Spitfire formula four

[Chalupa]

Just got some 53mm Classic Wides. What a beautiful shape. I know we all say it all the time but a regular full line of Classic Fulls would be a heavenly offering.

DLX DUDS are you listening? Swet Tims again?

Are they new or old stock? Also, do you have a shop link or chart with dimensions?

[Mbrimson88]

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Just got some 53mm Classic Wides. What a beautiful shape. I know we all say it all the time but a regular full line of Classic Fulls would be a heavenly offering.

DLX DUDS are you listening? Swet Tims again?

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Are they new or old stock? Also, do you have a shop link or chart with dimensions?

Classic Full shape?

I would imagine they are stock from the last Spitfire catalog:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall-2025/


If you search the words CLASSIC FULL CHART in this thread a lot of info comes up, but this is the pic with the relevant sizes from that last drop too:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/fall25/05-sf-fl25-d3.jpg






* The funniest thing with the Classic Full shape is they were always mis listed in the larger sizes, 56 and up, but also it is important to note that the smaller sizes, up to 54 mm are really only half a mm wider than the regular wheels, so from 55 and up, they went a lot wider.

Either way, they have been my go to for a while now as well, more so in the bigger sizes, but the Bighead shape is also a good one, which has just had the Radioactive graphics out recently, wheels in 54 mm natural colour, which are 34.6 mm wide and a good shape too.


Hope that helps.


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer-2025/


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer25/sf-sm25-d2-radioactive-bh.jpg






** These are the most common wheels I like to ride - the wider rounder profiles, so I am pretty keen to see more.

[The Huffer]

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Just got some 53mm Classic Wides. What a beautiful shape. I know we all say it all the time but a regular full line of Classic Fulls would be a heavenly offering.

DLX DUDS are you listening? Swet Tims again?

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Are they new or old stock? Also, do you have a shop link or chart with dimensions?

https://dlxskateshop.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-shroom-bighead-classic-wheel-99du

[Chalupa]

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Just got some 53mm Classic Wides. What a beautiful shape. I know we all say it all the time but a regular full line of Classic Fulls would be a heavenly offering.

DLX DUDS are you listening? Swet Tims again?

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Are they new or old stock? Also, do you have a shop link or chart with dimensions?

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https://dlxskateshop.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-shroom-bighead-classic-wheel-99du

Right on. I thought there was a new shape called “Classic Wide.”

I agree that there should be a regular line of Classic Fulls. After they kind of discontinued it, and before the Shroom Bighead Classic Full, I think the last one was a Max Palmer Classic Full in 53/55mm, only available through the Limosine site, which was over $60 shipped for one set. I think there might have been some other pro wheels that came in the shape, but I can’t remember. The last pro Classic Full that I distinctly remember was a Lance Mountain set that came with one pink wheel, but those were apparently in 2019, after searching online. Time flies.

[The Huffer]

Yeah FULLS not WIDES.... not sure how I made the slip... perhaps they were called Wides at one point or I am finally senile.

[Mbrimson88]

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Just got some 53mm Classic Wides. What a beautiful shape. I know we all say it all the time but a regular full line of Classic Fulls would be a heavenly offering.

DLX DUDS are you listening? Swet Tims again?

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Are they new or old stock? Also, do you have a shop link or chart with dimensions?

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https://dlxskateshop.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-shroom-bighead-classic-wheel-99du

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Right on. I thought there was a new shape called “Classic Wide.”

I agree that there should be a regular line of Classic Fulls. After they kind of discontinued it, and before the Shroom Bighead Classic Full, I think the last one was a Max Palmer Classic Full in 53/55mm, only available through the Limosine site, which was over $60 shipped for one set. I think there might have been some other pro wheels that came in the shape, but I can’t remember. The last pro Classic Full that I distinctly remember was a Lance Mountain set that came with one pink wheel, but those were apparently in 2019, after searching online. Time flies.

I think there have been a few, as you said the Max Palmer wheels, then some other colaborations with other brands like a black red swirl or something similar, but very limited stock and only on the brand shop site, not available to anyone else.

The Grosso wheels and then the two versions of the Lance wheels were the last ones I got (2019), before the shop I was running at the time closed due to covid in March 2020.

Then they brought out the Ransom series, 54 and 56 mm sizes as per this link, which I never saw locally but some other places had them, but things were a bit hit and miss in mid to late 2020 as well.

There have been very few normal Classic Full wheels since then, up until this recent release, that is.


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring-2020/


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring20/5-sf-spring-20-dr-1-ransom-mb.jpg

[hiljentaa]

Repeaters was the last widely available Classic Full release I think. Was ~2021-22 I think.

52mm natural, 53mm black, 54mm natural. I bought the 54s, wish I got the 52s.

[The Huffer]

Repeaters was the last widely available Classic Full release I think. Was ~2021-22 I think.

52mm natural, 53mm black, 54mm natural. I bought the 54s, wish I got the 52s.

53 and 56 Shrooms were and are still available.

[typeischeap]

May have been posted before...CF with the original Spitfire swirl graphic got me...

https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/board-accessories/products/fa-x-spitfire-formula-4-conical-full-gold

[Chalupa]

May have been posted before...CF with the original Spitfire swirl graphic got me...

https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/board-accessories/products/fa-x-spitfire-formula-4-conical-full-gold

They had those for a while. I got a set of the gold 54mm to get free shipping for the black canvas AA Authentic Highs, which came out in spring of 2020 during COVID.

[Mbrimson88]

Repeaters was the last widely available Classic Full release I think. Was ~2021-22 I think.

52mm natural, 53mm black, 54mm natural. I bought the 54s, wish I got the 52s.

Yes that is right - from the Summer 2021 catalog, but I should have said that I was after the 56mm size of Classic Full wheels, more so than anything else.

It is funny though, cause as Frank / Huffer said, the most current drop only has the red / black swirl in 56mm which is a cool colourway, but a bit too out there for some people who just want the natural 56mm Classic Full wheel again.

I guess the smaller sizes are more popular so are more common, which makes sense they would have more of those too.  That profile pic I added at the end is a good overall size wheel.


Link here for the Repeaters:

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer-2021/

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer21/sf-sm21-repeaters-capsule.jpg

[Mooseknuckle666]

So what’s the difference and function of radials compared to classic fulls now since they are on the market radials lock in a little better I guess?

[Slave IV]

So what’s the difference and function of radials compared to classic fulls now since they are on the market radials lock in a little better I guess?

Radials have smaller radius edges and more riding surface. They should lock in a bit better.

[Chalupa]

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So what’s the difference and function of radials compared to classic fulls now since they are on the market radials lock in a little better I guess?

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Radials have smaller radius edges and more riding surface. They should lock in a bit better.

Classic Fulls actually have slightly more riding surface currently but Radials might have in the past. DLX only started putting wheel specs in the past couple years, so I’m not sure if or when they changed. Everything else said is on point.

56mm Radial: 35mm width / 21.5mm riding surface
56mm Classic Full: 37 mm width / 23mm riding surface

[Slave IV]

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So what’s the difference and function of radials compared to classic fulls now since they are on the market radials lock in a little better I guess?

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Radials have smaller radius edges and more riding surface. They should lock in a bit better.

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Classic Fulls actually have slightly more riding surface currently but Radials might have in the past. DLX only started putting wheel specs in the past couple years, so I’m not sure if or when they changed. Everything else said is on point.

56mm Radial: 35mm width / 21.5mm riding surface
56mm Classic Full: 37 mm width / 23mm riding surface

Thanks for the correction. I couldn’t find the comparison on the current shapes diagrams on their website so I found an older one. Either way, the question about lock in pertains to the edge and side more than the riding surface. They are very similar for the most part but personally, I’d pick what’s more important to me and go with Classics or Conicals over Radials since Radials seem more of an in between.

[rawbertson.]

IMO if you are doing more complicated tricks, go for the more rounded edge (classic)
if you are comfortable with your tricks and just going for pure lock in, take the more squared edge (radial is nice inbetween, or conical is like tablet)
wider riding surface if you deal with more crust (full shapes are better)
since i ride a lot of shitty ground i like to go a little bigger too
i found out 60 was kinda too big even but i still might get it again  especially for classic shape

[Mbrimson88]

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So what’s the difference and function of radials compared to classic fulls now since they are on the market radials lock in a little better I guess?

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Radials have smaller radius edges and more riding surface. They should lock in a bit better.

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Classic Fulls actually have slightly more riding surface currently but Radials might have in the past. DLX only started putting wheel specs in the past couple years, so I’m not sure if or when they changed. Everything else said is on point.

56mm Radial: 35mm width / 21.5mm riding surface
56mm Classic Full: 37 mm width / 23mm riding surface

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Thanks for the correction. I couldn’t find the comparison on the current shapes diagrams on their website so I found an older one. Either way, the question about lock in pertains to the edge and side more than the riding surface. They are very similar for the most part but personally, I’d pick what’s more important to me and go with Classics or Conicals over Radials since Radials seem more of an in between.

So the funniest thing with some of the wheel dimensions is that they do change considerably going up in size, so comparing something in 52, it could be different to 54, which could also be quite different to 56 mm sizes.

Example 1:  The Classic Full shapes are very close to Classics up to 54 mm, then they go much wider in 56 an 58.

Example 2:  Radials go up fairly comparably to 56, then get much wider in 58.


If you were to check and measure 54 mm size wheels in all options, the Bighead is actually the widest, with Radials wider than all the Classic or rounded variants in the riding surface, with only Conical Full shapes being wider there.  That is not taking into account all the other shape options, just the ones mentioned above, with Conical Full and Bighead shapes added in to compare.


For all relevant wheels in a 54 mm size, here are the comparable dimensions (info from previous charts):


Classic 54 x 33.6 with 16.4 riding surface

Classic Full 54 x 34 with 19 riding surface

Radial  54 x 34 with 20.5 riding surface

Conical Full 54 x 34 with 22 riding surface


Bighead 54 x 34.6 with 17.4 riding surface



Posts from last year with more size chart info here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg4445234#msg4445234

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=68020.msg4436347#msg4436347

[moonordie]

Trying the 54mm Durao lock in.
I think I hate them

[Mbrimson88]

Trying the 54mm Durao lock in.
I think I hate them

You have had Conical Full before, eg the Kanfoush 53 mm wheels, so for just one session, try turning them to graphic inside and see how they skate.  After that you can do whatever you like with them, but I was so over them after the first session the right way round, I just had to see if they could work the other way, which felt way better to me.

Previously whenever anyone has traded in Lock Ins, I have rounded off the flat back on them and they worked way better, but without modifying them, riding them graphic in actually worked really well for me.

Apart from that, I have never been that interested in that shape, but they are wider now than what they were before, so I had to see what they were like in this new form and 54 mm is a good size for me too.

[bsmanual]

Spitfire themselves havent figured out the exact shapes of the Classic Full. But it is the undercover best shape out. Just dont expect to find in store too often. You are going to have to go online




It varies even more.

[swongolianbbq]

Spitfire themselves havent figured out the exact shapes of the Classic Full. But it is the undercover best shape out. Just dont expect to find in store too often. You are going to have to go online




It varies even more.

Top chart is accurate for today. I don't know when the last time they had a full run of those was. Do you know when that second chart is from? Hell, regular 56mm classics are and have been 35mm wide for a while. Crazy to think the 58s on that classic full chart are the same width

[moonordie]

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Trying the 54mm Durao lock in.
I think I hate them

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You have had Conical Full before, eg the Kanfoush 53 mm wheels, so for just one session, try turning them to graphic inside and see how they skate.  After that you can do whatever you like with them, but I was so over them after the first session the right way round, I just had to see if they could work the other way, which felt way better to me.

Previously whenever anyone has traded in Lock Ins, I have rounded off the flat back on them and they worked way better, but without modifying them, riding them graphic in actually worked really well for me.

Apart from that, I have never been that interested in that shape, but they are wider now than what they were before, so I had to see what they were like in this new form and 54 mm is a good size for me too.

Had 3 sessions, straight to Vinted 😅

[Southernmost]

A couple months into skating the 93 Reynolds classics and they feel great, my only complaint is I can’t do crooked grinds anymore. Used to be a go to trick. When the wheel touches the board and surface I’m grinding it usually comes to a hault as soon as I get into a pinch. Anyone else experience this or is it just me?

[swongolianbbq]

A couple months into skating the 93 Reynolds classics and they feel great, my only complaint is I can’t do crooked grinds anymore. Used to be a go to trick. When the wheel touches the board and surface I’m grinding it usually comes to a hault as soon as I get into a pinch. Anyone else experience this or is it just me?

Had this happen with the radial 93s. On metal skatepark ledges it's worse, street ledges are better. I waxed the inside of the wheel and it was fine. I never wax skatepark obstacles though, I'll just put wax on my nose/tail cause I think it's more polite lol

It's why I stick with classic shape 93s now, they grind a little faster. Try rubbing some wax on the inside of the wheels and see if that helps

[theloniousmonk]

A couple months into skating the 93 Reynolds classics and they feel great, my only complaint is I can’t do crooked grinds anymore. Used to be a go to trick. When the wheel touches the board and surface I’m grinding it usually comes to a hault as soon as I get into a pinch. Anyone else experience this or is it just me?

I agree that there is a learning curve with some pinch tricks with 93s. Dragons are more sticky than the 93s and I’ve had similar issues with sticking on crooks and the board climbing its way out of feeble on rails using dragons.
While I can still crook on the 93s I hear you, and maybe waxing the wheel well as well as a little more butter on the ledge would work? Pulling for you to get your crooks back and still be able to enjoy the smooth roll of the 93s

[Mbrimson88]

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Spitfire themselves havent figured out the exact shapes of the Classic Full. But it is the undercover best shape out. Just dont expect to find in store too often. You are going to have to go online




It varies even more.

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Top chart is accurate for today. I don't know when the last time they had a full run of those was. Do you know when that second chart is from? Hell, regular 56mm classics are and have been 35mm wide for a while. Crazy to think the 58s on that classic full chart are the same width

Quite simply, yes there has always been issues with the specs on some info sheets, but thankfully the more current info has the correct sizes of all the wheels.

That old wheel spec chart was from when Radial Slims were still around, see the pic below, but they never updated it once throughout the years when Classic Full wheels were around - same chart even on the Grosso and Lance wheels from 2019, mainly with the right dimensions up to 54 mm but needed corrections on the 56 and 58 mm sizes.


As per old info I posted and linked in the post above, this is the actual info for Classic Full wheels:


My own previously tabled wheel measurements:

Classic Full chart correct to 54mm and measurements just taken again on wheels I have:

52       33       18
53       33.5    18.5
54       34       19
54.5    35       19.5
56       37       23
58       38       24


*  The 54.5 were the Cardiel specials, just in case anyone was confused and the bigger sizes from my own measurements of wheels I have in 56 and 58 mm sizes from the first run with the blue graphic.


The full chart that small part was from, pre 2020 at best guess:





Correct measurements from more recent info:

[rawbertson.]

interesting, some shapes of classic full are actually skinnier overall than their Classic counterpart (the bigger 2 sizes, and just barely) but of course they still have a wider riding surface

[swongolianbbq]

Useless information alert

State of the market / era

The most popular/commonly available sizes seem to be

53mm & 54mm (5/5)

Followed by 52mm & 56mm (4/5)

Then 58mm & 60mm (3/5)

And after that 48mm, 50mm, 51mm, & 55mm (2/5)

Basis being formula four classics across all the different duros

[GashBandicoot]

Alright guys my 52 classics are worn down to where I struggle locking into everything. Looking to go up in size to maybe a 56 in 99a. Never had anything larger than a 54 radial and conical full so could use some recs. What shapes do you guys like in 56mm for smoother concrete parks, coping, and those rounded metal ledges? I'm leaning towards classics right now since they'll be going on to Indy 144s and I want to keep as much hangar real estate as I can.

[MMongrel]

Alright guys my 52 classics are worn down to where I struggle locking into everything. Looking to go up in size to maybe a 56 in 99a. Never had anything larger than a 54 radial and conical full so could use some recs. What shapes do you guys like in 56mm for smoother concrete parks, coping, and those rounded metal ledges? I'm leaning towards classics right now since they'll be going on to Indy 144s and I want to keep as much hangar real estate as I can.

Classics might be your best bet since lots of the more square wheels ramp up in riding surface after 55. I picked up OG Classics in 54 and although the listed size doesn't seem much wider when looking at the size graph I was surprised how much smaller and skinnier they looked when in comparison to a worn OG 55's.