Spitfire formula four

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I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.

I would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.

[AssFlea]

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I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.

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I would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.

boom fereal

[colinquinn]

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I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

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I heard the same rumor a couple weeks ago. My local was completely out of ALL spitfire at the time and they said to snatch up F4 wherever you can find them. Then another local was fully restocked the following week. I’m still hoping it’s just a rumor.

This is indeed a disturbing universe.

[arrbee]

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I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.

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I would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.

Flat spots over bones wheels all day. I won some bones wheels in a giveaway. I can trade them in to save my life.

[rob]

I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.

Stf gang all day

But really 99a gang all day

I will skate almost any 99a formula wheel

Or bones 100

I like the classic ole, 100’s, ricta naturals, spitfire classic, board brand wheels, pig, even oj

[backinaction]

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I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.

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I would. I would rather skate flatspotted classics than smooth plasticky hoffart asshole shaped wheels.

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Flat spots over bones wheels all day. I won some bones wheels in a giveaway. I can trade them in to save my life.

In the skatepark I do Bones all day.   SPF on my bigger board, STF on the smaller ones.  They are just straight up faster than even the 101 F4.  On the street though - F4 99.

[GoneWithTheSchwinn]

Don’t believe everything you hear, especially in a skate shop.

[Xen]

Go ride some loopholes if you can't get spits...

[el chino]

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I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

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I heard the same rumor a couple weeks ago. My local was completely out of ALL spitfire at the time and they said to snatch up F4 wherever you can find them. Then another local was fully restocked the following week. I’m still hoping it’s just a rumor.

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This is indeed a disturbing universe.

heard about this aswell, i just got some 101f4 radial slims 2 days ago

[fulfillthedream]

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I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

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I heard the same rumor a couple weeks ago. My local was completely out of ALL spitfire at the time and they said to snatch up F4 wherever you can find them. Then another local was fully restocked the following week. I’m still hoping it’s just a rumor.

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This is indeed a disturbing universe.

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heard about this aswell, i just got some 101f4 radial slims 2 days ago

man if this is true, then...

[Diocletian]

http://nfgmfg.com

Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

[arrbee]

http://nfgmfg.com

Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

[Firebert]

http://nfgmfg.com

Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

Would also explain why some of my f4s are much brighter

"The color of the wheels vary in a spectrum of natural urethane color"

[ClownOfTheDay]

Can we please get a fucking answer? all this silence drives me mad.

[Diocletian]

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Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

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The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

These are the “formula 5’s” in a sense and not the people who make formula fours. This appears to be a small operation and they’re all hand cut.

[arrbee]

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http://nfgmfg.com

Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

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The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

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These are the “formula 5’s” in a sense and not the people who make formula fours. This appears to be a small operation and they’re all hand cut.

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying

[velvethammer]

If you didn't like the potato color you can get the classics in all black now. New black out F4's on the website

[Xen]

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Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

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The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.

Nobody wants to go back to F1s.

[arrbee]

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http://nfgmfg.com

Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

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The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

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Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.

Nobody wants to go back to F1s.

Was there ever F2/F3 or did we jump straight to F4?

[Starm]

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Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

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The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

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Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.

Nobody wants to go back to F1s.

Well if DLX owned the F4 urethane then we probably wouldn't be talking about them discontinuing production, this doesn't really make me confident in the future of the wheels.

[ClownOfTheDay]

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http://nfgmfg.com

Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

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The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

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Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.

Nobody wants to go back to F1s.

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Was there ever F2/F3 or did we jump straight to F4?

I asked the same question a couple years ago

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Anyone know the origin of the name "Loophole"?   As in - we found a loophole so we can offer wheels with the same urethane as Formula 4?

It looks to me like Loophole and NFG are the same company.  Both domains registered privately through Network Solutions and hosted on Wix, using the same Wix DNS servers (dns6 and dns7)

[HugeBodBoyle]

Anyone know the origin of the name "Loophole"?   As in - we found a loophole so we can offer wheels with the same urethane as Formula 4?

It looks to me like Loophole and NFG are the same company.  Both domains registered privately through Network Solutions and hosted on Wix, using the same Wix DNS servers (dns6 and dns7)

well, for that matter, they resolve to the same IP address.

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I guess that could be a load balancer of some sort...Wix probably uses minimal public ip addresses, so disregard.

[weedgod94]

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http://nfgmfg.com

Seems like this is who actually makes the wheels, and then loophole, or whoever else as a company places an order, they put your logo on the wheel. If the F4 rumor is true, I’d imagine they’re about to blow up with orders.

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The rumor is the company is getting out of the game, if said rumor was true wouldn't they not take any new orders?

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Curious why they'd leave, if they are indeed licensing (?) the formula to DLX? Or perhaps DLX owns the 4 formula outright and aren't making anything off the sales of their own 'thane.

Nobody wants to go back to F1s.

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Was there ever F2/F3 or did we jump straight to F4?

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I asked the same question a couple years ago

I'm assuming they developed a formula two and three but they weren't good enough to release. Either that or the marketing guy just said F4 sounds cool

[Xen]

They are all a tier class of open-wheel 'formula' racing. Evolution of the F1 spitfire series; no idea why they'd go straight to Four except it does sound cooler than the others.

F1 = Racing
F2 = Racing
F3 = Racing
F4 = Racing

[Smartass]

Anyone know the origin of the name "Loophole"?   As in - we found a loophole so we can offer wheels with the same urethane as Formula 4?

It looks to me like Loophole and NFG are the same company.  Both domains registered privately through Network Solutions and hosted on Wix, using the same Wix DNS servers (dns6 and dns7)

From what I've been told they're just basically a branch of NFG at the moment.

[Diocletian]

I will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.

[arrbee]

I will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.

Was in my local yesterday talked to the crew and they were told by their DLX rep some machinery in the factory went down and took a while to repair which created a back log in manufacturing and created the shortage of F4. DLX could just be blowing smoke while they get it sorted out, or could be the real reason and the rumor spawned from the shortage. The silence from the DLX dudes that post here is definitely saying something.

Someone man up and hit Jim T. on insta.

[FROTHY]

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I will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.

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Was in my local yesterday talked to the crew and they were told by their DLX rep some machinery in the factory went down and took a while to repair which created a back log in manufacturing and created the shortage of F4. DLX could just be blowing smoke while they get it sorted out, or could be the real reason and the rumor spawned from the shortage. The silence from the DLX dudes that post here is definitely saying something.

Someone man up and hit Jim T. on insta.

Shit, I just put two and two together... A few weeks ago I complained to Scott at spitfire about my HD Chargers, and he offered to replace them with some more HD Chargers or F4s. I basically said any F4 would be great. Lo and behold, they sent HD Chargers. I wonder if the rumored F4 turmoil had to do with this.
(FYI I still greatly appreciate Scott and Reed's customer service)

[arrbee]

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I will perpetuate this current rumor and add that I talked to the owner at my local and he heard from a reliable source in Cali that there is definitely something going on with the whole F4 fiasco. Apparently the guy who created the formula, a “urethane scientist” or whatever you’d call him, wanted more money from DLX and they said no, so he said peace. And since DLX doesn’t know exactly what’s in the secret sauce, he has the upper hand.

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Was in my local yesterday talked to the crew and they were told by their DLX rep some machinery in the factory went down and took a while to repair which created a back log in manufacturing and created the shortage of F4. DLX could just be blowing smoke while they get it sorted out, or could be the real reason and the rumor spawned from the shortage. The silence from the DLX dudes that post here is definitely saying something.

Someone man up and hit Jim T. on insta.

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Shit, I just put two and two together... A few weeks ago I complained to Scott at spitfire about my HD Chargers, and he offered to replace them with some more HD Chargers or F4s. I basically said any F4 would be great. Lo and behold, they sent HD Chargers. I wonder if the rumored F4 turmoil had to do with this.
(FYI I still greatly appreciate Scott and Reed's customer service)

My local was out of spits all together and called them like "we need like 80 sets of spits, we're all out" box showed up with a ton of the colored F4's a few set of the "white" in various shapes and sizes and the rest was classic formula. Was lucky enough to scoop some 54mm tablets before they stocked the case. Now I have 3 sets of F4 in my stash.