha! I wanna try & skate ap many copl shoes out,  but at this point I know what works to flick in, so it's vanity or masochism to explore other options

[chillclinton87]

Been on 8.125 boards and thunder 147s since about 2009 up until last year. Switched up to 8.25 then.

Still on thunders but 148 and upped 1mm in wheelsize- 52 to 53mm. Stock bushings always.

On formula fours since they first came out.

Alwys end up back on dunks since i first skated them around 2018.

I‘m rather short about 1,70m/ 5‘7“ and one of the few people around still skating a „smaller“ board, where i feel that 8.25 is the widest i‘ll go.

Switched up in boardsize cause 8.1 boards were a hassle to find and if i found one they still weren‘t the 2014 habitat and workshop shapes i dearly miss……

[TwisT]

A non Dlx bbs 8.25. The stock shape is perfect 14.25wb. Mellow concave.

Thunders perfably hollow lights
Spitfire classics
Dunks or blazers

My default is so damn generic, I almost never run it. I like to try different things but I know the above setup works and I can get it anywhere. If I lost all my skate shit and had to start over, that’s what I’d get from the shop.

[F Word]

i switch up everything except Jessup griptape 4 lyfe

[DNTRODDEN]

Trying to get there🤞

[Sedition]

While I experimented with things, my main set-up remained wholly unchanged for over 10-years.

8.25 / 14.38 DLX
53 / 99 Classics
144 / 149 Forged Hollows
Swiss / Swiss 6
Old School Vans, and then moved to Sk8-Hi after I broke my leg / ankle in 2019 (high tops help cover up hardware area in ankle from getting shark bite...will never skate in low tops again, despite how much I loved them)

Last year I moved up to a bigger set-up, and that has also remained mostly unchanged.

8.75 / 14.5 BLKLBL
53 / 99 Classics
159 Forged Hollow / Cast
Swiss 6

I still have the 8.25 set, but just don't ride it that much anymore.

[tuesday]

White 52mm wheels. 99a Formula 4s by default.
1/16 or 1/24 shockpads.

edit: totaly forgot b/c this is not even up for any second thought: Allen head hardware. Always.

[DONT_CARE]

8.6 or 8.75 with a wb. less or around 14.5
58-60mm wide spitfires
159 indy's with the white bushings
pepper grip
vans slip ons
randoms hardware 3 in each
bloard rails

idk thats what's worked for me for the last 10 years or so i still suck at skating but it at least makes it feel better

[roba]

jessup and a 14.25wb deck in the 8.25-8.5 range since 2018-ish and venture 5.8s since 2021 or 2022

i've been liking those accel 95s too, i'm on my 6th pair now and got a 7th on ice. i could stick with them forever tbh but not for retail

[rawbertson.]

Shop Board (control 8.5" twin x 14.25")
Indy 149
F4 RF 56mm 99a
Bones Swiss
NB# 306

[manuduncan]

Anyone else almost never fuck with their set up?

I’m well into my third decade of skating and I’ve ridden the exact same set up for six years now.

Crail loveseat
Indy titanium 159 with white Indy bushings
Spitfire conical full 54mm
Bones reds bearings
Bronze 1” Phillips
Jessup
LRAB VM001 Hi Tops.

Last week I started skating some half cabs for the first time in eight or nine years, I skate well enough in them but damn do they hurt my feet once I take them off, definitely the last pair I’ll ever skate. I got some Grasshoppers for $35 recently as well but I already know I’m going back to LRAB.

Feels great to never fuck with anything after 30 years of bullshit tinkering.

Anyone else do this or are you all just insane thinking that it’s just gotta be that new piece of gear that is right around the corner that is gonna solve all your kickflips woes?

interesting i love how lrabs look but ironically my feet are hurtin after wearing those more so than lots of other shoes

ive tried lots of different shoes but the one i tend to keep coming back to are cons fastbreaks

[swongolianbbq]

 The constant has been:

BBS 14.25 x 8.25 - 8.5 (mostly blue eagles, blue ovals, baker OG shape)
Indy 149s
Bones swiss
Spitfire 54mm

With some experimenting for damn sure, that I'm trying to deal with in the other thread but when I look at my posts I look like a crazy person

Before that it was thunder 149ers and everything else the same for years

I haven't tried them since they made them taller. I used to snap the pivots on them. Land on a trick, slam, pick up my board and my truck is parallel with the deck hahah

Maybe I gotta get back on the thunder train, and outta the madness thread

[pointandclick]

modus phillips hardware 7/8
bones super swiss 6
rotate between 440s/306s lately
only skated busenitz pros for 10 years from when they launched, not currently skating them due to some knee/patellar tendon issues and need a flatter shoes, but always staples for me.

[JM]

Landed here after about 3 years of doing the same thing:

Mob or Jessup.  (Need to try Pepper, but all good if I never do)

DLX 8.5 x 14.38 WB (I think I’m cool with any Roman numeral now… but do still measure the angle on nose and tail, and seem to do better with III and IV)
(previously 8.25 x 14.38wb, but only now trying the 8.5 and it’s amazing and perfect and beautiful)
(The 14.38 is just the sweet spot)

Indy 149 titanium
(I’m all skatepark ledge steel, so the trucks last forever)

Bones Swiss bearings (normal 7 ball)
(These also last forever)

53mm Bones x99 V5
(Can trust these will be around for a long time)

And it all gives abuse to these amazing Grasshoppers.

[swongolianbbq]

Mob or Jessup.  (Need to try Pepper, but all good if I never do)

I originally only used Jessup. Tried some black magic, didn't like it. The backing felt like a trash bag and would get all stringy on the edges after skating for a while. Tried mob when it came out, didn't like it. It seemed to lose grip/get dirty and slippery pretty fast. Switched to Jessup ultra when that came out, and used Jessup ultra for years straight. Started skating pepper g5 last year. Pepper is the most durable and easiest to work with tape I've ever used, for sure. Had one sheet of mob and one sheet of Jessup after trying pepper and it confirmed it for me. Never thought I'd be this picky about grip, and it took me a while to try it, but moving towns and the local shop only has pepper or mob, so that's how I got started on pepper. It's good stuff

[SwitchBenihana]

Shop Board (control 8.5" twin x 14.25")
Indy 149
F4 RF 56mm 99a
Bones Swiss
NB# 306

You have posted way too many setups and musings in the Madness and gear threads for us to believe this is a constant. I know I'm not there.

The sole constant I've got is F4. No point in anything else for me.

[Mbrimson88]

The sole constant I've got is F4. No point in anything else for me.

Funny you say that, because I guess that could also be the same for me, with all the things I have been trying, but maybe to add to that, the stability of my setups mean that I tweak and modify anything and everything to make them feel the way I like my setups to feel.

I could be on Indy, Thunder, Venture or even a few other trucks, but I would do things to them, or to the board to have them all sit about the same height, all turn about the same amount when I am on the board, change wheelbases by redrilling the truck baseplates or the decks, modify the bushings, cut down kingpins, etc.

Decks always BBS or at the very least "BBS like concave" such as the DLX China boards, usually DLX boards anyway, but not limited to just DLX brands.

Wheels yes always Spitfire wheels, almost all Formula Four, almost all wider worn down wheels I have reshaped to be fat / wider profile but rounder edged closer to the ground, mostly now between 50 and 54 mm but started closer to 54 to 58 mm from new.

I had just been on Indy standards for a good while, usually on the 8.38 or 8.5 decks, everything else pretty much the same, still could I guess, but having a set of T-II opened my eyes to having the trucks drilled in just that little bit more, so I have been doing that to other trucks now as well.

Maybe this should just be moved to the Madness thread, because it would probably be making others heads hurt, but everything works nicely on my setups and I know now exactly how to get to where I want to be, only taken 40 years to get here though.

[Llewellyn Moss]

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I originally only used Jessup. Tried some black magic, didn't like it. The backing felt like a trash bag and would get all stringy on the edges after skating for a while. Tried mob when it came out, didn't like it. It seemed to lose grip/get dirty and slippery pretty fast. Switched to Jessup ultra when that came out, and used Jessup ultra for years straight. Started skating pepper g5 last year. Pepper is the most durable and easiest to work with tape I've ever used, for sure. Had one sheet of mob and one sheet of Jessup after trying pepper and it confirmed it for me. Never thought I'd be this picky about grip, and it took me a while to try it, but moving towns and the local shop only has pepper or mob, so that's how I got started on pepper. It's good stuff

Early on, I graduated from Jessup to Jessup Ultra to Mob. The next pivotal moment was trying Pepper. Now it's Pepper for every deck. G5 feels directly in between Jessup and Mob in terms of grip strength. It wears less dramatically than Mob and holds its grip consistently better than both.

Pepper joins Spitfire, for me, as non-negotiables. Both prove their performance reliably every time.

Only other component that's been unchanged since 2020 is a twin deck aka my forever shape.

[JM]

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Mob or Jessup.  (Need to try Pepper, but all good if I never do)

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I originally only used Jessup. Tried some black magic, didn't like it. The backing felt like a trash bag and would get all stringy on the edges after skating for a while. Tried mob when it came out, didn't like it. It seemed to lose grip/get dirty and slippery pretty fast. Switched to Jessup ultra when that came out, and used Jessup ultra for years straight. Started skating pepper g5 last year. Pepper is the most durable and easiest to work with tape I've ever used, for sure. Had one sheet of mob and one sheet of Jessup after trying pepper and it confirmed it for me. Never thought I'd be this picky about grip, and it took me a while to try it, but moving towns and the local shop only has pepper or mob, so that's how I got started on pepper. It's good stuff

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Early on, I graduated from Jessup to Jessup Ultra to Mob. The next pivotal moment was trying Pepper. Now it's Pepper for every deck. G5 feels directly in between Jessup and Mob in terms of grip strength. It wears less dramatically than Mob and holds its grip consistently better than both.

Pepper joins Spitfire, for me, as non-negotiables. Both prove their performance reliably every time.

Only other component that's been unchanged since 2020 is a twin deck aka my forever shape.

F4’s are amazing no doubt. No need for anything else if the harder wheels don’t bother your joints.

And dang! I guess I need to try Pepper now after this Mob and/or deck wears out.

Just how distracting is the Galaxy G5? Bling bling

[DNTRODDEN]

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Mob or Jessup.  (Need to try Pepper, but all good if I never do)

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I originally only used Jessup. Tried some black magic, didn't like it. The backing felt like a trash bag and would get all stringy on the edges after skating for a while. Tried mob when it came out, didn't like it. It seemed to lose grip/get dirty and slippery pretty fast. Switched to Jessup ultra when that came out, and used Jessup ultra for years straight. Started skating pepper g5 last year. Pepper is the most durable and easiest to work with tape I've ever used, for sure. Had one sheet of mob and one sheet of Jessup after trying pepper and it confirmed it for me. Never thought I'd be this picky about grip, and it took me a while to try it, but moving towns and the local shop only has pepper or mob, so that's how I got started on pepper. It's good stuff

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Early on, I graduated from Jessup to Jessup Ultra to Mob. The next pivotal moment was trying Pepper. Now it's Pepper for every deck. G5 feels directly in between Jessup and Mob in terms of grip strength. It wears less dramatically than Mob and holds its grip consistently better than both.

Pepper joins Spitfire, for me, as non-negotiables. Both prove their performance reliably every time.

Only other component that's been unchanged since 2020 is a twin deck aka my forever shape.

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F4’s are amazing no doubt. No need for anything else if the harder wheels don’t bother your joints.

And dang! I guess I need to try Pepper now after this Mob and/or deck wears out.

Just how distracting is the Galaxy G5? Bling bling

I have it on one deck, its not distracting at all, I don't even notice it

[yungthug]

8.38 deck

Regular Indys

Formula Fours

Bones Reds

[Llewellyn Moss]

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Mob or Jessup.  (Need to try Pepper, but all good if I never do)

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I originally only used Jessup. Tried some black magic, didn't like it. The backing felt like a trash bag and would get all stringy on the edges after skating for a while. Tried mob when it came out, didn't like it. It seemed to lose grip/get dirty and slippery pretty fast. Switched to Jessup ultra when that came out, and used Jessup ultra for years straight. Started skating pepper g5 last year. Pepper is the most durable and easiest to work with tape I've ever used, for sure. Had one sheet of mob and one sheet of Jessup after trying pepper and it confirmed it for me. Never thought I'd be this picky about grip, and it took me a while to try it, but moving towns and the local shop only has pepper or mob, so that's how I got started on pepper. It's good stuff

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Early on, I graduated from Jessup to Jessup Ultra to Mob. The next pivotal moment was trying Pepper. Now it's Pepper for every deck. G5 feels directly in between Jessup and Mob in terms of grip strength. It wears less dramatically than Mob and holds its grip consistently better than both.

Pepper joins Spitfire, for me, as non-negotiables. Both prove their performance reliably every time.

Only other component that's been unchanged since 2020 is a twin deck aka my forever shape.

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F4’s are amazing no doubt. No need for anything else if the harder wheels don’t bother your joints.

And dang! I guess I need to try Pepper now after this Mob and/or deck wears out.

Just how distracting is the Galaxy G5? Bling bling

My short run on 93s didn't feel significantly different than 99s, on my joints. I'm not sold on that.

The loss of board feel with beefier shoes, which has a more measurable impact in lessening soreness, doesn't bother me as much as the loss in speed, momentum, slide, and grind when I tried the 93s.

I have the Galaxy G5 now and have seen it on others in the wild. It's eye catching but the speckles glint and are most apparent when direct light hits so it's not always full on projecting. I like it.