Out of the 20 years I’ve been skating, I’ve skated Indy about 15 of them. I ride Ace now and have been for a lil over a year because they grind and turn Incredibly out the box however I’ve broken a pair and I’ve lost a wheel mid hill bomb with the replacement pair they sent to me. I’m about eight months in on my third pair and they’ve been treating me amazing. However, Ace’s metal seems way more shitty and seems to grind down WAY quicker than Indy imo.