Grosso wearing a Skrewdriver tee

[DevinSB]

I'm bummed

http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/trash/love-letters-to-skateboarding-handplant/#ooid=82ZXYxMjqKJJZkYOL1iPS2w_g3RXYYyz

"their first record's not racist"


fuuuuck that, skrewdriver sucks, and it blows that jeff grosso would let himself be filmed wearing such offensive shit. oh well, maybe he thinks it's funny, maybe he's a bonehead. i think it's time that skateboarders stop following skateboarding like a reality tv show though, it'd be rad if we all got back to riding skateboards, and talking about riding skateboards

[Egon Spangler]

Skrewdrivers first album is pretty good OI punk without the racist stuff. Still a sketch shirt choice.

Fuck yeah "All Skrewed Up" is a fucking awesome punk record.  no racist shit .

[icybear187]

One of the best things about the Slap messageboard to me is reading peoples extremely warped take on things they have read and watched.  It also shows the little bubble most of you live in.

None of you know anything about Grosso or Jessee.

In the prison system white and mexicans both are against blacks.  Nazi Lowriders are an aryan/mexican subsect of the AB.

Skrewdriver's first album is great.  Also a fun fact, there is only one remaining member from the first albums line up that went on to carry the name and make WP based music.

If the shirt someone is wearing gets you that worked up, get a life, there are REAL issues in this world.

[Bobby Peru]

Late Skrewdriver is an easy push button. Grosso pushed it and y'all are outraged.

But what about Clapton, David Bowie, Morrissey, Jedi Mind Tricks or rampant homophobia in dancehall?

You judge Burzum by Varg's later prison odinist-norge-racism, but would you wear a t-shirt depicting a young James Brown? Ridiculous myth-based anti-immigrant Racism is worse than repeated actual violence against women?

I love early Stones but don't want to see Mick and Keith in concert in 2011. Under My Thumb may have hateful lyrics if you take them seriously, but it's a better song than anyone reading this will ever write; and how do you square it up against Jagger's probable bisexuality?
VU was great on record in '66-70, but Lou Reed is a total jerk at the dinner table in 2011. Neil loves Reagan and biodiesel. Dylan was a born again for a while, Hetfield is stuck in late-90s Orange County rockabilly car culture and the Five Percent Nation is total bullshit.

I have a feeling you guys have never (attempted to) have a conversation with a musician.

I've been in various punk bands and I'm aware of some of the ignorant shit people can push. I agree that there's a hierarchy that doesn't really make sense, but I think anybody with some kind of power/attention needs to get called out on their bullshit, racist, sexist, whatever. I never said I'm not still a fan of Grosso. I just think it sucks that he's wearing that shirt.

there are REAL issues in this world.

Perpetuation of racist tendencies is one of them.

I didn't think the thread would get this long. I've said all I need to and I'm done after this.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

you know, for me the thing is, even if something was awesome some time ago, i would never wear or rep something that is lame/WP/Mike Vallely nowadays. best example for me would be PlanB, i mean, before they started the new thing i wouldnt have thought one second before wearing a shirt or something from them, nowadays.... you get the idea. thats the same for me with many things (bands, brands, schmands)

[SOFT 7]

I'm always surprised how liberally "faggot" gets thrown around on the slap boards. Why is Grosso wearing an 'All Skrewed Up' shirt such an issue?

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

I'm always surprised how liberally "faggot" gets thrown around on the slap boards. Why is Grosso wearing an 'All Skrewed Up' shirt such an issue?

hating gays and muslims is still socially acceptable to many... at least there is some progress.

[sixpackoftablets]

Hey guys - it is 1990. I'm in the suburbs pissed off about Skrewdriver t-shirts and apartheid, even though I've never seen a nazi skin or a South African.  And what is a "muslim?"

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

Hey guys - it is 1990. I'm in the suburbs pissed off about Skrewdriver t-shirts and apartheid, even though I've never seen a nazi skin or a South African.  And what is a "muslim?"

The amount of stupid in your post is so incredible that if I had to explain it, it would be pages long. Let's just put it this way: your pathetic attempt to sound smart makes you sound really really stupid. Do you really think that racism is an issue that only relates to apartheid and is now over? I hope not. Your attempt to sound intellectual makes you look like a complete idiot.

[sixpackoftablets]

I think you maybe quoted the wrong person because you seem to be arguing against stuff I didn't say. OH right - that is you typical MO.

I will say that stressing out about Skrewdriver is decades out of date. It's like a weird retro-pose or something. Maybe that's Grosso's point: 45yo vert dudes getting heated over 80s stuff.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

I think you maybe quoted the wrong person because you seem to be arguing against stuff I didn't say. OH right - that is you typical MO.

I will say that stressing out about Skrewdriver is decades out of date. It's like a weird retro-pose or something. Maybe that's Grosso's point: 45yo vert dudes getting heated over 80s stuff.

You seem confused, let me explain: Skrewdriver still is a huge band with nazi skinhead types. Even if the band has broken up, wearing skrewdriver shirt is still throwing out a sign, that's why most normal record stores don't carry that shit at all, even if its not 1990 and apartheid is over.
I really have no idea what you are trying to prove at this point, but it sounds like you are some pathetic kid who idolizes Grosso, thinks he can do no wrong, and provides rationalizations that he has never given (in bold in case you deny it).

[Hexagon]

http://skate.ly/library/videos/anti-hero-skateboards-two-songs#1369

One of the two songs in the "Two Song Video" was screwdriver.

so according to a lot of the train of thought im seeing here, one could equate anti hero being pro nazi for using a Skrewdriver song? wheres all the baggage for using that track years ago... wait... there is NONE. know why? cause its music... from the bands best era. chances are Julian Stranger likes ol' skrewdriver does that make him a shit and a racist?  probably not.

in short its a fucking shirt. if you use clothes to define your statements to the world and yourself as a person.... you should consider taking medicine. I'm not defending nazism, etc. But acting like a SHARP or telling one what is ok and what isn't... really isn't anyone's place. Now if the dude had SS bolts and a plethora of white power tats and wears them with pride (added with spewing white pride rhetoric many times over  ) then you have another issue. I don't see how this dude being interviewed over handplants equates to him being pro-racist,etc. Besides hes  possibly following the punk ethos and just pissing a lot of people off by simply not giving a fuck. Thats what I took away from it (regarding the shirt), but the main thing I took away from the clip as a whole. was the dudes love for hand plants.

[Alan]

If you're wearing a Skrewdriver shirt you are sending a message, deliberately or not.

[InternetDaddy]

reviving this thread to make a point that I'm surprised wasn't brought up: How many of you ride Indy's and/or own an Indy t-shirt? The iron cross was a Nazi war medal, but no-one's getting butthurt over that. If he intended the shirt to be a racist statement, well, then that's really shitty but oh well. More likely, however, he just really liked "all skrewed up" and figured since the band is broken up and Ian Stuart is dead it didn't really matter anymore.

[spare change]

In the indy built to grind book it was mentioned that the cross was actually derived from the one the pope wears.

[William Jefferson Clinton]

Racism sucks, judge one by his character, not by the color of his skin.
Rest In Peace Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968

[InternetDaddy]

In the indy built to grind book it was mentioned that the cross was actually derived from the one the pope wears.

ah, I wasn't aware. i figured they hadn't based their brand image off of a nazi award but i still think it's a fair comparison given the subject of the thread.

[Beer Keg Peg Leg]

didn't you post a bunch of skin head music on your last account austin? god i fucking hate you.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

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In the indy built to grind book it was mentioned that the cross was actually derived from the one the pope wears.

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ah, I wasn't aware. i figured they hadn't based their brand image off of a nazi award but i still think it's a fair comparison given the subject of the thread.

not really.

[William Jefferson Clinton]

didn't you post a bunch of skin head music on your last account austin? god i fucking hate you.

no, for the last time.