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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5190 on: June 18, 2023, 10:22:13 PM »
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Correct. Here's a glimpse of the 90s tablets.


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These look sick. It would be cool if they still did the side cut instead of the flat side profile that they do now
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The thing is the OG Classic appears to be that wheel shape, as in it is a squared off wheel, not wide in profile like some of the others, with a cutaway area like they have with the swirl graphic, so although the name and formula might have changed a bit, the actual shape of the wheel is much the same as per the wheels back then.

Check out some OG Classics if you haven't seen them in person, because that is what they look like.  Comparing their dimensions from the Spitfire site too, they are not that different, between 1 - 2 mm wider in wheel width and riding surface from Tablet to OG Classic, but as you said, without the flat side profile.


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/wheel-shapes/



Those old Thrasher mags they put up in their entirety are amazing to see too!

I thought about that right after I hit post. OG classics are my favorite wheels.

Also that full shape in that ad looks nice too. Pretty close to the Bones P5/V5 shape
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5191 on: June 19, 2023, 01:29:51 AM »

On a tangent, dang man, it’s been a sec since I looked at that catalog you linked

I had no idea lock-ins we’re wider than conical fulls

I really wish they made 58-60 mm lock ins, that would be heavenly


The Spitfire sizes page has just been updated, mainly to showcase the two new shapes in the Full range, but they also dropped a few other styles from the main area.

I think others were saying some measurements had changed as well, but the older Lock ins that I have are not that wide.

Example from some that I do have and know:

The 55 mm 99 duro Lock ins are now listed as 35.9 wide with a 23.5 riding surface.  The ones I have are what is shown on the old spec page, as was on the back of the cards that come with the wheels, so my older ones are 55 mm in diameter, 33 mm wide with a 23 mm riding surface.

The set I have are a very minimal edge and just a completely flat back, like Tablets, whereas pics of the new ones had a much more rounded back to them, which I thought interesting too, when they were shown and shop people who have them have said they are way more round now when they look at them.


Almost everything is trending to wider wheels, but the Classics are still fairly even, with the 60 mm size previously being 39 mm wide, but are now listed as only 37 mm, so I am curious to see them in person too.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5192 on: June 19, 2023, 03:41:36 PM »
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Wasn’t there another run of tablets before the current iteration (not the old school ones, after those)?
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I put this in the middle of a whole lot of other info on the last page, most likely got lost as I often type too much and people don't read it all, but yes, in 2013 when the Formula Four first came out.

I still have the marketing blurb from them too, which was cool to see.



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Random question for the Spitfire historians here in the chat. When were Tablets introduced (2019?)? Was there a Tablet-like Spitfire wheel in the 90s? I swear at one point I rode Tablets for a while but maybe they were a different blocky Spitfire wheel.
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When Spitfire first brought out the Formula Four in 2013, they had four options, Classic 99 duro, Full 99, Classic 101 and Tablet 101, again not quite the same shape as is now, but very similar, in that it was flat sided with minimal curved corners.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5193 on: June 20, 2023, 04:34:58 PM »
Anyone have information on the Spitfire Sapphires that are now arriving in shops?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5194 on: June 20, 2023, 04:57:30 PM »
I am super curious, came out of no where. Have a core, wonder if they slide?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5195 on: June 20, 2023, 05:57:00 PM »
i'm sorry the what nows?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5196 on: June 20, 2023, 06:06:55 PM »
I feel like they did the OJ dual duro thing correctly. For those who have dealt with bearing slippage and plastic cores were a solution, yeah I need that hard inner duro and softer outer. Not the other way around. Truly clear would be cooler though. Not that blue color.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5197 on: June 20, 2023, 06:28:30 PM »
So these are like a reverse dual duro, not quite dragon, not quite cruiser, maybe filmer but a bit too hard, clear for some reason... Wow, not sure what these are for? Not meant to be a criticism, but I'm genuinely curious what these would be for?

I suppose with how spitfire and Bones duro ratings differ, these should be pretty in line with Dragon hardness.

If they slide then they're on to something, but if they don't then what would they be for? Guess we'll find out.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5198 on: June 20, 2023, 07:05:10 PM »
Sick. I'm pretty much a sucker for any and all Spitfire wheels so I will likely try these. However, the 88a to 98a durometer zone has been a bit of a no man's land since the early 90s. So they have their work cut of for them. What will they do better than 80HDs?

I am presuming these might be a really fast cruiser type wheel like the Rica 86a clouds or Keyframes. I am also a sucker for clear urethane.

Will cop.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5199 on: June 20, 2023, 07:49:56 PM »
Yeah def want. Thinking orange 54mm range for the aces no risers

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5200 on: June 20, 2023, 08:37:16 PM »
i'm sorry the what nows?

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What shop did you see this in?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5201 on: June 20, 2023, 09:20:07 PM »
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i'm sorry the what nows?

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What shop did you see this in?

that pic is from calskate, they have all the sizes except the 54s i think

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5202 on: June 20, 2023, 09:23:22 PM »
Oh shit. Cal Skate is one of my locals. Thanks!

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5203 on: June 20, 2023, 10:29:06 PM »
damn look forward to trying those. i was just shooting the shit today at the local park about how much i love spits but the cruisers aren't that special. any idea as to when they hit shops?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5204 on: June 20, 2023, 11:28:45 PM »
so i don't math a lot but isn't the 101 core gonna make these harder than 90?




also, i really want to see the purple ones, someone show me the purple ones! please!

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5205 on: June 20, 2023, 11:35:04 PM »
Why this kind of new wheel? There are loads of great cruiser options already, and the Powell Dragons have changed the game in actually really skateable softer wheels. For the ones who like the cheesy candy aesthetic?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5206 on: June 21, 2023, 07:15:11 AM »
damn look forward to trying those. i was just shooting the shit today at the local park about how much i love spits but the cruisers aren't that special. any idea as to when they hit shops?

Cal's are shipping them on June 26th.
Why this kind of new wheel? There are loads of great cruiser options already, and the Powell Dragons have changed the game in actually really skateable softer wheels. For the ones who like the cheesy candy aesthetic?

Spitfire has been lacking in the cruiser wheel game for a bit and people seem to be really into softer options these days.  I bet they've been working on these for awhile. In saying all that the new 80HDs are pretty damn nice.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5207 on: June 21, 2023, 08:03:09 AM »
so i don't math a lot but isn't the 101 core gonna make these harder than 90?




also, i really want to see the purple ones, someone show me the purple ones! please!


Link with stock photo:
https://calsk8.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-sapphires-90du-purple-58mm-wheels

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5208 on: June 21, 2023, 08:13:17 AM »
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so i don't math a lot but isn't the 101 core gonna make these harder than 90?

also, i really want to see the purple ones, someone show me the purple ones! please!
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Link with stock photo:
https://calsk8.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-sapphires-90du-purple-58mm-wheels

Oh good find.

Nothing about "slide" or anything in Sapphires product description.

To compare "OJ Keyframe, 87a - A harder soft wheel great for cruising, sliding or filming lines as they're a bit faster than some of the softer varieties."

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5209 on: June 21, 2023, 09:41:42 AM »
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More than anything a soft wheel needs a harder core to keep the bearings in position, so having anything like 90 duro would definitely benefit from a more normal core.

The colour, or more specifically the see through nature makes them way more interesting to the people who like "shiny things" of which I would see many every day in the usual shop situation, when I was there before covid.  Nothing against those people - it is just one of those things, but having a product like this will usually sell more units to people who are more interested in having a cool looking cruiser wheel, than if they were just a white or natural urethane colour.


Although the cruiser wheel market might have a lot of good wheels, Spitfire only had the regular wheels in look and shape, with their 101, 99, 97 and even in the 80 HD which were a little limited in what you could do with them, but still skated well in many situations.

Something more in the 90 duro range is a lot more versatile, even though some people might not be that keen, but most 90 duro wheels I have tried can still slide if you push them hard enough, but more than anything will not usually slip out, no matter how slippery the ramp is, as well as being good to get over whatever ground from A to B.


I am curious to hear and see more, but as I have seen already, some people are keen, others maybe more reserved, but they are something new, so given the chance, I would be interested to have a roll on some and see what they have come up with this time.

Just wait and see, I guess.

Everything takes longer to get out here to Australia, but at least by then most people have posted their takes on the product from USA which I like to see and read and I don't mind the wait really.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5210 on: June 21, 2023, 12:20:58 PM »
I skated this new spot with brand new asphalt and found that my CF 99s are quite slippery there. Actually to the point I found it annoying. Would it be worth getting the 97s instead and maybe a wider wheel like Radial Full?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5211 on: June 21, 2023, 12:25:13 PM »
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so i don't math a lot but isn't the 101 core gonna make these harder than 90?




also, i really want to see the purple ones, someone show me the purple ones! please!
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Link with stock photo:
https://calsk8.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-wheels-sapphires-90du-purple-58mm-wheels


thanks so much man. i got a new job gonna celebrate by getting a set of these soon!
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5212 on: June 21, 2023, 01:56:37 PM »
Pals,

I've been wondering why most people recommend spitfire conical fulls for bowl skaters when in fact when I look at transition skaters like Grosso (RIP), Hewitt, Ronnie Sandoval, Jimmy Wilkens, Omar Hasasan (just to name a few) all rock spitfire classics between 55 and 58 mm. Been on CF's forever but those purple classics look soooo good.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5214 on: June 21, 2023, 03:28:59 PM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5215 on: June 21, 2023, 04:06:49 PM »
they look delicious

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5216 on: June 21, 2023, 04:10:07 PM »
I skated this new spot with brand new asphalt and found that my CF 99s are quite slippery there. Actually to the point I found it annoying. Would it be worth getting the 97s instead and maybe a wider wheel like Radial Full?
Go for 97s if you want more grip.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5217 on: June 21, 2023, 04:25:23 PM »



that's interesting, looks like the wheel is clear and the core is what colors the wheel.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5218 on: June 21, 2023, 04:59:01 PM »



that's interesting, looks like the wheel is clear and the core is what colors the wheel.

Those look killer.

I wish they was F4 tho.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5219 on: June 21, 2023, 07:58:10 PM »
Oh shit. Cal Skate is one of my locals. Thanks!

np - if you grab some, i'm curious what you think. i'm around pdx too so i'm curious how they handle/what they are good for