Spitfire formula four

[Mbrimson88]

Anybody able to powerslide/speed check on 97s? I can make those puppies yip but not bark, if you know what I mean.

On the slippery smooth new concrete skatepark I skate at, they do, but on any normal skatepark or more worn concrete they grip a lot more than the 99s, which is my usual go to for wheels.

I get about the same from them, even though people have said the 97s are a bit slower, but this is my usual go to:

For normal parks = 99 duro wheels

For slippery smooth new parks = 97 duro wheels


I have skated them at other places a bit, but I have different boards, so I put certain boards in the car for the different places I go.

[BALARGUE]

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The kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.

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What shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere  (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)

og classics distribution/production is on hold. They might come back later in the rotation.
The only option now seems to be old stock

[Sila]

Has anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.

[rikki]

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The kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.

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What shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere  (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)

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og classics distribution/production is on hold. They might come back later in the rotation.
The only option now seems to be old stock

Source?

[scab]

Has anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.

I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.

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The kids are fucking loving the big wide wheels. My locals cannot keep them in stock and the Classics just sit there. Ventures with fat wheels is trending with the younguns. When I was at a shop last week they had just gotten a DLX delivery a few days prior and it was mostly 53 and up OG Classics, Conical Fulls, Radial Fulls, Lock in Fulls and the Radials and Locks sold out in 3 days. They didn't even order anything under 53.

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What shop is this? And do they have 54mm? I have been looking for f4 og classics everwhere  (please don't say you mis typed and its just the regular classics)

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og classics distribution/production is on hold. They might come back later in the rotation.
The only option now seems to be old stock

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prebooks / catalogs

[Sloppy Krooks]

Has anyone tried the 97D Spitfire F4 wheels?

I have been using the Bones X97, and really like them. Wondering how the Spitfires compare.

I have one set of each on my two main set-ups, and I personally find the Bones way superior.

The Spit 97s feel basic. Nothing fantastic, just a slightly gummy 97a wheel.

The Bones feel lively and fast

[Wizard Fight]

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Has anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.

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I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.

I have too, and I've had pretty much the same experience. I live in Nashville and only skate little street spots and the ground is super fucked, besides Legislative Plaza I guess. My best friend even skates like 90as or 85as of some other wheel brand. I might just suck too much to be able to deal with real vibratey, rattley ground while trying my little tricks, but the 2-durometer difference is somehow real beneficial to me.

[Xen]

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Has anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.

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I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.

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I have too, and I've had pretty much the same experience. I live in Nashville and only skate little street spots and the ground is super fucked, besides Legislative Plaza I guess. My best friend even skates like 90as or 85as of some other wheel brand. I might just suck too much to be able to deal with real vibratey, rattley ground while trying my little tricks, but the 2-durometer difference is somehow real beneficial to me.

x99s is what you're after.

[Ourladyoftheflowers]

Just wanted to say I miss the og classic shape. I just went from riding 60s and risers to 55 and no risers. Wanted easier pop while my ankles healing and it’s a godsend. Just sucks the conical/CF are only 54 and 56. Riding tablets now and like em a lot but I like the look of the fuller wheels . My partner had the og classic 55s and they look so sick

[rikki]

Just wanted to say I miss the og classic shape. I just went from riding 60s and risers to 55 and no risers. Wanted easier pop while my ankles healing and it’s a godsend. Just sucks the conical/CF are only 54 and 56. Riding tablets now and like em a lot but I like the look of the fuller wheels . My partner had the og classic 55s and they look so sick

Yes, there's something special about the 55mm OG Classics. Currently have them on one of my setups, they've been worn down to 54-ish, but still, just an awesome all-around wheel.

[JimmyFive]

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Has anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.

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I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.

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I have too, and I've had pretty much the same experience. I live in Nashville and only skate little street spots and the ground is super fucked, besides Legislative Plaza I guess. My best friend even skates like 90as or 85as of some other wheel brand. I might just suck too much to be able to deal with real vibratey, rattley ground while trying my little tricks, but the 2-durometer difference is somehow real beneficial to me.

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x99s is what you're after.

Yes these are amazing wheels! Really versatile and fast as f*ck. They are almost as good as X97 on not so great terrain and in the park they also keep speed pretty much as well as F4 101.

[moonordie]

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Has anyone here made the switch from 99 to 97 for regular street skating? Even 99's felt a bit rattly for me today and my streets aren't even super crusty or anything.

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I have, I'm running with 97A 54mm conical fulls on my main setup right now. I can't see myself ever going back to harder wheels, the overall comfort level is just so much higher that I don't mind sacrificing a bit of slideablilty. I was also never as attached to the sound of harder wheels as some other people on here seem to be, so it's not like my overall experience is in any way diminished. Quite the opposite, I have a smoother ride and need to push less. Highly recommended.

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I have too, and I've had pretty much the same experience. I live in Nashville and only skate little street spots and the ground is super fucked, besides Legislative Plaza I guess. My best friend even skates like 90as or 85as of some other wheel brand. I might just suck too much to be able to deal with real vibratey, rattley ground while trying my little tricks, but the 2-durometer difference is somehow real beneficial to me.

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x99s is what you're after.

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Yes these are amazing wheels! Really versatile and fast as f*ck. They are almost as good as X97 on not so great terrain and in the park they also keep speed pretty much as well as F4 101.

So tempted about trying X99 after being on F4 99 for I don't even how long.

[Fooj]

Radial Slims are an aesthetically very nice wheel to look at, really loved them.

I just hope Classic Fulls make a comeback, imo its the only full shape that doesnt feel too....full-y, the rounded edges take some weight off too.

[rikki]

What do we have to do to get Radial Slims back? I'm willing to perform a ceremonial sacrifice if needed.

[Xen]

Sadly, the 8 of us on these forums that want the wheel, even if we e-mailed or DM'd like men, everyday, we'd never get them

Bones x99 V1 are my go to instead these days as I like a thin(ner wheel) and sadly Spit doesn't offer anything that suits me.

[TwisT]

when did Formula 4s first released? I don't remember when that happened, as I was probably broke and not paying attention to what people with money buy. I feel like Spitfire popularity really ramped up when F4s showed up. I could be mistaken.

If Spitfire made a new formula, would they call it the formula 5? Or would they try to keep to keep the Formula 4 branding? like an F4+ or something?

[Frank and Fred]

when did Formula 4s first released? I don't remember when that happened, as I was probably broke and not paying attention to what people with money buy. I feel like Spitfire popularity really ramped up when F4s showed up. I could be mistaken.

If Spitfire made a new formula, would they call it the formula 5? Or would they try to keep to keep the Formula 4 branding? like an F4+ or something?

Check the beginning of this thread. I'm not sure why they'd need a new formula. They could obviously try the current soft wheel that slides thing that has everyone excited about Bones again but that might be an addition to not a replacement for F4s... who knows... It will take a lot to get me off F4s at this point.

[camel filters]

Were F4 og classics not selling well? Why aren't they making them again? Were they too similar to conicals? Superficial reasons for really wanting a set but I liked the black ring on the non swirl side of the wheels and I really want them to restock.

[TwisT]

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when did Formula 4s first released? I don't remember when that happened, as I was probably broke and not paying attention to what people with money buy. I feel like Spitfire popularity really ramped up when F4s showed up. I could be mistaken.

If Spitfire made a new formula, would they call it the formula 5? Or would they try to keep to keep the Formula 4 branding? like an F4+ or something?

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Check the beginning of this thread. I'm not sure why they'd need a new formula. They could obviously try the current soft wheel that slides thing that has everyone excited about Bones again but that might be an addition to not a replacement for F4s... who knows... It will take a lot to get me off F4s at this point.

Thanks. I didn't realize the this thread was from 2013. So I guess were coming up on the 10 year anniversary of f4 dominance

[dr.prestige]

when did Formula 4s first released? I don't remember when that happened, as I was probably broke and not paying attention to what people with money buy. I feel like Spitfire popularity really ramped up when F4s showed up. I could be mistaken.

If Spitfire made a new formula, would they call it the formula 5? Or would they try to keep to keep the Formula 4 branding? like an F4+ or something?

People definitely enjoyed Spitfire's Formula 1 wheels back then, and a lot of people were skating the classic formula too.

[Mick]

Were F4 og classics not selling well? Why aren't they making them again? Were they too similar to conicals? Superficial reasons for really wanting a set but I liked the black ring on the non swirl side of the wheels and I really want them to restock.

I keep thinking the same thing. Seems like they enjoy giving us something cool, then immediately taking it away.

[shawngreg]

^im another OG classic lover.  would love some 54mm f4's

[Xen]

Not sure how you’d improve on 99/101 F4s.

People skated og and F1 but STF were the dominating wheel as they were/are tough as hell to flat spot compared to v1s which, we’re kind trash in that regard at that time.

F4s released and they’ve been on top since…bones seemingly admitted defeat and went off to R&D the x / dragon formulas (with great success).

[Mbrimson88]

Were F4 og classics not selling well? Why aren't they making them again? Were they too similar to conicals? Superficial reasons for really wanting a set but I liked the black ring on the non swirl side of the wheels and I really want them to restock.

They might have held off remaking more squared off slim shape wheels, given the current trend of everything being bolldozer sized wheels coming out right now, but who knows.

Even the catalogs and things that had them coming out seem to have not come through, so I am guessing it is the current market, where the Conical and Classic are the main wheels in the not so wide category that they still make all the time and then the other newer shapes with Full in the name being the main ones they have been working on and producing.

Even the normal Radial shape is a good one and might sell better than the OG Classic, with Radial in 53, 54, 55 and 56 mm sizes in production more recently too.  I have some of the 54, 55 and 56 and they just skate so well.


Also funny seeing the first page way back in Feb 2013 when Formula Four ads were first hitting the market.  Pretty happy looking back at everything that has happened since then, given how many sets I have had come through my hands and what I have happily skated for this last decade.

I don't think the formula will change at all, but developing different duro options is a good one.  I wonder what happened to those 95 duro test wheels that Andrew Reynolds posted a while back, or other options that people had talked about.

Whatever the case, I am good with what is under my feet and I can't ask for anything more than that really.

[rocklobster]

Sadly, the 8 of us on these forums that want the wheel, even if we e-mailed or DM'd like men, everyday, we'd never get them

Bones x99 V1 are my go to instead these days as I like a thin(ner wheel) and sadly Spit doesn't offer anything that suits me.

I wish they retired Tablets, they had their time in the sun but it's time to return to the classics (Radial Slims).

[Paco Supreme]

I don’t know if I had any sway, I probably didn’t. But on every wheel release post Spitfire put up on Instagram.

I basically just said “these are good but where are the radials?” And after some time the Leo baker ones came out and I stock piled

Might take some time but you guys could try

[moonordie]

^im another OG classic lover.  would love some 54mm f4's

I miss my F4 OG classics, the GT ones 53mm, every single day.

[fakiefs180]

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Sadly, the 8 of us on these forums that want the wheel, even if we e-mailed or DM'd like men, everyday, we'd never get them

Bones x99 V1 are my go to instead these days as I like a thin(ner wheel) and sadly Spit doesn't offer anything that suits me.

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I wish they retired Tablets, they had their time in the sun but it's time to return to the classics (Radial Slims).

[Sedition]

I don’t know if I had any sway, I probably didn’t. But on every wheel release post Spitfire put up on Instagram.

I basically just said “these are good but where are the radials?” And after some time the Leo baker ones came out and I stock piled

Might take some time but you guys could try

I did that with Radial Slims. They literally sent me the last three sets (all 52mm/101a) they had in the warehouse. Dude who runs their IG said he keeps telling them to make Rad Slims...but we all know where that has gone.

I am actually surprised they haven't re-released the Classic Fulls, with the current monster truck wheel trend.