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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6780 on: September 24, 2024, 06:16:10 AM »
Is it possible to purchase a 99d 52mm Radial shaped wheel somewhere? Smallest I could find is 53mm. Yeah I know it's only 1mm but I have a slight discomfort with uneven numbers. Maybe I should grow up.

Yes. https://orchardshop.com/products/spitfire-wheels-f4-formula-four-radial-99-52mm


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6783 on: September 24, 2024, 10:34:35 AM »
Just skated the F4 93 and boy I'm in love.
Way faster than 99, they hold speed for way longer and the sliding capabilities are great. Obvsly they won't bark like 99 but still there's something that's more than enough to make me happy. X99 didn't have this.
Most important feature is that my legs are not sore after skating and usually in mornings I wake up with bad back pain and this morning nothing.
Ain't skating anything else ever again.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2024, 10:30:09 PM by moonordie »
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6784 on: September 25, 2024, 06:47:36 AM »
Is it possible to purchase a 99d 52mm Radial shaped wheel somewhere? Smallest I could find is 53mm. Yeah I know it's only 1mm but I have a slight discomfort with uneven numbers. Maybe I should grow up.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6785 on: September 25, 2024, 07:18:00 AM »
@144p do you have any of the new 97 in conical full or radial?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6786 on: September 25, 2024, 07:35:08 AM »
Just skated the F4 93 and boy I'm in love.
Way faster than 99, they hold speed for way longer and the sliding capabilities are great. Obvsly they won't bark like 99 but still there's something that's more than enough to make me happy. X99 didn't have this.
Most important feature is that my legs are not sore after skating and usually in mornings I wake up with bad back pain and this morning nothing.
Ain't skating anything else ever again.

The old man reviews crack me up. Don't get me wrong, I am old and can't wait to try these wheels for the same reasons, but if I was 16 I'd be staying far far away from these geriatric formulas.

Finally put some bearings in my 93s... getting closer to actually skating them...

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6787 on: September 25, 2024, 08:52:31 AM »
Been going back and forth between 54 93s radials and 56 99f4 og classics in the same session at a few spots in the last few days. On the old man note at 43, my feet/arches/ankles don't feel as tight the next day when I only skate the 93s.

Brand new park, Metal ramps on smooth concrete with bad expansion joints, Crusty af asphalt school and an Old park that's starting to get some exposed aggregate in spots

99s bark, I like the sound rolling and love it in a slide. The rougher the ground the worse they carry speed. Pine needles and other debris are more noticeable. Ripples in concrete on the old pool/bowl are noticeable. 99s grip well enough on metal and revert fine. You feel the hit of cracks and metal ramps seams more, did loose a flat bar trick landing directly in a big ass seam.

93s are like floating on a magic carpet. I do hate how quiet they are, but damn I love barely having to push/pump. Even on the brand new park I felt the 93s carried speed better, I had to give less input. They slide great one smooth and rough surfaces. A tad too grippy on metal for me though, reverts on the mini I really had to push a bit. Expansion cracks are just a sound.
Was able to do some manual stuff on divoted concrete and asphalt that might as well be chip seal. I could not do anything on the 99s.






The old man reviews crack me up. Don't get me wrong, I am old and can't wait to try these wheels for the same reasons, but if I was 16 I'd be staying far far away from these geriatric formulas.


The it "saves my back" reviews are for sure a turn off to a 16 year old, but man I would have loved these for crust. I swear there are some flip in things that I would of got at Red Square that just weren't going on 101a. The 93s just roll so smooth over bumps. Get psyched for those spots things just didn't go before, they will now.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6788 on: September 25, 2024, 09:37:03 AM »
Skating taxes my back and ankles, but it's not from the wheels, it's from bending down and popping and then taking impact. These wheels barely influence that and I feel bummed if people are getting that wrecked from skating. Changing to cups with good insoles made a world of difference for extending session length for me and for being able to skate well more often.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6789 on: September 25, 2024, 09:47:35 AM »
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Just skated the F4 93 and boy I'm in love.
Way faster than 99, they hold speed for way longer and the sliding capabilities are great. Obvsly they won't bark like 99 but still there's something that's more than enough to make me happy. X99 didn't have this.
Most important feature is that my legs are not sore after skating and usually in mornings I wake up with bad back pain and this morning nothing.
Ain't skating anything else ever again.
[close]

The old man reviews crack me up. Don't get me wrong, I am old and can't wait to try these wheels for the same reasons, but if I was 16 I'd be staying far far away from these geriatric formulas.

Finally put some bearings in my 93s... getting closer to actually skating them...
For sure 16yo have no business with 93s.
Sir, I'm going to politely, but firmly, ask you and your common sense to leave this establishment.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6790 on: September 25, 2024, 10:16:56 AM »
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Just skated the F4 93 and boy I'm in love.
Way faster than 99, they hold speed for way longer and the sliding capabilities are great. Obvsly they won't bark like 99 but still there's something that's more than enough to make me happy. X99 didn't have this.
Most important feature is that my legs are not sore after skating and usually in mornings I wake up with bad back pain and this morning nothing.
Ain't skating anything else ever again.
[close]

The old man reviews crack me up. Don't get me wrong, I am old and can't wait to try these wheels for the same reasons, but if I was 16 I'd be staying far far away from these geriatric formulas.

Finally put some bearings in my 93s... getting closer to actually skating them...
[close]
For sure 16yo have no business with 93s.

If she's got that retirement money tho...

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6791 on: September 25, 2024, 04:43:51 PM »
it is faster than the 99a in the streets. it eats so much vibration you just fly. my setup feels kinda shitty with them now though because i wore them down so much. but they still fly and they are still like ~52/53mm wheels down from 56. it seems impossible to wear these wheels down evenly unless you were to rotate them every session or something. i have rotated mine 3 times and still have 1 smaller wheel i cant seem to catch the others up with but they are only like 1 mm behind.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6792 on: September 25, 2024, 10:42:32 PM »
it is faster than the 99a in the streets. it eats so much vibration you just fly. my setup feels kinda shitty with them now though because i wore them down so much. but they still fly and they are still like ~52/53mm wheels down from 56. it seems impossible to wear these wheels down evenly unless you were to rotate them every session or something. i have rotated mine 3 times and still have 1 smaller wheel i cant seem to catch the others up with but they are only like 1 mm behind.


I know it is different with everyone, or how people skate, but keeping the smallest one on the front heel side usually means the others end up that size soon enough.

Certainly seems like the softer wheels wear down a lot faster for some, which is interesting, but totally expected, when I was pushing around a carpark on an angle to come down and then back up to some parking blocks, so I would end up really putting the heat on the back pair more than the front ones on my 93s.

I don't go half as hard as most people usually though, so I am waiting for others I know who have the 93 duro wheels to let me know or show me their boards after a few solid sessions / a month or more, etc.

Some spots or places to skate are so much more coarse than others, especially the footpath type concrete or the playing courts, eg netball courts with their grippy surface just eat the softer wheels way more so than the usual harder wheels.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6793 on: September 25, 2024, 10:48:36 PM »
The general consensus to me seems to be that 93 are overall great but they wear down fast. Now my question is, how fast?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6794 on: September 25, 2024, 11:49:49 PM »
The general consensus to me seems to be that 93 are overall great but they wear down fast. Now my question is, how fast?

This of course totally depends on the terrain and how often you skate. Rough ashphalt combined with several sessions per week with powerslides and curb skating = you'll lose millimeters in no time.

Then again, indoors or smooth surfaces with lotsa transition = they'll last long.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6795 on: September 26, 2024, 04:48:06 AM »
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The general consensus to me seems to be that 93 are overall great but they wear down fast. Now my question is, how fast?
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This of course totally depends on the terrain and how often you skate. Rough ashphalt combined with several session per week with powerslides and curb skating = you'll loose millimeters in no time.

Then again, indoors or smooth surfaces with lotsa transition = they'll last long.
Your first scenario would be mine. Let's see how long till they shrink. If they last me 3 months I'd be ok. 6 sounds great.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6796 on: September 26, 2024, 07:09:16 AM »
I would imagine this is always the downside of a softer wheel. Tough to get slide and feel and durability.
When a 99/97 f4 lasts so long it’s tough to
Not expect that from every wheel they make.
If you skate a lot and sliding is a regular part of your skating I would expect a few months and they would be significantly smaller.

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« Reply #6797 on: September 26, 2024, 07:43:52 AM »
@144p are you getting the new 97 in in a conical full or radial somewhere in the 53-54 range?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6798 on: September 26, 2024, 06:25:27 PM »
 great 93 feedback first hand.

“Wear down fast” is as subjective as “how fast” . Every use case is different.  And every bearing is different.

Appreciate the feedback
« Last Edit: September 27, 2024, 02:21:10 AM by Daydream »

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6799 on: September 27, 2024, 12:46:17 AM »
The durability is definitely not on par with 99s, but as @144p said, that simply comes with the territory. It's fair to point out that the 93s wear down faster, but seriously complaining about it is like bitching that your sports car doesn't have good gas mileage.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6800 on: September 27, 2024, 03:29:34 AM »
The durability is definitely not on par with 99s, but as @144p said, that simply comes with the territory. It's fair to point out that the 93s wear down faster, but seriously complaining about it is like bitching that your sports car doesn't have good gas mileage.
Amazing analogy, lado the amount of time that 99 lasts is ridiculous.
Love my 93. Game changers if you're on the older side.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6801 on: September 27, 2024, 07:33:31 AM »
A softer wheel will always wear faster especially when you're intentionally sliding it more because you actually can.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6802 on: September 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PM »
@144p are you getting the new 97 in in a conical full or radial somewhere in the 53-54 range?


Right now 97 duro replacements for existing 97 duro stock come in:

Classic 53, 54, 56

Conical Full 54, 56,58

Radial Full 54, 56, 58


Pedro special, Radial 55, 57 all on new formula


Then of course it is down to who ever actually orders them in, as well as new formula over old formula, so I am guessing a conical Full in 54 might be the closest to that option, or just go the Pedro 55 mm Radial to be sure.

No Conical Full 54 mm in stock when I just checked:

https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire.htm


One set of the Pedro 55 mm Radials left right now:

https://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Wheels/Spitfire/p/Spitfire-Formula-Four-Pedro-Delfino-Turbo-Radial-55mm-97a-x85054825.htm


* Sorry I am being too keen, as usual, but thought it was just easier to look and see what was in stock right now, to help.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6803 on: September 29, 2024, 11:43:57 AM »
How do the 93s do at parks that are smooth but unpolished? Think memorial and rob field skateparks in SD.

I do a lot a slide/revert tricks on transition.

Also having some feedback from the wheel is important to me.  Dragons felt “numb” as in I couldn’t feel anything from the board like if I was hitting coping or cracks etc

I have some of the new 97s on ice but haven’t opened them yet

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6804 on: September 29, 2024, 03:12:26 PM »
As I’m very active in this thread I will say that when the  shop gets new stock and the formulas are updated I will note the website as the 97 formula is the new version.
Everything we have sans the Pedro radial is old formula.
We haven’t needed much in the past few weeks.
I’ll update this topic when we do.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6805 on: September 29, 2024, 03:25:46 PM »
How do the 93s do at parks that are smooth but unpolished? Think memorial and rob field skateparks in SD.

I do a lot a slide/revert tricks on transition.

Also having some feedback from the wheel is important to me.  Dragons felt “numb” as in I couldn’t feel anything from the board like if I was hitting coping or cracks etc

I have some of the new 97s on ice but haven’t opened them yet


Skated a few older concrete parks on the 93 duro wheels, for which they worked well enough, but I was maybe just not used to them and they felt a little bouncy overall, which was a bit off putting for me at that time, especially on bowl and half pipe runs, even though they worked fine for everything really.

I have not even seen the new 97 duro wheels, but I would think they would be a better option on any skatepark like that, just from what I have heard anyway.


The 93 duro wheels were way more fun on carpark and street type sessions, compared to transition sessions and I skate way more transition than I do street and flat / ledge / rail type of stuff.

From that I would say if you already have the new 97s, give them a go first and see, before rushing out to get a set of the 93 duro wheels, but it is fun to have all the options on various boards I have set up - maybe too many boards, very much the same with different duro wheels on them.

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« Reply #6806 on: September 29, 2024, 03:45:54 PM »
How do the 93s do at parks that are smooth but unpolished? Think memorial and rob field skateparks in SD.

I do a lot a slide/revert tricks on transition.

Also having some feedback from the wheel is important to me.  Dragons felt “numb” as in I couldn’t feel anything from the board like if I was hitting coping or cracks etc

I have some of the new 97s on ice but haven’t opened them yet

I skate that park somewhat regularly and the 93 are faster there for sure. The 97 53mm Classic are about the smallest/hardest wheel I'd want there. I also don't really optimize for or like that park but if I were to I'd pick a wider and bigger wheel.

The 97 do not chirp or anything on that surface, but have a more controlled slide and revert.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6807 on: September 29, 2024, 10:17:10 PM »
^^ I’ll try the 97s and give them to a friend if I don’t like them.

Exciting time for wheels if you could call it that lol, it’s like cores and formula four and stf were the only developments in wheels since I started skating.

Something about chipped yellow wheels and not even knowing the shape of it just worked though

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6808 on: September 30, 2024, 07:27:25 AM »
^^
Something about chipped yellow wheels and not even knowing the shape of it just worked though

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #6809 on: September 30, 2024, 12:22:09 PM »
today's daily dose is the spitfire 93 reynolds:

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html