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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5310 on: August 27, 2023, 03:45:39 PM »
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I went with the 54mm Kader Radial Fulls. Compared them to the CFs to make sure they were wider. The 59mm ones were insanely large. It seems like Spitfire barely makes this shape in 54mm though.
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how much wider are they than 54 CFs if you don't mind me asking. not the listed dimensions but if you held both in hand, big difference?
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A little bigger. But I’ll take it 🤤


38mm vs 33mm according to my digital caliper.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5311 on: August 27, 2023, 05:19:33 PM »
just got a set of radials after skating a conical full type shape, its a world of difference. The round edge makes it so much easier and agile.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5312 on: August 28, 2023, 12:42:00 AM »
just got a set of radials after skating a conical full type shape, its a world of difference. The round edge makes it so much easier and agile.

This. Love the normal Radial shape after clunking away with overly wide wheels for a while. Would buy Radial Slims if I could find them somewhere. Seems like I'm going against the trend these days as I prefer slimmer wheels now. Feels lighter, too.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5313 on: August 28, 2023, 06:36:38 AM »
i feel like fat wheels are best for people who are just skating a lot of different BIG spots all the time doing your go-to's as huge as possible. heavy terrain, always going regular... T Funk, Mason Silva, Jeff Carlyle come to mind. anything with FULL in the name lol.

if you are trying to do new tricks, it requires a lot of tries and you dont want heavy ass wheels for that, get more tries in on a light setup. classic or normal radial all the way. or i guess maybe small tablets if you only skate in straight lines / ledge wizard.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5314 on: August 28, 2023, 06:48:33 AM »
i feel like fat wheels are best for people who are just skating a lot of different BIG spots all the time doing your go-to's as huge as possible. heavy terrain, always going regular... T Funk, Mason Silva, Jeff Carlyle come to mind. anything with FULL in the name lol.

if you are trying to do new tricks, it requires a lot of tries and you dont want heavy ass wheels for that, get more tries in on a light setup. classic or normal radial all the way. or i guess maybe small tablets if you only skate in straight lines / ledge wizard.
I love tablets. The riding surface is big for their size. Probably my favorite Spitfire shape. I just got the chunky boys cause I’m injured and madness has me wrapped in its cold embrace lol

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5315 on: August 28, 2023, 07:47:47 AM »
I used to only skate tablet shaped for a decent period of time (the bones version, or whatever the closest thing they have to it.). I think it is the ultimate "lock in" wheel for and sort of slide trick. but yes they have the fatter riding surface and typically i was riding these in stupid hard duros like 104a, and only skating at perfect skate plazas. seems like biggest thing spitfire tablet is offered in is 55mm and that is probably quite rare even. If you are gonna ride tablets, gotta go 51 or 52mm!!

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5316 on: August 30, 2023, 01:27:53 AM »
Looks like some new size Classic F4s coming in Spring 2024. 48mm and 66.6mm among others.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5317 on: August 30, 2023, 05:10:27 PM »
Just echoing some thoughts from the Wheels thread:

I've been skating about 2 years and was mostly on PP and Bones wheels (Dragons and X-formulas), with a set of OJs mixed in. Been mostly riding 99A F4 Conical fulls the past couple week or so and am just digging the hell out of them. I can't really articulate it, I just like the way F4 feels. The knock that Bones wheels feel "plastic-y" made sense after trying F4.

In my past few sessions at the skate park and a few neighborhood spots, I'm progressing a fuck ton. I more connected to the board and more confident. Last time something like this happened to me gear-wise, it was switching from cupsoles to vulc... like a hidden handicap suddenly disappeared.

I also seem to like Spitfire shapes better. Just wider contact patches across the board, feels more stable for me.

Anyone curious I picked up a set of those relatively new shiny Sapphires from a local shop:
  • Spitfire Sapphires 56A 90A - I picked these up on a lark after liking the F4s, they're a bust. I was hoping for a non-cruiser shaped wheel could skate more quietly around my house after dark without pissing off my neighbors, but they feel / sound pretty hard because of the 101A core-- noticeably harder than the Bones X97s IMO. Roll speed doesn't seem the best and are stickier than Dragons or X-formula in slides. I don't really get the target audience except maybe those who think colored clear wheels are cool?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5318 on: August 30, 2023, 09:02:37 PM »
Looks like some new size Classic F4s coming in Spring 2024. 48mm and 66.6mm among others.

What color is the swirl on the 48s? I really dig the Lil’ Smokies I have in that size/shape.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5319 on: August 31, 2023, 12:45:19 AM »
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Looks like some new size Classic F4s coming in Spring 2024. 48mm and 66.6mm among others.
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What color is the swirl on the 48s? I really dig the Lil’ Smokies I have in that size/shape.

Looks like its just white but a proper graphic wheel instead of a lil smokie. 43mm, 48mm 52mm and 60mm 62mm and 66.6mm in a series.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5320 on: August 31, 2023, 02:20:33 AM »


Bighead Shape getting some love
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5321 on: August 31, 2023, 06:39:38 AM »


Bighead Shape getting some love

Why don't they run a bighead shape in F4?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5322 on: August 31, 2023, 07:03:11 AM »
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Bighead Shape getting some love
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Why don't they run a bighead shape in F4?

classic wide is basically the same
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5323 on: August 31, 2023, 07:21:45 AM »
more precisely

Classic full F4 53mm are 33.5 width / 18.5 riding

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5324 on: August 31, 2023, 07:38:58 AM »
Has anyone tried the 97D Spitfire F4 wheels?

I have been using the Bones X97, and really like them. Wondering how the Spitfires compare.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5325 on: August 31, 2023, 08:05:23 AM »
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Bighead Shape getting some love
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Why don't they run a bighead shape in F4?
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classic wide is basically the same

Yeah they don't exactly run the Classic Fulls either...

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5326 on: August 31, 2023, 08:36:56 AM »
I kinda feel like Spitfire is resting on its laurels. Bones came out with new formulas  with more diverse shapes. And spitfires like bro check it out clear wheels and full size wheels on the biggest shapes.


Spitfire step it up! I don’t like the fact right now I prefer x99. I can’t even look myself in the mirror

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5327 on: August 31, 2023, 09:03:10 AM »
I kinda feel like Spitfire is resting on its laurels. Bones came out with new formulas  with more diverse shapes. And spitfires like bro check it out clear wheels and full size wheels on the biggest shapes.


Spitfire step it up! I don’t like the fact right now I prefer x99. I can’t even look myself in the mirror

And this forum eats that shit up like it's the last supper. DLX can do no wrong, even by doing nothing.

That said, if it ain't broke...

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5328 on: August 31, 2023, 09:08:25 AM »
I kinda feel like Spitfire is resting on its laurels. Bones came out with new formulas  with more diverse shapes. And spitfires like bro check it out clear wheels and full size wheels on the biggest shapes.


Spitfire step it up! I don’t like the fact right now I prefer x99. I can’t even look myself in the mirror

This. The clear soft wheel thing is just an uninteresting anomaly, and the full shape trend needs to stop.

Yes, the F4 formula is amazing, but maybe its success has made them a tad too comfortable. New innovations such as the Dragons and the X-Formula (both 97 and 99) are milestones to be honest (regardless of this forum), and I have yet to see similarly impressive things coming from the Spitfire camp. I mean, even the OJ Elite formula is kinda up there with F4.

It could be that I'm just tripping here and underestimating the omnipotency of the F4, but one of these days they need to step it up.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5329 on: August 31, 2023, 09:15:28 AM »
Just keep the Radial Slims in 52 / 54 / 56mm in regular rotation and Spitfire would make at least 7 ppl on here really happy.

I'm feeling slightly bigger wheels these days, a 55 / 56mm Radial Slim would be a fun ride.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5330 on: August 31, 2023, 09:21:07 AM »
Just keep the Radial Slims in 52 / 54 / 56mm in regular rotation and Spitfire would make at least 7 ppl on here really happy.

I'm feeling slightly bigger wheels these days, a 55 / 56mm Radial Slim would be a fun ride.

Seconded. The minute I can find a 55mm Radial Slim somewhere (hopefully someday) I'll stock 'em up like a little squirrel.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5331 on: August 31, 2023, 09:36:46 AM »
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Just keep the Radial Slims in 52 / 54 / 56mm in regular rotation and Spitfire would make at least 7 ppl on here really happy.

I'm feeling slightly bigger wheels these days, a 55 / 56mm Radial Slim would be a fun ride.
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Seconded. The minute I can find a 55mm Radial Slim somewhere (hopefully someday) I'll stock 'em up like a little squirrel.

Such a weird move not doing some runs or Radial Slims in favor of say...those lock-in or Radial fulls....one is def more niche than the other.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5332 on: August 31, 2023, 11:50:13 AM »
The kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5333 on: August 31, 2023, 01:27:24 PM »
Damn it, I just want some radial slims in 99a 52-54mm… last time i saw some was like 3 or more years ago

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5334 on: August 31, 2023, 01:29:12 PM »
Damn it, I just want some radial slims in 99a 52-54mm… last time i saw some was like 3 or more years ago

https://www.depop.com/products/mikelscloset-spitfire-wheels-radial-slims-size/?srsltid=AfmBOorK8nZOkbFK4y7yDrdgaME5QlM0iEq_ANTb5aJsxIpNw1HtivNfQtk


I've given up and moved to BONES X99 52/53mm V1 shape. Closest I'll get. 0 complaints (and better for my needs).

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5335 on: August 31, 2023, 02:24:14 PM »
Isn't the V2 pretty close? My V5 X99 had the same contact patch width as a spitfire Classic that was lightly worn and were slightly narrower in the middle, but the Radial Slim has a 3mm wider contact patch in a given size and is 4mm narrower in the middle than the Classic.

I'm not super sold on the X99 formula for my needs, is there an F4 Bones equivalent?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5336 on: August 31, 2023, 02:30:20 PM »
Isn't the V2 pretty close? My V5 X99 had the same contact patch width as a spitfire Classic that was lightly worn and were slightly narrower in the middle, but the Radial Slim has a 3mm wider contact patch in a given size and is 4mm narrower in the middle than the Classic.

I'm not super sold on the X99 formula for my needs, is there an F4 Bones equivalent?

Yeah V2 is more like Radial Slims than it is Tablets for sure; sadly they don't make them in x99 yet (or V3s).

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5337 on: August 31, 2023, 02:38:13 PM »
Just keep the Radial Slims in 52 / 54 / 56mm in regular rotation and Spitfire would make at least 7 ppl on here really happy.

I'm feeling slightly bigger wheels these days, a 55 / 56mm Radial Slim would be a fun ride.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5338 on: August 31, 2023, 09:47:14 PM »
Anybody able to powerslide/speed check on 97s? I can make those puppies yip but not bark, if you know what I mean.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5339 on: August 31, 2023, 10:11:46 PM »
The kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.
What shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere  (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)