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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5010 on: May 12, 2023, 06:59:57 PM »
 Still leaving so much on the table by not putting the graphic on the other side of the lock-ins and calling them lock-outs.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5011 on: May 12, 2023, 09:50:37 PM »
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Is it asymmetrical or is it just my eyes?

Def has a Mini-Combo vibe. Seems like an odd thing to get into when you already have Lock-Ins going, as well as hundreds of angry people on the internet wanting Radial Slims.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5012 on: May 12, 2023, 11:20:31 PM »


Def has a Mini-Combo vibe. Seems like an odd thing to get into when you already have Lock-Ins going, as well as hundreds of angry people on the internet wanting Radial Slims.




I do wonder in reality how many people actually want Radial Slims, or if it is more the vocal minority because DLX really do seem to listen to people and make product that people are keen on, or bring back things if enough people want something.

From what others in the know have said, there is no light at the end of this Radial Slim tunnel, but who really knows unless they have enough people pounding on their digital door asking for something and the powers that be do think it is a viable option.


The wide wheel trend is in full effect, so anything else super wide is definitely going to be lapped up and sell quickly, regardless of the exact shape, but the mini combo shaped wheels have been a good one for a while now, so it would make sense to have something similar to that in the current climate.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5013 on: May 12, 2023, 11:52:52 PM »


Why are wide wheels so popular right now? My experience with super wide wheels is that they are heavy and make everything harder. I know a few people who tried the radial fulls and they have said the same. It would be cool if they made a new shape that was more functional
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5014 on: May 13, 2023, 12:05:18 AM »
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Is it asymmetrical or is it just my eyes?
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Def has a Mini-Combo vibe. Seems like an odd thing to get into when you already have Lock-Ins going, as well as hundreds of angry people on the internet wanting Radial Slims.

Maybe these are the lock-ins full that The Bunt talked about before the rapid fire in the Reese Forbes interview.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5015 on: May 13, 2023, 12:09:32 AM »
Wide asym wheels? No thanks.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5016 on: May 13, 2023, 12:48:48 AM »
Bleh. Is there really demand for another shape?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5017 on: May 13, 2023, 04:36:24 AM »
Spitfire please, just make more 60mm Radial Fulls. I'm begging. I'll need to open my back up set soon.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5018 on: May 13, 2023, 05:16:00 AM »
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Why are wide wheels so popular right now? My experience with super wide wheels is that they are heavy and make everything harder. I know a few people who tried the radial fulls and they have said the same. It would be cool if they made a new shape that was more functional

Cause they look cool

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5019 on: May 13, 2023, 05:17:23 AM »
Did spitfire give up on the slim wheel market share?
Seems like bones never even tried to get any of the wide wheel share either.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5020 on: May 13, 2023, 05:57:30 AM »
Spitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5021 on: May 13, 2023, 06:09:38 AM »
Spitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5
Just thought about that as well. Would be the best wheel ever.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5022 on: May 13, 2023, 07:29:35 AM »
It doesn't seem consistent with the lock-ins full description from the catalog:
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A wider version of the lock-in shape.
Asymmetrical shape and design, featuring a conical cut profile on one side and a straight edge "lock-in" cut on the other
that wheel in the story doesn't really look asymetrical, iirc the inside should be flatter



but based on this picture, i guess that new shape is the lock-ins full


Radial full are coming in 54mm. Not a new shape per se but a new diameter option for radial full

Anyway Lock-Ins Full and Radial Full 54mm are the only wheels that could be considered new in the Summer catalog

i think Radial full suck, they make your hanger so tiny
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5023 on: May 13, 2023, 09:11:29 AM »
Why are wide wheels so popular right now? My experience with super wide wheels is that they are heavy and make everything harder.
Because they last longer and are more stable.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5024 on: May 13, 2023, 10:59:49 AM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5025 on: May 13, 2023, 11:02:01 AM »
Spitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5

This would be amazing
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5026 on: May 13, 2023, 01:33:12 PM »
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Def has a Mini-Combo vibe. Seems like an odd thing to get into when you already have Lock-Ins going, as well as hundreds of angry people on the internet wanting Radial Slims.

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I do wonder in reality how many people actually want Radial Slims, or if it is more the vocal minority because DLX really do seem to listen to people and make product that people are keen on, or bring back things if enough people want something.

From what others in the know have said, there is no light at the end of this Radial Slim tunnel, but who really knows unless they have enough people pounding on their digital door asking for something and the powers that be do think it is a viable option.


The wide wheel trend is in full effect, so anything else super wide is definitely going to be lapped up and sell quickly, regardless of the exact shape, but the mini combo shaped wheels have been a good one for a while now, so it would make sense to have something similar to that in the current climate.

That’s true. I guess it just feels like a “ramp wheel” shape to me and Spitfire has always been more of a “street wheel” brand. That said, these look much better than the regular Lock-Ins to me. Aesthetically, I never liked the Tablet half on those (even though I don’t mind the look of Tablets in general).

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5027 on: May 13, 2023, 03:44:48 PM »
They should release the Conical Boul shape designed to skate the streets of Philly. From running from the cops at Muni to skating the grimiest cellar door. Don't be a fool, Conical Boul.




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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5028 on: May 13, 2023, 10:34:39 PM »
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This would be amazing

Or they could just bring back Radial Slims in 99a
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5029 on: May 14, 2023, 01:32:35 AM »
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Spitfire make a classic with side cuts. Like bones v5
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This would be amazing
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Or they could just bring back Radial Slims in 99a

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5030 on: May 14, 2023, 01:58:25 AM »
It doesn't seem consistent with the lock-ins full description from the catalog:
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A wider version of the lock-in shape.
Asymmetrical shape and design, featuring a conical cut profile on one side and a straight edge "lock-in" cut on the other
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that wheel in the story doesn't really look asymetrical, iirc the inside should be flatter


Radial full are coming in 54mm. Not a new shape per se but a new diameter option for radial full

Anyway Lock-Ins Full and Radial Full 54mm are the only wheels that could be considered new in the Summer catalog

i think Radial full suck, they make your hanger so tiny


I guess it just feels like a “ramp wheel” shape to me and Spitfire has always been more of a “street wheel” brand. That said, these look much better than the regular Lock-Ins to me. Aesthetically, I never liked the Tablet half on those (even though I don’t mind the look of Tablets in general).


For anyone who has had old Lock Ins, does the current back of the wheel look a lot more rounded than it used to?

The first set of those I got seemed like they were so very sharp on the back edge of them, not quite to a point but definitely way more Tablet sided, but seeing the new ones now, they are way more rounded.

I did also notice that the older ones did sit way more offset in covering more hanger, whereas the newer ones sit way more offset out not covering much past the washers on the hanger.  No idea when that shape changed, but it has for sure.


That new shape looks way more "normal" sort of like the mini combo wheel shape, as earlier stated, but I still prefer any wheel that I can flip over and still ride the same, way more than an asymmetrical shaped wheel.

Curious to see these, but not curious enough to buy a set.



Did spitfire give up on the slim wheel market share?
Seems like bones never even tried to get any of the wide wheel share either.


Funny you say that because most shops didn't want to touch the wider Bones wheels and there were some very big wide wheels around, maybe still around, but the V6 shape is the newest one and is round and full.

Can't remember the shape but the SPF 60mm big round ones were 40mm wide and I had a number of those pass through my hands for the guys who wanted something like the Spitfire Bighead shape in 59mm x 39mm sizes.

Looked them up and P3 were the wide ones.

https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/bones-wheels-shapes_3_1-1.jpg


I guess too, seeing the smaller Spitfire Lil Smokies, or just the regular F4 Classics, or Tablets, or even Conical shape, there are still a number of options for slim wheels, but they definitely are not the slimmest wheels on the market, as per some of those Bones STF wheels under 30mm wide, or the STF V3 like 54x30mm with thin riding surface, which is what one of the spono guys would always ask for.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5031 on: May 14, 2023, 07:32:54 AM »
The newest batch of conical fulls and Lock ons definitely got a slight shape change. Conicals have a bit more radius on the edges vs the sharper one that seemed more prone to chipping.
The new max Palmer wheels are a lighter color and the graphic seems to wear away slower. The wheels feel awesome and slide better than the last few sets I skated.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5032 on: May 14, 2023, 08:28:09 AM »
The newest batch of conical fulls and Lock ons definitely got a slight shape change. Conicals have a bit more radius on the edges vs the sharper one that seemed more prone to chipping.
The new max Palmer wheels are a lighter color and the graphic seems to wear away slower. The wheels feel awesome and slide better than the last few sets I skated.

whoa, hopefully someone comes through with some comparison pictures

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5033 on: May 14, 2023, 08:55:22 AM »
The newest batch of conical fulls and Lock ons definitely got a slight shape change. Conicals have a bit more radius on the edges vs the sharper one that seemed more prone to chipping.
The new max Palmer wheels are a lighter color and the graphic seems to wear away slower. The wheels feel awesome and slide better than the last few sets I skated.

same got the 56 cf skatelikeagirl sets and they slide better than the 56 cfs i had in 2020

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5034 on: May 15, 2023, 09:18:03 AM »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5035 on: May 15, 2023, 10:45:07 AM »
recently switched back from wide F4 stuff, like conical fulls and radials, to classic shape... noticeably clears up some truck real estate, which is fun. 

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5036 on: May 15, 2023, 11:59:29 AM »
Went from 53mm 99du Conical Full back to an Ishod 53mm 99du Classic and think imma stick with the classics for a bit...

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5037 on: May 15, 2023, 12:30:15 PM »
recently switched back from wide F4 stuff, like conical fulls and radials, to classic shape... noticeably clears up some truck real estate, which is fun.
They're almost exactly the same width though. Classics just have a tiny riding surface, but they're super wide

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5038 on: May 15, 2023, 02:42:10 PM »
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recently switched back from wide F4 stuff, like conical fulls and radials, to classic shape... noticeably clears up some truck real estate, which is fun.
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They're almost exactly the same width though. Classics just have a tiny riding surface, but they're super wide

well, there goes that hair-brained theory of mine.  still like the return to the classics.   



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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5039 on: May 15, 2023, 04:03:03 PM »
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recently switched back from wide F4 stuff, like conical fulls and radials, to classic shape... noticeably clears up some truck real estate, which is fun.
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They're almost exactly the same width though. Classics just have a tiny riding surface, but they're super wide
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well, there goes that hair-brained theory of mine.  still like the return to the classics.   



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