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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6690 on: September 02, 2024, 07:38:16 AM »
I've talked to a dozen skate shops and none have heard about getting any new formula 97s Classics. I didn't call @144p shop but will tomorrow and hopefully they have stock because I'd love to get a set.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6691 on: September 02, 2024, 07:54:33 AM »
We got restocked and the 53 classics are stickered with new formula. The 56 radial full we received were not.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6692 on: September 02, 2024, 07:55:45 AM »

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« Reply #6693 on: September 02, 2024, 08:02:13 AM »
Some formulas and even some different surfaces were hit and miss, take your example, compared to a new park near me and they were just right for that, took the edge off and I wasn't slip sliding all over the place on the 97s like I was on the usual 99 duro options, same shapes too. That concrete sealer / anti graf surface was a bit out there.

On another park, they just felt slow, but I have grown to accept that for softer duro wheels from almost all brands I have tried.
Yep the park is starting to show its age at least on the transition parts (left unsealed maybe?), exactly where the old 97A was slippery. At that park the speed is about the same for both. Same shape and size for me as well, conical full.

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« Reply #6694 on: September 02, 2024, 08:19:11 AM »
https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire.htm

@144p just ordered 53 97a, left a note in the order thanks for updating us

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6695 on: September 02, 2024, 08:32:30 AM »
We only have updated formula so anything we have in this size will be good.
We are closed Mondays but will get this out first thing Tuesday! Thanks!

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6696 on: September 02, 2024, 07:01:52 PM »
Finally tried the Reynolds soft sliders. I knew by how easy the bearings went in that it would be a no-go for me.

Felt like i was riding on quiet, brand new bearings and some flatground 180 tricks stuck when I needed them to slide a little.

Plus I like a crispier sounding setup and this makes it sound like a wet log. Formula 4's for me!!!

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6697 on: September 02, 2024, 09:14:15 PM »
Finally tried the Reynolds soft sliders. I knew by how easy the bearings went in that it would be a no-go for me.

Felt like i was riding on quiet, brand new bearings and some flatground 180 tricks stuck when I needed them to slide a little.

Plus I like a crispier sounding setup and this makes it sound like a wet log. Formula 4's for me!!!

Arent soft sliders also formula 4s or I am wrong?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6698 on: September 02, 2024, 09:58:38 PM »
Given the profuse amount of reviews most of which note the sound why would you buy them in the first place if sound is your criteria?

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« Reply #6699 on: September 03, 2024, 04:40:28 AM »
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Finally tried the Reynolds soft sliders. I knew by how easy the bearings went in that it would be a no-go for me.

Felt like i was riding on quiet, brand new bearings and some flatground 180 tricks stuck when I needed them to slide a little.

Plus I like a crispier sounding setup and this makes it sound like a wet log. Formula 4's for me!!!
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Arent soft sliders also formula 4s or I am wrong?
You’re right, the poster probably meant that they prefer a harder durometer.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6700 on: September 03, 2024, 06:19:03 AM »
thats why I just call Soft Sliders Formula 5  ;D saves the confusion
will be hilarious if spitfire ever does release a formula 5 though

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« Reply #6701 on: September 03, 2024, 06:25:25 AM »
thats why I just call Soft Sliders Formula 5  ;D saves the confusion
will be hilarious if spitfire ever does release a formula 5 though

That sounds even more confusing.

F4 comes in 93, 97, 99 and 100 at the moment.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6702 on: September 03, 2024, 09:27:47 AM »
 I use 99s at the park and using the 93’s when I’m skating most other things- these are like 3 sessions in and looks like a piece peeled out




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« Reply #6703 on: September 03, 2024, 10:33:05 AM »
All of my Spitfires that I got within the last 2 years have chunks taken out like that. Usually doesn't matter as I don't feel it, but it ends up happening right where the sidewall meets the flat especially from crooks or slides at rough spots.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6704 on: September 03, 2024, 10:57:47 AM »
Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6705 on: September 03, 2024, 01:58:29 PM »
I use 99s at the park and using the 93’s when I’m skating most other things- these are like 3 sessions in and looks like a piece peeled out



This will happen to any brand wheel and almost any duro as well - seen a lot, especially where some sharp edges on things take chunks out of wheels, or even just power slides on sharper edge road surface.

As much as some brands will replace wheels for people (more out of goodwill than anything else), it is down to the user and how as well as where they skate, more than anything to do with the manufacturing or production of the wheel itself.


One guy I know who constantly complained about his wheels of a certain brand went through maybe four or five other brands just because he said this brand was total shit or something like it - then had similar issues with all the other brands as well over a couple of years.  Turned out it was mostly due to screw edges that were sitting out a bit on his home made ledge box, but it wasn't until others skated the ledge box and had similar things happen.

The whole time he was blaming the wheels, for which I did call him out on it and then just ignored him. Some people just can't be helped, but any which way, it is more just an unfortunate situation of the environment.  On road surfaces I can't even feel chunks out or flatspots on some wheels, but I can absolutely feel every little issue on smooth parks or my ramp.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6706 on: September 03, 2024, 03:29:22 PM »
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I use 99s at the park and using the 93’s when I’m skating most other things- these are like 3 sessions in and looks like a piece peeled out

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This will happen to any brand wheel and almost any duro as well - seen a lot, especially where some sharp edges on things take chunks out of wheels, or even just power slides on sharper edge road surface.

As much as some brands will replace wheels for people (more out of goodwill than anything else), it is down to the user and how as well as where they skate, more than anything to do with the manufacturing or production of the wheel itself.


One guy I know who constantly complained about his wheels of a certain brand went through maybe four or five other brands just because he said this brand was total shit or something like it - then had similar issues with all the other brands as well over a couple of years.  Turned out it was mostly due to screw edges that were sitting out a bit on his home made ledge box, but it wasn't until others skated the ledge box and had similar things happen.

The whole time he was blaming the wheels, for which I did call him out on it and then just ignored him. Some people just can't be helped, but any which way, it is more just an unfortunate situation of the environment.  On road surfaces I can't even feel chunks out or flatspots on some wheels, but I can absolutely feel every little issue on smooth parks or my ramp.




This kept happening to me, it was a decapitated screw, on a box/ledge edge that was doing it, just the smallest of the smallest point sticking out.

Also, I know wheels are gonna lose bits here and there, it's a @$@#ing, what did you expect?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6707 on: September 03, 2024, 03:34:37 PM »
any 93a sliders yall not liking let me know, I’ll take off your hands. Wanting to try to replace some 53mm dragons

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6708 on: September 03, 2024, 04:04:24 PM »
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Finally tried the Reynolds soft sliders. I knew by how easy the bearings went in that it would be a no-go for me.

Felt like i was riding on quiet, brand new bearings and some flatground 180 tricks stuck when I needed them to slide a little.

Plus I like a crispier sounding setup and this makes it sound like a wet log. Formula 4's for me!!!
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Arent soft sliders also formula 4s or I am wrong?

Ya i meant back to the og formula 4s. 99s for me. it was such a noticeable difference for me. I need a crispy feeling setup not a clunky quiet one.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6709 on: September 03, 2024, 04:38:52 PM »
Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.

Where they all the 93’s or various others? I’ve never really seen chunks come out of my wheels before, I usually use 99 formulas fours- just my experience with these so far

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6710 on: September 03, 2024, 11:43:33 PM »
Like Brims said, this'll happen to any wheel, it's not a 93 duro thing. One of my 99 Radials lost a chunk exactly like that when I did powerslides down a crusty hill with small pebbles here and there.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6711 on: September 04, 2024, 12:27:38 AM »
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Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.
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Where they all the 93’s or various others? I’ve never really seen chunks come out of my wheels before, I usually use 99 formulas fours- just my experience with these so far

Happened to two sets of F4 99a lock-in fulls as well. When it happened the first time I contacted DLX warranty and they were kind enough to replace the set. When it happened again with the replacement set I just accepted it.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6712 on: September 04, 2024, 01:45:17 AM »
Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.
Same here.
Sir, I'm going to politely, but firmly, ask you and your common sense to leave this establishment.

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« Reply #6713 on: September 04, 2024, 05:34:56 AM »
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Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.
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Same here.
Are y'all breaking your wheels in before you take 'em to the crust? I'm finding everything seems to have a break-in period where it's not being pushed to performance tolerances out the package.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6714 on: September 04, 2024, 06:01:12 AM »
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Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.
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Same here.
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Are y'all breaking your wheels in before you take 'em to the crust? I'm finding everything seems to have a break-in period where it's not being pushed to performance tolerances out the package.

Yeah, I break in new wheels by cruising around a smooth park a bunch. That's exactly where my first set got cut up. The second time it happened after they were thoroughly broken in, it just seems to be bad luck. Like, if I hit a pebble the wrong way it's going to cut out a small piece of the wheel, no matter how broken in it is. But again, I don't really care because I can't tell a difference one way or another.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6715 on: September 04, 2024, 06:56:36 AM »
I see chipped wheels from every brand, people keep riding them and everything is fine.
I figure I’m sliding on rough ground, holding nose and tail slides as far as I can and sometimes hitting a sharp edge, it’s bound to happen. Has never affected performance. Also feel it’s the riders issue depending on the terrain. There are times where the wheels were to blame but people should look within and question if they were doing something that would cause it.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6716 on: September 04, 2024, 09:30:39 AM »
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Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.
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Same here.
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Are y'all breaking your wheels in before you take 'em to the crust? I'm finding everything seems to have a break-in period where it's not being pushed to performance tolerances out the package.
I just skate them, won't sweat about it.
Sir, I'm going to politely, but firmly, ask you and your common sense to leave this establishment.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6717 on: September 04, 2024, 10:00:19 AM »
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Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.
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Same here.
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Are y'all breaking your wheels in before you take 'em to the crust? I'm finding everything seems to have a break-in period where it's not being pushed to performance tolerances out the package.
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I just skate them, won't sweat about it.

Same, but I won't do speed checks or powerslides until I get some mileage and streat grim caked into them.

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« Reply #6718 on: September 04, 2024, 10:33:18 AM »
I always break in some new wheels on rough ground. Bomb some hills or push around the neighborhood. Then I nurse them for a session or two before any major slide action.

Those little chips and slices don't impact anything at all. I took some Dragons out on some rough hills last week and sliced them up in a couple of spots.

My theory is, wheels need a little roughening up before they are at peak resilience to flat spots.

I had one set of Radial Slim 101 F4s that sliced up pretty badly with wider than normal cracks and DLX replaced them but that's the only time I've ever had a warranty issue with F4s and I've had dozens of sets.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6719 on: September 04, 2024, 10:42:41 AM »
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Yeah, it's happened to the last 3 or 4 sets I skated as well. The first I returned, but when it kept happening I just went with it because there's no noticeable dip in performance, at least not for me.
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Same here.
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Are y'all breaking your wheels in before you take 'em to the crust? I'm finding everything seems to have a break-in period where it's not being pushed to performance tolerances out the package.
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Yeah, I break in new wheels by cruising around a smooth park a bunch. That's exactly where my first set got cut up. The second time it happened after they were thoroughly broken in, it just seems to be bad luck. Like, if I hit a pebble the wrong way it's going to cut out a small piece of the wheel, no matter how broken in it is. But again, I don't really care because I can't tell a difference one way or another.
Same, but still slightly irking. Need the professor's take. Maybe (tiny) glass pieces? I've had that stick into my wheels before. There is a reason...