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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1830 on: January 21, 2019, 09:58:03 AM »
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Color doesn't look like F4 at all.  ???
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Probably just a filter on the photo - like b&w

My gut tells me that the old school "yellow" colour is added to the formula. They just don't bother adding it to samples.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1831 on: January 21, 2019, 12:04:41 PM »
I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1832 on: January 21, 2019, 12:17:55 PM »
I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)

The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1833 on: January 21, 2019, 12:23:20 PM »
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I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
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I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)

The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...

Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1834 on: January 21, 2019, 07:52:37 PM »
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I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
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I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)

The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...
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Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.

That’s a pretty good theory actually.  I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.



Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1835 on: January 21, 2019, 09:14:28 PM »
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Color doesn't look like F4 at all.  ???
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Probably just a filter on the photo - like b&w
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My gut tells me that the old school "yellow" colour is added to the formula. They just don't bother adding it to samples.

Seems counter-intuitive to me. "Lets add a slight amount of yellow pigment to make our best selling wheels look old right out of the gate!" Nah, it's gotta be the natural color of the urethane formula they developed.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1836 on: January 21, 2019, 09:20:19 PM »
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Color doesn't look like F4 at all.  ???
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Probably just a filter on the photo - like b&w
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My gut tells me that the old school "yellow" colour is added to the formula. They just don't bother adding it to samples.
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Seems counter-intuitive to me. "Lets add a slight amount of yellow pigment to make our best selling wheels look old right out of the gate!" Nah, it's gotta be the natural color of the urethane formula they developed.

Doubtful. If anything Bones add more white pigment to their wheels. Urethane is naturally a clear yellowish color from what I've heard.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1837 on: January 21, 2019, 09:28:22 PM »
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I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
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I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)

The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...
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Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.
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That’s a pretty good theory actually.  I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.



Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.
No joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1838 on: January 21, 2019, 11:59:00 PM »
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I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
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I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)

The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...
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Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.
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That’s a pretty good theory actually.  I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.



Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.
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No joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.
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europe's like the capitol of england and france and whatever

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1839 on: January 22, 2019, 12:52:58 AM »
that was the Japanese version with room ports for the disk drive no?
OG NES was different too!

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1840 on: January 22, 2019, 03:03:21 AM »
that was the Japanese version with room ports for the disk drive no?
OG NES was different too!
Nah mine was just a regular european version, fucking weird that different regions had different desings back then... They even had different controllers for us & eu versions😳
europe's like the capitol of england and france and whatever

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1841 on: January 22, 2019, 04:44:51 AM »
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that was the Japanese version with room ports for the disk drive no?
OG NES was different too!
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Nah mine was just a regular european version, fucking weird that different regions had different desings back then... They even had different controllers for us & eu versions😳

Was it really that small? 🤔 I never had one but a friend of mine did, so I’ve played with one a bunch. I remember it not being much smaller than the NES.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1842 on: January 22, 2019, 05:50:20 AM »
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that was the Japanese version with room ports for the disk drive no?
OG NES was different too!
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Nah mine was just a regular european version, fucking weird that different regions had different desings back then... They even had different controllers for us & eu versions😳
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Was it really that small? 🤔 I never had one but a friend of mine did, so I’ve played with one a bunch. I remember it not being much smaller than the NES.
That is new mini version on that pic, OG was way bigger but design is still the same.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1843 on: January 22, 2019, 06:57:27 AM »
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I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
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I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)

The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...
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Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.
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That’s a pretty good theory actually.  I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.
Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.
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No joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.
I think it is a combination of sunlight and age. I know that both factors change the color - didn't think that it might also affect hardness.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1844 on: January 22, 2019, 06:16:07 PM »
didn't think that it might also affect hardness.

I've always maintained that older wheels harden up in storage which is why i get them ahead of time and leave them in my spare parts box, i've gotten so used to the aged yellow it doesnt bother me anymore

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1845 on: January 23, 2019, 07:32:22 AM »
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I swear the last two sets of f4’s I’ve gotten have been noticably whiter than they used to be.
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I got a set from No-Comply(54mm) that was super yellow, and a set from Humidity(52mm) that was pretty white - same formula (4) and hardness (99a) and shape (classic.) (Maybe no-comply stores the wheels closer to the window?)

The really weird thing is that the Humidity ones don't make that screech noise when you slide them and the No-Comply ones are extra screechy. I'm curious as to what exactly goes into that famous formula 4...
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Do you have any clue to the age of each set of wheels? I've heard that wheels do tend to yellow and harden with time, though the packaging should provide some sort of protection from that I would think.
[close]

That’s a pretty good theory actually.  I wonder if it’s the same kind of thing that happens with old Super Nintendos.



Of course, I could be way off since I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about.
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No joke, this was what I was thinking. Also, my last set of F4s was for sure more white than brown.
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Damn that US version of Super Nintendo looks funky😳 Quick look and I thought it was some view-master at first 😂
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1846 on: February 18, 2019, 05:50:26 AM »
So a trick I do a lot is 5050 front board but I wonder if the lock ins would make that tough.
Like twould be so locked in, when I turn, the board wouldn't turn like I want?
Does anyone know if that would in face be the case If I got lock ins?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1847 on: February 18, 2019, 07:18:41 AM »
So a trick I do a lot is 5050 front board but I wonder if the lock ins would make that tough.
Like twould be so locked in, when I turn, the board wouldn't turn like I want?
Does anyone know if that would in face be the case If I got lock ins?

Bro, no it wont be a problem. Might need to pop/shifty ever so slightly harder. Lock ins tend to lock in a bit more but not to the point where you'll lose tricks because it locks in to much.

Damn could swear that I've slipped out more with lock ins than classics but thats just my skating not the wheels. Performs just like any wheel but if you are stalling a 50 and momentum allows you to rest in at the correct angle on the wheel it will hold a bit more than a classic.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1848 on: April 03, 2019, 02:41:11 PM »
Im on a new set of 99 conical

I made a mental list and realized I haven’t skated the same size/shape/duro more than once over 8 sets in 5 yrs

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1849 on: April 03, 2019, 03:31:51 PM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1850 on: April 03, 2019, 08:44:16 PM »
haha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1851 on: April 03, 2019, 08:45:25 PM »
All urethane is that brownish (natural) color.  White pigment  has to be added to the mix to make the wheel white.

They offer their wheels in white or the natural brownish color (along with the swirls and other colors).

I thought this had been covered before.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1852 on: April 03, 2019, 09:52:54 PM »
The reason SNES turned brown like that is because of the bromine in the chemical mixture of the plastic for the case being too high on certain batches. Bromine in that usage is a flame retardant and is added to hot running plastic stuff to lower the chance that it could catch fire. I remembered there was a really specific reason why a lot of them turned brown but I had to look it up again for this post. Dork facts out.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1853 on: April 04, 2019, 11:09:58 AM »
The reason SNES turned brown like that is because of the bromine in the chemical mixture of the plastic for the case being too high on certain batches. Bromine in that usage is a flame retardant and is added to hot running plastic stuff to lower the chance that it could catch fire. I remembered there was a really specific reason why a lot of them turned brown but I had to look it up again for this post. Dork facts out.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1854 on: April 10, 2019, 07:03:00 AM »
All urethane is that brownish (natural) color.  White pigment  has to be added to the mix to make the wheel white.

They offer their wheels in white or the natural brownish color (along with the swirls and other colors).

I thought this had been covered before.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1855 on: April 10, 2019, 07:06:44 AM »
haha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1856 on: April 11, 2019, 10:42:04 AM »
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haha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me
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The classics are absolutely amazing. However, I find that I can slide better on radial slims.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1857 on: April 11, 2019, 10:49:29 AM »
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For some a less rounded edge more than likely helps their [mental] ledge/rail game?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1858 on: April 11, 2019, 11:37:11 AM »
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For some a less rounded edge more than likely helps their [mental] ledge/rail game?
Im assuming that it helps them because its easier for them to slip out on a rounder edge so I guess a flatter one helps lock it in better? (example: lock ins)

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #1859 on: April 11, 2019, 12:29:59 PM »
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haha i'll probably by a set of the tablets only to realized for the millionth time that the classics are the best shape for me
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For some a less rounded edge more than likely helps their [mental] ledge/rail game?
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Im assuming that it helps them because its easier for them to slip out on a rounder edge so I guess a flatter one helps lock it in better? (example: lock ins)

I've skate angled iron with bones V2s and it was super easy to lockin (yeah, like lockins I suppose, he;; that's the logic in their new naming conventions anyway) but that was a regular thing at a DIY so it made sense? If I know I'm hitting regular street often, which means I'm slappy'ng for the forseeable future I always go rounded edge. Radial slims kinda give you the best of both. Riding Bones V1s and having no issues on coping or ledges (not skating bars or rails lately).