Spitfire formula four

[FrozenIndustries]

Damn. Does anyone know what the deal actually is with all this? Like is it 100% due to COVID closures or is there something else?

[Stigmata]

I really wanna try out some OG classics. Are the SFW's just non-formula four lock ins?

[Big Baby Jesus]

I really wanna try out some OG classics. Are the SFW's just non-formula four lock ins?

I'm on 55mm sfw. They're basically og formula conical fulls. Love em.

[jay_nev]

So any difference between sfw and og classic shape?

[spanyard]

SFW are 99% identical to The shape of F4 conical fulls, but classic non-F4 formula with the tiny threaded/ribbed surface on the contact patch.

[FredGallsBallz]

This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.

[Paperclip20]

This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.

they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.

[FredGallsBallz]

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This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.

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they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.

Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.

[gsosa]

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This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.

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they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.

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Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.

Just get the Indy skate tool with the rethreader thingy (or any other brand that has that)

[pizzafliptofakie]

My shop got a bunch of Tablets in so I picked up a set in case another shortage comes through. My current set still have some life left but I can't wait to try these out.

[Ok]

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This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.

[close]

they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.

[close]

Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.

[close]

Just get the Indy skate tool with the rethreader thingy (or any other brand that has that)

Juanjo789 got your cure

[jay_nev]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143634633456

Wtf is this??

Seller has bunch of other F4 bundles

[rocklobster]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143634633456

Wtf is this??

Seller has bunch of other F4 bundles

I clicked into the seller's page but didn't see any other products. Are the other F4s Classics and Radial Slims? They could be fakes from China, widely available on Taobao and Aliexpress.

[thelonelynow]

Item Location: Japan

Then for me it says "This item does not ship to Japan".

I guess because you will go to prison selling counterfeit items here or the vendor is scared a local buyer would come track them down and then not bow when they greeted them and demanded a refund.

Also, a good way to be publicly shamed in the local newspaper.

Edit: Or perhaps they aren't fakes and this is why we rarely have Spitfires here for the past year. This guy is a postal Ninja and intercepts all shipments to shops containing Formula Fours!

[jay_nev]

Weird. Yeah more wheel bundles

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143634633281

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143634633391

Also completes, a bunch of them
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143634633239

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Item Location: Japan

Then for me it says "This item does not ship to Japan".

I guess because you will go to prison selling counterfeit items here or the vendor is scared a local buyer would come track them down and then not bow when they greeted them and demanded a refund.

Also, a good way to be publicly shamed in the local newspaper.

Edit: Or perhaps they aren't fakes and this is why we rarely have Spitfires here for the past year. This guy is a postal Ninja and intercepts all shipments to shops containing Formula Fours!

be careful too because a few Local shops in Japan have recently reported individual sellers selling fake F4s on places like  eBay and mericari etc.

[thelonelynow]

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Item Location: Japan

Then for me it says "This item does not ship to Japan".

I guess because you will go to prison selling counterfeit items here or the vendor is scared a local buyer would come track them down and then not bow when they greeted them and demanded a refund.

Also, a good way to be publicly shamed in the local newspaper.

Edit: Or perhaps they aren't fakes and this is why we rarely have Spitfires here for the past year. This guy is a postal Ninja and intercepts all shipments to shops containing Formula Fours!

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be careful too because a few Local shops in Japan have recently reported individual sellers selling fake F4s on places like  eBay and mericari etc.

Oh for sure! The only legit F4's we've had since last June in my local shop are some Black 58mm Classics and the Gray 54mm Radials I got, which they had 3 sets of. I sometimes order from Prime Tokyo as they are DLX's seemingly favorite shop to keep supplied but even they have been out forever...



That guy won't ship local to Japan, that makes it smell fishy right away!

[rocklobster]

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Item Location: Japan

Then for me it says "This item does not ship to Japan".

I guess because you will go to prison selling counterfeit items here or the vendor is scared a local buyer would come track them down and then not bow when they greeted them and demanded a refund.

Also, a good way to be publicly shamed in the local newspaper.

Edit: Or perhaps they aren't fakes and this is why we rarely have Spitfires here for the past year. This guy is a postal Ninja and intercepts all shipments to shops containing Formula Fours!

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be careful too because a few Local shops in Japan have recently reported individual sellers selling fake F4s on places like  eBay and mericari etc.

They started with selling wheels from defunt brands (Deca, Industrial Rideshop) or older stock of popular ones (Girl, Pig) but have started selling Spitfires in the past 3-4 months. A friend bought a set from a local seller and there were a few glaring mistakes.

Durometer printed on the wheel was 100d.
Bone white instead of yellow/white.

The online sellers also sell old Royal, Destructo and Independent trucks. They also do counterfeit Element, Baker, DGK and Supreme decks while selling ex-stock of older Crail products with Guy Mariano's name on the boards. They even have a wheel and truck brand named Koston.

https://skatesky.en.alibaba.com/product/660297438-212640125/Wholesale_price_mixed_color_PU_skate_wheel_51mm_for_skateboard_wheels.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.9.67535de3L3AiSe

[giant_skater]

I rode tablets for a month then switched up to conical fulls. the tabs were mint at parks and lock in mint but are noticeably rougher on streets. smallest rock and they threw my ass. conical fulls are perfect for both wont ride anything else now. love their smooth ride and stability and they still pop sweet. straight street crusher. 52mm 99a

[BMCsteve]

Has anyone seen some 101 52mm conical fulls recently? Can’t find a pair to save my life

[jay_nev]

Has anyone seen some 101 52mm conical fulls recently? Can’t find a pair to save my life

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224050372591

Just listed

[BL0B]

Has anyone seen some 101 52mm conical fulls recently? Can’t find a pair to save my life

52's
https://www.furnaceskate.com/collections/wheels/products/formula-four-101d-conical-full
https://35thnorth.com/collections/wheels/products/spitfire-formula-four-wheels-conical-full-101

[Juanjo789]

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This isn't a Spitfire specific question but I only ride Spitfire, so I'm dropping it here. Do conical, radial and the other shapes with a wide riding service cone at the same rate/manner as the classic shapes? Has anyone ever paid attention to this? Peace.

[close]

they don't necessarily cone faster but personally I have found it more noticeable on conicals since they have that more squared shape. All you need to do is rotate them like once per month, or I do whenever I switch decks.

[close]

Thanks, that's what I figured. I hate taking the wheels off the axles because I'm worried I'll never get the nut to thread correctly again. But that's a topic for another thread.

[close]

Just get the Indy skate tool with the rethreader thingy (or any other brand that has that)

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Juanjo789 got your cure

sup

[ish_wav]

So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.

[YungJugg]

So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.

Look harder, plenty shops still have em, your options will probably just be more limited.

First three sites I went to had em stocked...peep Parade.

edit: I’m assuming you are US, apologies if you’re overseas but it may be tougher to find in that case.

[Ok]

So what’s the deal with the lack of formula fours literally anywhere? I don’t change wheels very often but I’m in desperate need of a new set and Skate Warehouse doesn’t even have them as a list of brands in the wheels section.

Try parade. That links you to actual skate shops.

[Noble Experiment]

Was at my local shop trying to get F4s and they said something about how they received an e-mail from deluxe the other day about how they’re shutting down for two weeks or something. They were wiped clean of all deluxe related stuff. Had to settle for STF V3’s instead.

[jay_nev]

My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

[Onevia]

My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

[YungJugg]

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My 99a conical fulls are just crazy rough on my local crusty streets. Jarring even conical fulls. Do I need to give me break in time? I also had very hard time getting bearings in. Might’ve been bc they were delivered today via 90°+ usps truck? 
But had better luck/feeling with classic formula. I’m sure at parks or smooth paved ground they’re amazing but I just can’t find

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Ya, my 54mm 99a conical fulls ended being the same on my streets (no trouble with the bearings, though). My older 51mm 99a Radial Slims actually felt a little bit better over the same terrain, which was surprising.

On day 1 my 99a (conical full) were louder than my past 101s (tablets), feel rougher on the feet, and slide just as easy. The 101s were feeling good at my usual spots (mix of crust and smooth) but when riding round the city they’d ice so bad on quick turns. I can’t judge em off the first session but like you, I hope these break in well because they seem the opposite of what I was looking for.