Spitfire formula four

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New Ishod wheels announced on Spit's IG

53 & 55mm F4's

[JimmyFive]

What's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too

[BALARGUE]

What's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too

i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... 

Stock up fellas

[rawbertson.]

ohhh i thought radials were the slim ones but i am thinking actually Radial Slims. radials are actually the same width as the conical fulls, i thought they were skinnier but they just have a more aggressive cut. that does actually seem like a pretty good wheel. idk i just love the conical full that is perfect wheel for me. the radials and classics both seem like they would work for me if no conical fulls were available(i imagine i have rode these shapes in Bones and OJ / maybe even currently riding them on my other setups) but why even bother switching when this is the exact thing i like the best.

[radcunt]

Just got some 54 classics in 99a. Smallest wheel I’ve had in years, but was shocked at the skinny riding surface. Will see how we go, [size=78%]setting up my first Popsicle in over 10 years. [/size]

[rawbertson.]

classics look kinda like donuts
i just cant stand tall skinny, i like the way chunky looks. i was all about that tablet shape for like 10 years becuase i was only skating perfect skatepark plazas and skating in completely straight lines. they work amazing for that type of skating. i never see people rocking them anymore. maybe tre williams

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What's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too

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i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... 

Stock up fellas

at my local the prices of the new arrived ones are are sometimes even 75euro. thats just fucked up.

i should be getting some new wheels soon. thinking of trying some classics since all i skate are curbs these days and i only got the most square wheels they offer right now. Tablets and OG classics.

[Mbrimson88]

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What's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too

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i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... 

Stock up fellas

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at my local the prices of the new arrived ones are are sometimes even 75euro. thats just fucked up.

i should be getting some new wheels soon. thinking of trying some classics since all i skate are curbs these days and i only got the most square wheels they offer right now. Tablets and OG classics.

Re OG Classics, especially the 58 and 60mm sizes - I didn't see replies earlier but somewhere back in this thread (or another one) people had asked DLX and the response was they will make more in the first quarter of 2023, so should be available again just before mid year.

I would rather quote the person, so if anyone finds it, or was that person, please repost the answer again.

Thanks.

[moonordie]

Love my GT OG classics 53mm, my local here in CZ still have them on sale

[switchfrontshuv]

Love my GT OG classics 53mm, my local here in CZ still have them on sale

53mm at your grown age *giggles*

[Frank and Fred]

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Love my GT OG classics 53mm, my local here in CZ still have them on sale

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53mm at your grown age *giggles*

What's the age limit on what size wheels? Please respond very quickly as I have some 50mm and 60mms set up right now and I am deep into middle age with very little time to spare.

[Sedition]

Really wish 53mm Rad Slims became a regular thing again...

[JimmyFive]

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What's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too

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i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... 

Stock up fellas

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at my local the prices of the new arrived ones are are sometimes even 75euro. thats just fucked up.

i should be getting some new wheels soon. thinking of trying some classics since all i skate are curbs these days and i only got the most square wheels they offer right now. Tablets and OG classics.

[close]

Re OG Classics, especially the 58 and 60mm sizes - I didn't see replies earlier but somewhere back in this thread (or another one) people had asked DLX and the response was they will make more in the first quarter of 2023, so should be available again just before mid year.

I would rather quote the person, so if anyone finds it, or was that person, please repost the answer again.

Thanks.

Sweet, I hope so! Thanks for the heads up! Till then I'll be on conical full/conical

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What's happened to the F4 OG Classic's? Have they been discontinued? I would love to find a set, 58mm for mainly transition. Live in NZ. Some products don't make it all the way down here... They look like a great medium between conical full and classic. Graphics look sick too

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i really like them but yeah they seem discontinued unfortunately
nowhere to be found in Sprind D1 & D2 catalogs, Summer D1 catalog neither
I'll check the dims later but lock-Ins Full are coming (Summer Drop) and might be a good alternative
I'll miss the swirl on those OG Classics
Here in France, new stock prices are now 65€ and will be 70€ on next drop... 

Stock up fellas

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at my local the prices of the new arrived ones are are sometimes even 75euro. thats just fucked up.

i should be getting some new wheels soon. thinking of trying some classics since all i skate are curbs these days and i only got the most square wheels they offer right now. Tablets and OG classics.

[close]

Re OG Classics, especially the 58 and 60mm sizes - I didn't see replies earlier but somewhere back in this thread (or another one) people had asked DLX and the response was they will make more in the first quarter of 2023, so should be available again just before mid year.

I would rather quote the person, so if anyone finds it, or was that person, please repost the answer again.

Thanks.

there is hope

[fakiefs180]

What is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.

[Firebert]

What is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.

OG Classics

[swellbowed]

What is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.

Lil Smokies are available in Concial Full 50mm
https://www.studioskatesupply.com/f4-99-lil-smokies-conical-full-50mm-wheels.html

[Jacob DeGrosso]

Would love to see an OG classic release in 97a. 58s in 97 might be the perfect wheel for crusty town romps.

[Frank and Fred]

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What is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.

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Lil Smokies are available in Concial Full 50mm
https://www.studioskatesupply.com/f4-99-lil-smokies-conical-full-50mm-wheels.html

Lil Smokies seem way better in a 101 than a 99 to me. I think when you start going 50mm and under its better to go hard.

[Mbrimson88]

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What is like the smallest wheel with the widest riding surface? Something like a Radial in 50mm would be hella cool I think.

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OG Classics

That was funny, because I thought "Surely not as the OG Classic is not as wide as some wheels" but as per the chart, yes the 52mm is 21.5mm in contact, so you are correct.

Just funny cause to look at them in person, they are not as wide as the Conical Full but have way less rounding on the edges.


As to the initial question, as people have said, Conical Full is being made in 50mm so if you were to get wheels that were as small as possible to start with, that might be the best option.

I like to get wheels of medium to larger size and wear them down, so even older 56mm Classics which are 35mm wide and have almost 30mm of riding surface now are good in that category, but either taking the time to wear them down or doing swaps and trades with people who prefer bigger Classics is a good way to get smaller wider wheels.

If you don't want to wait or have no one to trade with, then you are limited to whatever is available in shops from new.

[moonordie]

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Love my GT OG classics 53mm, my local here in CZ still have them on sale

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53mm at your grown age *giggles*

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What's the age limit on what size wheels? Please respond very quickly as I have some 50mm and 60mms set up right now and I am deep into middle age with very little time to spare.

This cracked a big laugh in here.

[goodatmeth]

Did spitfire stop putting the little sticker with the wheel size on? Homie just got conical full 54mm and all they have is a little sticker on the back with the barcode, wheel info, made in mexico...

Packaging and wheels look perfect otherwise

[Murge]

@Mbrimson88  I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular  conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered  do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?

[Sedition]

@Mbrimson88  I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular  conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered  do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?

Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:

[144p]

Did spitfire stop putting the little sticker with the wheel size on? Homie just got conical full 54mm and all they have is a little sticker on the back with the barcode, wheel info, made in mexico...

Packaging and wheels look perfect otherwise

Those stickers easily fall off. If you check the dlx sku/barcode it should have the size at the end of the name/description, or printed on the actual wheel.

[Murge]

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@Mbrimson88  I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular  conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered  do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?

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Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:

Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.

[Sedition]

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@Mbrimson88  I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular  conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered  do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?

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Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:

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Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.

Glad to be of help!

[Mbrimson88]

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@Mbrimson88  I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular  conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered  do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?

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Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:

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Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.

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Glad to be of help!

Ha yeah, better than anything I could give you.

But for real, Classics once worn down a couple of mm just feel so much better, wider contact area and still more rounded sidewall feel like the best of both worlds to me.

Others say Classics slip out to easily or they can never lock into anything, so they ride Conical Full wheels, so I guess more than anything it is just down to what you are used to and how much you push into things / rely on that wheel edge to stop or keep going, etc.

Compared to any other wheel shape, Classics are still the easiest to get too, which make my choice not so hard, but I have Radials in 53 and 54 from new, as well as a lot of used Conical Full wheels from swaps that I round off the edges a bit and they are nice to ride too, mainly 54mm Conical Fulls now around 50-52mm but I still love the feeling of new 56 Classic or Classic Full wheels on park and transition more than anything - just set up some more recently and although they feel too big for smaller tech stuff, they just work for everything else.

[switchfakie]

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@Mbrimson88  I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular  conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered  do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?

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Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:

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Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.

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Glad to be of help!

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Ha yeah, better than anything I could give you.

But for real, Classics once worn down a couple of mm just feel so much better, wider contact area and still more rounded sidewall feel like the best of both worlds to me.

Others say Classics slip out to easily or they can never lock into anything, so they ride Conical Full wheels, so I guess more than anything it is just down to what you are used to and how much you push into things / rely on that wheel edge to stop or keep going, etc.

Compared to any other wheel shape, Classics are still the easiest to get too, which make my choice not so hard, but I have Radials in 53 and 54 from new, as well as a lot of used Conical Full wheels from swaps that I round off the edges a bit and they are nice to ride too, mainly 54mm Conical Fulls now around 50-52mm but I still love the feeling of new 56 Classic or Classic Full wheels on park and transition more than anything - just set up some more recently and although they feel too big for smaller tech stuff, they just work for everything else.

at that point just get the radial slims

they're slim like the classics, but out the box have a wider contact patch

[Sedition]

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@Mbrimson88  I been skating 55 classics and they are maybe 54-53mm now. Love them. Slipped out of crooks with them and so madness made me put on some regular  conicals. My flip tricks seem to have suffered  do you think this is cause the classic rounded shape lets me roll and flick easier or is this just in my head? Is this why you prefer worn classics it’s like a rounded wheel with a wide surface ?

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Worn-down Classics = radials. As to crooks, I find the curved edge of classics to be better for locking into crooks than a pointy edge like Conicals. And yes, rounded edge allows board to destabilize (e.g. flip) sooner than more squared-off wheels. This does a good job of explaining it:

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Thank you for the helpful response. That all makes a lot of sense. I’m gonna throw my classics back on. Gnarred.

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Glad to be of help!

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Ha yeah, better than anything I could give you.

But for real, Classics once worn down a couple of mm just feel so much better, wider contact area and still more rounded sidewall feel like the best of both worlds to me.

Others say Classics slip out to easily or they can never lock into anything, so they ride Conical Full wheels, so I guess more than anything it is just down to what you are used to and how much you push into things / rely on that wheel edge to stop or keep going, etc.

Compared to any other wheel shape, Classics are still the easiest to get too, which make my choice not so hard, but I have Radials in 53 and 54 from new, as well as a lot of used Conical Full wheels from swaps that I round off the edges a bit and they are nice to ride too, mainly 54mm Conical Fulls now around 50-52mm but I still love the feeling of new 56 Classic or Classic Full wheels on park and transition more than anything - just set up some more recently and although they feel too big for smaller tech stuff, they just work for everything else.

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at that point just get the radial slims

they're slim like the classics, but out the box have a wider contact patch

Radial Slims and Classic Fulls were rad. Wish they were both regularly available again in the assorted standard sizes. Nice to dream.