Spitfire formula four

[Too Frank To Fred]

All shapes tend to go up in width as they go up in height. Not always to the exact proportions but pretty close...

[rawbertson.]

I had Conical Fulls they are great
they are very good for locking in but they still have some edge to them. One of my friends told me he gave away a set of Radial 93a because he only rides conical full!

I remember a few years ago, it seemed like the most popular wheel, and everyone was riding them. Now it seems like there is a mix of classic, radial, conical full, with a sprinkle of radial full. Has anyone else noticed this? classic seems to be the dominator.

[Rick Trapasso]

I had Conical Fulls they are great
they are very good for locking in but they still have some edge to them. One of my friends told me he gave away a set of Radial 93a because he only rides conical full!

I remember a few years ago, it seemed like the most popular wheel, and everyone was riding them. Now it seems like there is a mix of classic, radial, conical full, with a sprinkle of radial full. Has anyone else noticed this? classic seems to be the dominator.

Most people still Riding wide wheels with more square edges near me.

I'm a classic guy personally.

I I just love the look/feel.

[camel filters]

Been daydreaming about conical fulls 99a for over a year now and I'm finally gonna get some

First spitfire wheel too I've been riding these wheels I can't even remember the brand for like 5+ years

Any dirt on 'em?

Can you post a pic of your old wheels? I get a weird stock seeing well worn wheels and 5 plus year old wheels sound up my alley.

[swongolianbbq]

Ideally, 54mm 99a classics on one setup, and 60mm 97a conical fulls on the other

They need to re-release those 60mm 97a Carlyle CFs... Or the T-Funk 60mm 97a Radial Fulls...

It would be dope if they came out with 93a 60mm Conical Fulls

I'm gonna try the 58mm Radial 93s, I really like the 54's I've had in both classic and radial.

[Meathook]

I have a (conspiracy) theory that they won’t make the 93a in conical full or any square edge because of chunking.  I noticed when I was on the 93 radials earlier this year they started chunking out a bit pretty early on, nothing too noticeable when skating but I only rode them for about a month.  I think it would be substantially more prominent on a square edge wheel, resulting in warranty claims or people thinking something’s wrong with the wheels.  The fuck do I know though.

[swongolianbbq]

I have a (conspiracy) theory that they won’t make the 93a in conical full or any square edge because of chunking.  I noticed when I was on the 93 radials earlier this year they started chunking out a bit pretty early on, nothing too noticeable when skating but I only rode them for about a month.  I think it would be substantially more prominent on a square edge wheel, resulting in warranty claims or people thinking something’s wrong with the wheels.  The fuck do I know though.

Nah you probably right though, I had that same thought as well

Ive had a few sets of the old 97s, I hope I like the new 97s.

[Too Frank To Fred]

There are some Radial Full 93s on the way in Spring that might suffice. I know I'll pick some up.

[swongolianbbq]

I feel like the width of a radial full with the 93's will slide so good, hell yeah

[BL0B]

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I have a (conspiracy) theory that they won’t make the 93a in conical full or any square edge because of chunking.  I noticed when I was on the 93 radials earlier this year they started chunking out a bit pretty early on, nothing too noticeable when skating but I only rode them for about a month.  I think it would be substantially more prominent on a square edge wheel, resulting in warranty claims or people thinking something’s wrong with the wheels.  The fuck do I know though.

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Nah you probably right though, I had that same thought as well

Ive had a few sets of the old 97s, I hope I like the new 97s.

well bring on the classic fulls or radial fulls then, deluxxe!

id love a classic full in any hardness.

[scab]

There are some Radial Full 93s on the way in Spring that might suffice. I know I'll pick some up.

Great news.

Paging all euro pals: Has anyone seen any reformulated 97s other than the Pedro wheel over here yet? From what I gather there are already reformulated classics, conical fulls als radial fulls out in the US, but I'm not sure if they made it across the pond yet.   

[rawbertson.]

I have a (conspiracy) theory that they won’t make the 93a in conical full or any square edge because of chunking.  I noticed when I was on the 93 radials earlier this year they started chunking out a bit pretty early on, nothing too noticeable when skating but I only rode them for about a month.  I think it would be substantially more prominent on a square edge wheel, resulting in warranty claims or people thinking something’s wrong with the wheels.  The fuck do I know though.

my friend told me that the shop owner at his local said they tried conical fulls during the testing phase and they were indeed chunking. but this is a gigantic game of telephone at this point, so take that with a grain of salt.

I have never seen any other wheels besides the Pedro with the new 97 in Canada.

[rikki]

I think Spitfire is missing an opportunity to create a new potentially popular product (the new formula 97) with their non-existent marketing.

Or are we still in an early pre-launch phase? The Delfino hasn't been exactly blown out of proportions.

It's a great f*cking wheel.

[BeachChicken]

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I have a (conspiracy) theory that they won’t make the 93a in conical full or any square edge because of chunking.  I noticed when I was on the 93 radials earlier this year they started chunking out a bit pretty early on, nothing too noticeable when skating but I only rode them for about a month.  I think it would be substantially more prominent on a square edge wheel, resulting in warranty claims or people thinking something’s wrong with the wheels.  The fuck do I know though.

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my friend told me that the shop owner at his local said they tried conical fulls during the testing phase and they were indeed chunking. but this is a gigantic game of telephone at this point, so take that with a grain of salt.

I have never seen any other wheels besides the Pedro with the new 97 in Canada.

Oddly all of my recent Spits are chunking pretty bad regardless of shape or duro. It's pretty fucking annoying and I have traced it to specific skatepark ledges that have cracks after them. Doesn't impact ride quality but looks like shit. Asphalt seems to do it to my 99s pretty bad.

[yozzlebot87]

All shapes tend to go up in width as they go up in height. Not always to the exact proportions but pretty close...

They seem to actually intentionally change the proportions of the wheels as they get larger, prioritising a higher RidingSurface:Diameter ratio. I've got a big excel spreadsheet with the relative Diameter:Width and Diameter:Riding surface on all spitfire wheels, and you can see a lot of wheels suddenly jump up to have more width relative to their Diameter around 55mm+.

Very noticable on conical fulls, having a set of 54mm and 55mm in hand they don't look like the same shape.

Anyway, here are some weird wheels from 2012.

[TooManyPros]

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All shapes tend to go up in width as they go up in height. Not always to the exact proportions but pretty close...

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They seem to actually intentionally change the proportions of the wheels as they get larger, prioritising a higher RidingSurface:Diameter ratio. I've got a big excel spreadsheet with the relative Diameter:Width and Diameter:Riding surface on all spitfire wheels, and you can see a lot of wheels suddenly jump up to have more width relative to their Diameter around 55mm+.

Very noticable on conical fulls, having a set of 54mm and 55mm in hand they don't look like the same shape.

Anyway, here are some weird wheels from 2012.

"chemically bonded"

You mean glue?

[rikki]

"chemically bonded"

You mean glue?

"Chemically bonded" is what me and my drug buddies would call each other back in the halcyon days of our youth.

[back smith]

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All shapes tend to go up in width as they go up in height. Not always to the exact proportions but pretty close...

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They seem to actually intentionally change the proportions of the wheels as they get larger, prioritising a higher RidingSurface:Diameter ratio. I've got a big excel spreadsheet with the relative Diameter:Width and Diameter:Riding surface on all spitfire wheels, and you can see a lot of wheels suddenly jump up to have more width relative to their Diameter around 55mm+.

Very noticable on conical fulls, having a set of 54mm and 55mm in hand they don't look like the same shape.

Anyway, here are some weird wheels from 2012.

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"chemically bonded"

You mean glue?

Glue works with a surface level weak attraction aka adhesion, like when you put on griptape and just cut off the excess.

Chemical bonding is a strong atom level attraction that forms a new compound from the two materials, like when you sand down the edges after cutting off the excess griptape.

[Jewel Runner]

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Been daydreaming about conical fulls 99a for over a year now and I'm finally gonna get some

First spitfire wheel too I've been riding these wheels I can't even remember the brand for like 5+ years

Any dirt on 'em?

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Interesting to note, Conical fulls become even fuller above 54mm. The 55mm CF is way wider than the 54, I ride 55mm conical fulls pretty much exclusively. Feels like a conical full full, +8% riding surface or so

This has been eating me up since I read it...

I can't decide on what to get: a 54mm or a 56mm for a 144 indy

I'm scared the 56mm will be a huge wheel covering like half of the hanger lol

Is 54 a small wheel?

[swongolianbbq]

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Been daydreaming about conical fulls 99a for over a year now and I'm finally gonna get some

First spitfire wheel too I've been riding these wheels I can't even remember the brand for like 5+ years

Any dirt on 'em?

[close]

Interesting to note, Conical fulls become even fuller above 54mm. The 55mm CF is way wider than the 54, I ride 55mm conical fulls pretty much exclusively. Feels like a conical full full, +8% riding surface or so

[close]

This has been eating me up since I read it...

I can't decide on what to get: a 54mm or a 56mm for a 144 indy

I'm scared the 56mm will be a huge wheel covering like half of the hanger lol

Is 54 a small wheel?

54 is right smack dab in the middle, pretty much. I skate 54's, 149's, and 8.25 decks. I think 55+ works better on 149+ but there was a time where a lot of people I knew were skating 55s, 56s on 139s. I'd say go with 54's though especially if you're getting wider wheels

[Micki Free]

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Been daydreaming about conical fulls 99a for over a year now and I'm finally gonna get some

First spitfire wheel too I've been riding these wheels I can't even remember the brand for like 5+ years

Any dirt on 'em?

[close]

Interesting to note, Conical fulls become even fuller above 54mm. The 55mm CF is way wider than the 54, I ride 55mm conical fulls pretty much exclusively. Feels like a conical full full, +8% riding surface or so

[close]

This has been eating me up since I read it...

I can't decide on what to get: a 54mm or a 56mm for a 144 indy

I'm scared the 56mm will be a huge wheel covering like half of the hanger lol

Is 54 a small wheel?

[close]

54 is right smack dab in the middle, pretty much. I skate 54's, 149's, and 8.25 decks. I think 55+ works better on 149+ but there was a time where a lot of people I knew were skating 55s, 56s on 139s. I'd say go with 54's though especially if you're getting wider wheels

Id also go 54s. With the height of indys theyll fit well. Ive always liked smaller wheels so I actually dont like 54s right out of the box cause they feel a little too big for me, but after a handful of sessions they wear down a little and feel smoother since the contact patch widens. 54s are pretty standard for a lot of people, i dont see many people riding 56s locally.

[rawbertson.]

I rode 56mm on 139 for very long time. even done 58mm on it. it works fine Indys are nice and tall too. but I do think 54mm makes more sense for the setup you have. those are still nice and fast too. I just like getting the bigger wheel cause more speed + lasts longer . Also i really like the way it looks with massive setup.

[Micki Free]

I rode 56mm on 139 for very long time. even done 58mm on it. it works fine Indys are nice and tall too. but I do think 54mm makes more sense for the setup you have. those are still nice and fast too. I just like getting the bigger wheel cause more speed + lasts longer . Also i really like the way it looks with massive setup.

Damn that seems crazy to me lol. I have some 58mm OJs and even just putting them up next to the axles on my 144 indys makes the trucks seem tiny, couldnt imagine them on 139s. Whatever works works i guess!

[DERBY]

blew this chunk off the 93s today. should i be trippin?

[Too Frank To Fred]

Black 93s?

[DERBY]

Black 93s?

dyed em

[Too Frank To Fred]

Nice. I wonder if that had anything to do with it? But softer wheels for sure will chunk easier... Your chunk is also in a maddening place...  you should email a claim (providing you haven't voided it by dyeing them). DLX should sort you out.

[DERBY]

Nice. I wonder if that had anything to do with it? But softer wheels for sure will chunk easier... Your chunk is also in a maddening place...  you should email a claim (providing you haven't voided it by dyeing them). DLX should sort you out.

thanks for the looks. hopefully warranty goes thru. man these are favourite wheels 😢

[rikki]

I'd like to remind everyone that the new formula 97s are fucking great. I just recently had the longest bs 50-50 grind in aeons on them in a plywood indoor bowl, so for anyone asking if they stick on metal coping: they absolutely do not.

[rawbertson.]

blew this chunk off the 93s today. should i be trippin?

Wow that is huge
Was there any metal angle iron involved? Screw sticking out?