Spitfire formula four

[rawbertson.]

Would it be safe to say the 93s wear down faster than the 99s and such? I’m sure it’s faster but is it a LOT faster? My friend’s been skating the 54s and within like 3 weeks they looked like they were 52s or less

it is faster but its not that crazy. i rode mine for probably 15 sessions and they havent lost hardly anything off them. i spammed a shit load of feeble grinds so you can see that 1 wheel is starting to cone from the inside so i rotated them all around about a week ago.

[pinkeye fieri]

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Would it be safe to say the 93s wear down faster than the 99s and such? I’m sure it’s faster but is it a LOT faster? My friend’s been skating the 54s and within like 3 weeks they looked like they were 52s or less

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it is faster but its not that crazy. i rode mine for probably 15 sessions and they havent lost hardly anything off them. i spammed a shit load of feeble grinds so you can see that 1 wheel is starting to cone from the inside so i rotated them all around about a week ago.

My 58mm 93a radials have worn down to 54mm in the span of a month. I only skate PNW crust, no skateparks. Definitely wear down faster than 99a f4. That being said, I commute 4-8 miles a day, and i skate a looooottt of crusty hills. If you mostly skate parks and aren't commuting a ton, I do not think that rapid shinkage/wear would be an issue.

[MC3]

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Would it be safe to say the 93s wear down faster than the 99s and such? I’m sure it’s faster but is it a LOT faster? My friend’s been skating the 54s and within like 3 weeks they looked like they were 52s or less

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it is faster but its not that crazy. i rode mine for probably 15 sessions and they havent lost hardly anything off them. i spammed a shit load of feeble grinds so you can see that 1 wheel is starting to cone from the inside so i rotated them all around about a week ago.

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My 58mm radials have worn down to 54mm is the span of a month. I only skate PNW crust, no skateparks. Definitely wear down faster than 99a f4. That being said, I commute 4-8 miles a day, and i skate a looooottt of crusty hills. If you mostly skate parks and aren't commuting a ton, I do not think that rapid shinkage/wear would be an issue.

Ok, great to hear, thank you. Totally fine with faster wear, as its to be expected. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't extreme. Will hopefully pick some up in the coming days.

also, 4-8 mile daily commute on a board is wild. respect

[pinkeye fieri]

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Would it be safe to say the 93s wear down faster than the 99s and such? I’m sure it’s faster but is it a LOT faster? My friend’s been skating the 54s and within like 3 weeks they looked like they were 52s or less

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it is faster but its not that crazy. i rode mine for probably 15 sessions and they havent lost hardly anything off them. i spammed a shit load of feeble grinds so you can see that 1 wheel is starting to cone from the inside so i rotated them all around about a week ago.

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My 58mm radials have worn down to 54mm is the span of a month. I only skate PNW crust, no skateparks. Definitely wear down faster than 99a f4. That being said, I commute 4-8 miles a day, and i skate a looooottt of crusty hills. If you mostly skate parks and aren't commuting a ton, I do not think that rapid shinkage/wear would be an issue.

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Ok, great to hear, thank you. Totally fine with faster wear, as its to be expected. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't extreme. Will hopefully pick some up in the coming days.

also, 4-8 mile daily commute on a board is wild. respect

its pretty cathartic to go bart simpson and be a nuisance in the streets. seeing as i don't have a therapist atm, i will settle for GX1000 noob cosplay.

my toyota previa died about 1.5 months ago, forcing me to skate everywhere, and its the best thing that has happened for my mental health in years . helps with my fibromyalgia pain too.

about to skate to get a root canal 3 miles away this afternoon. we shall see if i make it back :p

the 93a handle crust and keep their speed noticeably better now that they are worn down a few mm. I assume its because the riding surface is now roughly 30mm and they started out with only a 25mm riding surface. desperately waiting for the 93a radial fulls to drop.  people talk about "tablet fulls" as a joke, but i would buy that shit in a heartbeat. the more urethane on the wheel, the more vibration absorbed and the smoother the ride, imo.

[Scab Picker]

Grimple collab:

[rawbertson.]

I have also been just "skating to places" instead of just going to spots and doing tricks lately (since i got these 93a wheels) i forgot how much fun it is. to have the bonus now of now having shitty cruiser wheels but actual good wheels that slide is huge. I wish I had these back in the day!

[pinkeye fieri]

anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

[Mbrimson88]

anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

Not sure of any future releases as 93 duro wheels were a bit of a surprise.


How wide are you wanting them?  OR what diameter?


The normal Radial in 58 mm is 38 mm wide, plenty full, at least more so than the 56 x 35, or 54 x 34 anyway.  That is wider than the same diameter as Conical Full 58 x 37mm, also same as Classic Full 58 x 38 mm too, for that matter only Radial has more surface contact.


* I have had all sizes of the Radial Full come through my hands, even skated a few sets of Radial Full and a set of Lock In Full which are quite nice on my wider board, so I do get what you are asking for.

[Cthulhu!]

Aw Grimplefires are lock-ins fulls, not a shape I like.

https://dlxskateshop.com/collections/skate-goods/products/spitfire-formula-four-grimple-head-wheel-99du

Furry classics are up too

https://dlxskateshop.com/collections/skate-goods/products/spitfire-formula-four-grimple-furry-wheel-99du

[Xen]

anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

Some around here testing the 97a in the OG classic shape. Kinda hoping for just a regular conical...most likely it's going to a Lock-INDOUBLEFULLRADIALBEYONDOMEGAPAWG or some shit.

[JimmyFive]

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anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

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Some around here testing the 97a in the OG classic shape. Kinda hoping for just a regular conical...most likely it's going to a Lock-INDOUBLEFULLRADIALBEYONDOMEGAPAWG or some shit.

Interesting! I wonder how the new 97a formula is going to skate. If the 93's are comparable to Bones X97 then maybe the new Spit 97's will feel more like X99s or harder..

[iw0]

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anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

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Some around here testing the 97a in the OG classic shape. Kinda hoping for just a regular conical...most likely it's going to a Lock-INDOUBLEFULLRADIALBEYONDOMEGAPAWG or some shit.

the year is 20XX; the conical full is now the slimmest wheel on the market

[Mbrimson88]

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anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

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Some around here testing the 97a in the OG classic shape. Kinda hoping for just a regular conical...most likely it's going to a Lock-INDOUBLEFULLRADIALBEYONDOMEGAPAWG or some shit.

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the year is 20XX; the conical full is now the slimmest wheel on the market

It is a funny thing, but does anyone remember when a few brands put out the super skinny wheels?

Maybe on the back of the tech rollerblade era molds, eg Coretech / Electric may not have been the only ones, but they had some super skinny ones out that had the shorter insides and seemed like they were only around for a minute anyway, thankfully.

Not talking the 1992-1993 small wheels era, but when a lot of brands were going wider, eg 52 mm diameter but 36 mm wide as per some I have from 1996, these guys were doing sub 30 mm width wheels that just looked ridiculous and were terrible to skate too.


I am pretty stoked on anything around 34 - 35 mm wide with rounder edges, but I also rounded down some other older Classics that were 52 mm originally and now being about 48 x 32 mm is actually a really good size and shape for small tech wheels, way better than the 43 mm Lil Beatdowns size for me anyway.

Can't think that wheels are going to get any wider than what is out currently, but who knows hey?!?

[Xen]

Pepperidge Fuckingfarms remembers


Autobahn Street slims (still available but they suck), all the AB-X wheels, Ricta super crystals, Old Darkstars, BONES V3s...what I really miss are the RICTA Nigel Super Slims. Such a great wheel.

*COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH

SPITFIRE: RADIAL SLIMS
*COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH

SNOT, mini logo, AB, all have slim wheels, 'thane is bunk though...

[gmld]

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anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

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Some around here testing the 97a in the OG classic shape. Kinda hoping for just a regular conical...most likely it's going to a Lock-INDOUBLEFULLRADIALBEYONDOMEGAPAWG or some shit.

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Interesting! I wonder how the new 97a formula is going to skate. If the 93's are comparable to Bones X97 then maybe the new Spit 97's will feel more like X99s or harder..

If you talking about the 97duro that spitfire released around 2 years agoes or something, im skating those in Classic shape.
They are so good, streets feel less rough and very good also in skatepark/smooth spots. They are still a street wheel like 99's but a bit smoother than 99's on streets.
I had the chance to step up on some 93's lately (my friend's setup) and they felt nice even if i tried them for a minute😁.. but even in a minute i could feel the rubbery feeling that every formula four has.. so i guess they could be pretty nice. They felt soft but rubbery, and they kinda do powerslides (i should skate them more to figure out better).

[rocklobster]

Pepperidge Fuckingfarms remembers


Autobahn Street slims (still available but they suck), all the AB-X wheels, Ricta super crystals, Old Darkstars, BONES V3s...what I really miss are the RICTA Nigel Super Slims. Such a great wheel.

*COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH

SPITFIRE: RADIAL SLIMS
*COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH**COUGH

SNOT, mini logo, AB, all have slim wheels, 'thane is bunk though...

I miss the 3 + 1 colored wheels, I'm usually potato yellow but this is a color I could get behind.

[fulfillthedream]

^ i had a few sets of those classic slims and they weren't the 3 white 1 colored


- ive been skating the 93a classics, i was a big fan of the 99s, tried the 97s but i felt the 97s didnt have the same slide the 99s did- i felt they did a good job with the 93s.

[Lou Strux]

^ i had a few sets of those classic slims and they weren't the 3 white 1 colored


- ive been skating the 93a classics, i was a big fan of the 99s, tried the 97s but i felt the 97s didnt have the same slide the 99s did- i felt they did a good job with the 93s.

The 97s don’t even have the slide the 93s have.
They for sure figured something out in the year & whatever between dropping the 97s & the 93s IMO, because the 93s release & slide much more like the 99s then the 97s do.
Looking forward to trying the rejiggered 97s when they drop.
Def not mad at these 93s, though.
They’ve more than earned their place on the set up they occupy.

[Whicker]

Tried 56mm radial 93s today. Much faster than the dragons i was using, very noticeable honestly! I would say only slightly harder for vibration in comparison but still very manageable on canada crust.

[Pappy Jones]

Man I am loving these 93a F4s. I bomb a long hill to work every day and I can slide so far like 99s and they even make that loud satisfying sound unlike the dragons did when I tried them. I exclusively skate street in the PNW and the added smoothness is much appreciated.

Perfect wheel in my opinion, I have the 54mm radials. Never messed with this shape before but now I’m a fan

[roba]

aight so i read the last few pages and i read mixed opinions about the durability but in full honesty the 93s do wear down faster, right?

[BhaktaDon]

Anyone use Nomads 95a or Slimeballs 95a or team riders 95a?   How do they slide and how do they do on rough roads and park?

[rawbertson.]

aight so i read the last few pages and i read mixed opinions about the durability but in full honesty the 93s do wear down faster, right?

for sure they wear down faster than 99a. if you skated these full time you could wear them down 4-5mm in a 2 months easily. Buddy said he did it in 1 (also using the board to commute )

thats why i just went to radial full 99a 58mm. shits gonna last forever and its more the super loud sound and feel i actually want. the speed is really insane. it doesnt absorb nearly as good but its ok i still go over some shitty stuff and the nice thing is your feet dont feel like you are vibrating out of place i feel like im still set up good enough to pop.

i dont skate shitty ground often enough to want the soft wheel full time. I am gonna get like 3 full lifetimes on these, once i lose like 4mm i am gona try to machine the sides down and make them into a new 54mm wheel and then maybe do the same once it hits 50mm. seems like such good value for your money especially with the price of wheels these days!

[gmld]

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^ i had a few sets of those classic slims and they weren't the 3 white 1 colored


- ive been skating the 93a classics, i was a big fan of the 99s, tried the 97s but i felt the 97s didnt have the same slide the 99s did- i felt they did a good job with the 93s.

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The 97s don’t even have the slide the 93s have.
They for sure figured something out in the year & whatever between dropping the 97s & the 93s IMO, because the 93s release & slide much more like the 99s then the 97s do.
Looking forward to trying the rejiggered 97s when they drop.
Def not mad at these 93s, though.
They’ve more than earned their place on the set up they occupy.

Dont you guys like the 97a slides?
Its strange because i think they are Amazing. Probably i feel them a bit heavy, but could Just be because i usually skate 52mm or smaller, the 97 i have were 56mm now probably 54 or something... But i think they slide pretty well, they slide a Little less than 99 (which is obvious because Is softer)

[cVlt of the hVffer]

Not a huge fan of the current 97s. Been using them in winter for indoor slippery spots but they are pretty sluggish and the slide isn't great. Looking forward to the improved 97s, coming out in a couple of months.

[bombsaway86]

Anyone use Nomads 95a or Slimeballs 95a or team riders 95a?   How do they slide and how do they do on rough roads and park?

I’ve had all 3, they’re fine. Slide is not great but they do well enough on rough and slick surfaces. They feel sluggish in smooth parks. Dragons and X formula (and I would assume Spitfire 93a) do everything a lot better

[limubai]

I will be incredibly bummed to lose the current 97a formula. I specifically like them because they slide less.

While skating transition, I have a bad tendency to slide out on the flat while at speed. Many a painful slam.

Running 58mm Conical Fulls in Spit’s current 97a is the best combination of speed and sticky that I have found. Those other 95a’s have plenty of grip but feel slow in the bowl. If there was a harder and faster wheel that was stickier, I would buy it in a second.

For my curb set up, I am running 99a Radials. Will try out 93a Radials next.

[gmld]

Not a huge fan of the current 97s. Been using them in winter for indoor slippery spots but they are pretty sluggish and the slide isn't great. Looking forward to the improved 97s, coming out in a couple of months.

I thought i was faster on the streets with 97a

[gmld]

I will be incredibly bummed to lose the current 97a formula. I specifically like them because they slide less.

While skating transition, I have a bad tendency to slide out on the flat while at speed. Many a painful slam.

Running 58mm Conical Fulls in Spit’s current 97a is the best combination of speed and sticky that I have found. Those other 95a’s have plenty of grip but feel slow in the bowl. If there was a harder and faster wheel that was stickier, I would buy it in a second.

For my curb set up, I am running 99a Radials. Will try out 93a Radials next.

Yeah i actually like 97a a lot!

[pinkeye fieri]

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anyone know when spitfire is going to release a "full" shape with the 93a formula? really hoping i don't have to buy another set of standard radials. we need some thicc 93a f4 potatoes!!!

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Not sure of any future releases as 93 duro wheels were a bit of a surprise.


How wide are you wanting them?  OR what diameter?


The normal Radial in 58 mm is 38 mm wide, plenty full, at least more so than the 56 x 35, or 54 x 34 anyway.  That is wider than the same diameter as Conical Full 58 x 37mm, also same as Classic Full 58 x 38 mm too, for that matter only Radial has more surface contact.


* I have had all sizes of the Radial Full come through my hands, even skated a few sets of Radial Full and a set of Lock In Full which are quite nice on my wider board, so I do get what you are asking for.

i appreciate your curiosity. My ideal wheel would have a 28-31mm riding surface in a 55-58mm diameter range. Radial Full/Lock-in full are sufficiently wide for my needs. My hope is that Spitfire would act on the overlap between the chunky shapes market and the 93a market. I was suprized that they did not capitalize on this with at least one of the initial 93a releases. Other than the f4 formula, the second defining characteristic (to me )that sets Spitfire apart from bones, oj, ricta etc, is that almost all of their wheel shapes are chunkier  w/wider riding surfaces than their competitors. even Radial slims vs Bones V2. There is something indescribeable about the way a wider riding surface allows me to feel more connected to the pavement under my feet. the increased textural feedback(more road under each wheel)  is a sensory pleasure that makes street skating feel more like surfing.  Maybe I am an outlier but I am hooked on that shit, and I think it plays a bigger role in the overall feel of f4s than many realize, and why a bones wheel will never feel as good under my feet as a Spitfire. My 58mm radials are sooo much faster/smoother now that they are worn down to 54mmx30mm, but in 2 weeks time the diameter will be too small and I will have to start all over again 25mm riding surface is just not enough to bring out the full potential of the f4 93a formula to make PNW crust feel like smooth cali pavement. imo