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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #900 on: December 02, 2020, 04:46:06 PM »
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Sounds sick, thanks for posting. It's fallen out of fashion again, and thankfully so because it was so over-saturated around 2013, but I'll always have a place in my heart for power violence.
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Dude it got so bad around 2012-2013. I had started writing a book about powerviolence when I was 18, I was trying to do as comprehensive of a history on it as possible. It was sick, I interviewed Andrew bettie from no comment and Dallas from crossed out and a few of the old heads in the scene. But about four years in, circa 2013, I just got burned out on it so badly I completely abandoned it (granted, I wasnít writing it full time, I was still on active duty but I dedicated a lot of time and money that I basically just threw away).

That being said, I have the golden harvest hardcore logo, that spazz made, tattooed on the ditch of my left arm. No shame whatsoever.

To keep it on topic, hereís dead language. Members of no comment, low threat profile, and iron lung.

https://youtu.be/YNVM-zhRFY4
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Goddamn. I literally just had a powerviolence 're-visiting' day like two days ago just going through all the stuff I really liked when I was heavy into it. I definitely through on this dead language LP! Andrew beadies vocals are so great.

Grindkingrims and freelancevagrant thank you for having excellent taste in hardcore

Does that mindless mutant EP have casey from Yaphet kotto/look back in laugh on it? and Do you have that interview with the dude from Crossed out? They're a band with little to no info surrounding them(from what I remember) so it would be cool to hear more about them

on a completely different note - it's been getting cold here so I have been listening to a bunch of unwound haha. they were one of the best bands ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM8_nbSR5J8

Sorry for the double post, but I just saw this.

Yes, that line up for that mindless mutant ep is as follows

Vocals-carl cardova from fatigue
Bass-brian stern from California love/lbal/talk is poison
Guitar- casey watson from yaphet kotto/lbal
Drums-hirax max ward from spazz/plutocracy/scholastic deth

I can try and find the interview, itís somewhere on an old computer at my parents house so it will be a while. Hereís what I remember off hand, he was a planet of the apes fan, so thatís where they got the intro to practiced hatred from their split with man is the bastard. (From beneath the planet of the apes Iím pretty sure). He owns shampoo company called ovation and I think he does horse shampoo also but I canít remember, but he did say he skated damn near every day at the Encinitas park in the late 80s/early 90s. Sorry I canít remember more dude!

Appreciate the compliment, you clearly have great taste as well!
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #901 on: December 02, 2020, 05:41:44 PM »
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For whatever reason Spotify decided to play Jerome's Dream the other night. I haven't listened to that band in at least 15 years and ignored the reunion but I was surprised by how much I enjoyed listening to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxETObP4FRg
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Huge jeromes dream fan, when I was in a screamo band we covered itís more like a message to you. I was so hyped on Jeff smiths vocals whenever we recorded live I wouldnít use a mic and for most live shows I wouldnít use one either. Back when I had Social media I reached out to Eric and asked if it was okay if we covered it and he said ya only if I can listen to it, he was stoked when he heard it and I think thatís like the pinnacle of my music making.

That is epic haha. I just listened to some songs off their newer album the other day. It was pretty cool. I really enjoyed that last release they did before they initially split up^^

not hardcore really but this band has always reminded of that last JD release and what they could've gone on to do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gm3DZSwVjQ

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #902 on: December 03, 2020, 01:20:48 AM »
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Sounds sick, thanks for posting. It's fallen out of fashion again, and thankfully so because it was so over-saturated around 2013, but I'll always have a place in my heart for power violence.
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Dude it got so bad around 2012-2013. I had started writing a book about powerviolence when I was 18, I was trying to do as comprehensive of a history on it as possible. It was sick, I interviewed Andrew bettie from no comment and Dallas from crossed out and a few of the old heads in the scene. But about four years in, circa 2013, I just got burned out on it so badly I completely abandoned it (granted, I wasnít writing it full time, I was still on active duty but I dedicated a lot of time and money that I basically just threw away).

That being said, I have the golden harvest hardcore logo, that spazz made, tattooed on the ditch of my left arm. No shame whatsoever.

To keep it on topic, hereís dead language. Members of no comment, low threat profile, and iron lung.

https://youtu.be/YNVM-zhRFY4
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Goddamn. I literally just had a powerviolence 're-visiting' day like two days ago just going through all the stuff I really liked when I was heavy into it. I definitely through on this dead language LP! Andrew beadies vocals are so great.

Grindkingrims and freelancevagrant thank you for having excellent taste in hardcore

Does that mindless mutant EP have casey from Yaphet kotto/look back in laugh on it? and Do you have that interview with the dude from Crossed out? They're a band with little to no info surrounding them(from what I remember) so it would be cool to hear more about them

on a completely different note - it's been getting cold here so I have been listening to a bunch of unwound haha. they were one of the best bands ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM8_nbSR5J8
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Sorry for the double post, but I just saw this.

Yes, that line up for that mindless mutant ep is as follows

Vocals-carl cardova from fatigue
Bass-brian stern from California love/lbal/talk is poison
Guitar- casey watson from yaphet kotto/lbal
Drums-hirax max ward from spazz/plutocracy/scholastic deth

I can try and find the interview, itís somewhere on an old computer at my parents house so it will be a while. Hereís what I remember off hand, he was a planet of the apes fan, so thatís where they got the intro to practiced hatred from their split with man is the bastard. (From beneath the planet of the apes Iím pretty sure). He owns shampoo company called ovation and I think he does horse shampoo also but I canít remember, but he did say he skated damn near every day at the Encinitas park in the late 80s/early 90s. Sorry I canít remember more dude!

Appreciate the compliment, you clearly have great taste as well!

damn, missed this as well! (sorry for double post)

Nice, that line up is great. I am diggin that ep

and no worries about the interview! haha just wanted to check. That is super random about the dude from crossed out starting a shampoo company haha, pretty cool though. thanks for sharing

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #903 on: December 03, 2020, 06:43:24 AM »
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For whatever reason Spotify decided to play Jerome's Dream the other night. I haven't listened to that band in at least 15 years and ignored the reunion but I was surprised by how much I enjoyed listening to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxETObP4FRg
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Huge jeromes dream fan, when I was in a screamo band we covered itís more like a message to you. I was so hyped on Jeff smiths vocals whenever we recorded live I wouldnít use a mic and for most live shows I wouldnít use one either. Back when I had Social media I reached out to Eric and asked if it was okay if we covered it and he said ya only if I can listen to it, he was stoked when he heard it and I think thatís like the pinnacle of my music making.

Haha, I used to do the same thing live. It sucked. I remember not liking that JD release at the time because the vocals weren't extreme enough for me but now I think it is waaaaay better than the screamier stuff.

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #904 on: December 03, 2020, 01:21:00 PM »
The live tracks on the Crossed Out discography sound so good but it's so awkward when they blast through a song and then pause for way too long and the singer says some awkward chit chat. It's like somewhere in the 90s bands forgot that you should either play through your songs as fast as possible, have some kind of interludes, or even just ring out feedback between songs. Nothing worse than silent pauses between songs in hardcore. The atmosphere just gets sucked out of the room.
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #905 on: December 04, 2020, 06:46:01 AM »
Man havenít listened to screams/ powerviolence in a minute but I loved Jeromeís dream/ crosses our both

https://youtu.be/1WUpZScG0jQ

This is probably the biggest rager Iíve heard this year

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« Reply #906 on: December 04, 2020, 07:58:59 AM »
shoutouts to all the yaphet kotto/lbal/crossed out heads

this is one of my most heard lps. i still rep this ragged ass yk hoodie that looks like a black metal cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLjnCxnFaQ8

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #907 on: December 04, 2020, 08:06:27 AM »
this is obviously a lot newer, but i've worn this 7" out thoroughly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COJ2FD-o3PQ&ab_channel=CristianCamilo
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #908 on: December 04, 2020, 10:34:55 AM »
shoutouts to all the yaphet kotto/lbal/crossed out heads

this is one of my most heard lps. i still rep this ragged ass yk hoodie that looks like a black metal cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLjnCxnFaQ8

Shouts to you Frank!

That was the first yaphet kotto record I heard, first meeting arrangement hooked me, then torn pictures came on and it was a fucking wrap. To this day one of my favorite records Iíve ever heard.

My buddy mark was in a band called moldar that were heavily influenced by yaphet. He went on to be in summer vacation and winter break. Fun fact, we became friends at a graf orlock/comadre/ghostlimb show where I complimented his mindless mutant shirt.

For prosperity, hereís a few more bangers, from moldar, graf, comadre, and ghostlimb.

https://youtu.be/5Hvui7IoNkA

https://youtu.be/3o67Xm2OYZY

https://youtu.be/yyXrwzbiOME (Me and my ex are both in that picture hahah)

https://youtu.be/4jRayXkj7DM
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #909 on: December 04, 2020, 11:32:37 AM »
Man havenít listened to screams/ powerviolence in a minute but I loved Jeromeís dream/ crosses our both

https://youtu.be/1WUpZScG0jQ

This is probably the biggest rager Iíve heard this year

Thom! I've missed you.

This is sick, thanks for posting. Kind of reminds me of Warthog with Blazing Eye vocals and no breakdowns, just rage.
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« Reply #910 on: December 04, 2020, 11:50:49 AM »
this is obviously a lot newer, but i've worn this 7" out thoroughly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COJ2FD-o3PQ&ab_channel=CristianCamilo

Man, Hatred Surge were so good. Deconstruction was a huge album for me. Hatred Surge > Iron Lung for me and it's not even close.

Rank the brutal supremacy bands: Hatred Surge, Iron Lung, Scapegoat and Mind Eraser.

For me: Mind Eraser, Hatred Surge, Scapegoat, Iron Lung.
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #911 on: December 04, 2020, 12:31:22 PM »
i have seen iron lung a lot and honestly they may be my favorite band to date to see. so with that being said i’m going iron lung > scapegoat > and then i can go either way with hatred surge and mind eraser. i dislike making that list because it makes it sound like i don’t like one of those bands. haha

the scapegoat songs were my favorite on the comp though
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« Reply #912 on: December 04, 2020, 12:34:41 PM »
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #913 on: December 04, 2020, 12:46:53 PM »
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this is obviously a lot newer, but i've worn this 7" out thoroughly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COJ2FD-o3PQ&ab_channel=CristianCamilo
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Man, Hatred Surge were so good. Deconstruction was a huge album for me. Hatred Surge > Iron Lung for me and it's not even close.

Rank the brutal supremacy bands: Hatred Surge, Iron Lung, Scapegoat and Mind Eraser.

For me: Mind Eraser, Hatred Surge, Scapegoat, Iron Lung.


Really bummed I never got to see hatred surge, they were like a younger Texas version of despise you.

Brutal supremacy ranking: mind eraser, iron lung, hatred surge, scapegoat.

In terms of newer bands, the two I really into were sea of shit and water torture.

https://youtu.be/EFjXVGFvb6U

https://youtu.be/dozPWHEGSEM

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #914 on: December 04, 2020, 01:51:01 PM »
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Man havenít listened to screams/ powerviolence in a minute but I loved Jeromeís dream/ crosses our both

https://youtu.be/1WUpZScG0jQ

This is probably the biggest rager Iíve heard this year
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Thom! I've missed you.

This is sick, thanks for posting. Kind of reminds me of Warthog with Blazing Eye vocals and no breakdowns, just rage.


Thank u buddy missed u too :)

Agreed! Just full on intensity!

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« Reply #915 on: December 04, 2020, 02:19:02 PM »
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this is obviously a lot newer, but i've worn this 7" out thoroughly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COJ2FD-o3PQ&ab_channel=CristianCamilo
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Man, Hatred Surge were so good. Deconstruction was a huge album for me. Hatred Surge > Iron Lung for me and it's not even close.

Rank the brutal supremacy bands: Hatred Surge, Iron Lung, Scapegoat and Mind Eraser.

For me: Mind Eraser, Hatred Surge, Scapegoat, Iron Lung.

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Really bummed I never got to see hatred surge, they were like a younger Texas version of despise you.

Brutal supremacy ranking: mind eraser, iron lung, hatred surge, scapegoat.

In terms of newer bands, the two I really into were sea of shit and water torture.

https://youtu.be/EFjXVGFvb6U

https://youtu.be/dozPWHEGSEM

Hatred Surge one of the best bands to come outta Texas... i still beat myself up over not seeing them. They played so many small venues here in Houston...

Faiza also did this band, Mindless... pretty sick

https://youtu.be/JdNFlFOuQV4


Speaking of minderaser, i remember downloading Conscious Unconscious off one of those black metal blogs way back when.. played it to death


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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #916 on: December 04, 2020, 02:49:31 PM »
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this is obviously a lot newer, but i've worn this 7" out thoroughly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COJ2FD-o3PQ&ab_channel=CristianCamilo
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Man, Hatred Surge were so good. Deconstruction was a huge album for me. Hatred Surge > Iron Lung for me and it's not even close.

Rank the brutal supremacy bands: Hatred Surge, Iron Lung, Scapegoat and Mind Eraser.

For me: Mind Eraser, Hatred Surge, Scapegoat, Iron Lung.

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Really bummed I never got to see hatred surge, they were like a younger Texas version of despise you.

Brutal supremacy ranking: mind eraser, iron lung, hatred surge, scapegoat.

In terms of newer bands, the two I really into were sea of shit and water torture.

https://youtu.be/EFjXVGFvb6U

https://youtu.be/dozPWHEGSEM
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Hatred Surge one of the best bands to come outta Texas... i still beat myself up over not seeing them. They played so many small venues here in Houston...

Faiza also did this band, Mindless... pretty sick

https://youtu.be/JdNFlFOuQV4


Speaking of minderaser, i remember downloading Conscious Unconscious off one of those black metal blogs way back when.. played it to death

I think they stopped chaos in tejas the year I moved to Austin and Iím still bummed I never got to fucking go. Faiza is so fucking cool, my wife worked with her for a while and I was geeking out so hard when I met her.

Faiza also had a band called body pressure that was super sick, I wanna say I saw them with gloss.
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #917 on: December 17, 2020, 07:59:53 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaScwZ-1DM

exactly the type of hardcore i dig... sloppy, 'recorded in a tin can-style' punk rock/hardcore that sounds like some sort of Angry Samoans/Tapeworm/Mentally Ill type of shit. 

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« Reply #918 on: December 27, 2020, 07:19:13 PM »
Gulch had my favorite hardcore record released this year
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« Reply #919 on: December 28, 2020, 03:45:28 AM »
Just my two cents: Remember around 2013 ish when there was way too many powerviolence bands and it the sound started to get bastardized as the fast parts were just thrown in as space filler between ridiculous breakdowns? It seemed like anyone who would have been listening to metalcore or beatdown was just playing with power violence as the genre du jour.

I'll have to listen again, but on first one or two listens, Gulch seemed like the same thing being applied to the more recent trends in hardcore: d-beat and stompy floortom hardcore (Glue, SHIT, Bib, etc.). Like on the surface level it's trying to have ties to the punk side, but the focus is way too breakdown based.


While I'm throwing out dumb opinions, I also feel like Gag are easily the worst of that wave of stompy hardcore with semitone riffs. Glue and SHIT seem(ed) to do similar stuff just way better (to my ears, opinion, opinion...)
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« Reply #920 on: December 28, 2020, 10:01:56 AM »
Gag has one of my favorite records this year also. I'm easily entertained 😆
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« Reply #921 on: December 28, 2020, 10:06:27 AM »
What's some of your favorites this year?

Just my two cents: Remember around 2013 ish when there was way too many powerviolence bands and it the sound started to get bastardized as the fast parts were just thrown in as space filler between ridiculous breakdowns? It seemed like anyone who would have been listening to metalcore or beatdown was just playing with power violence as the genre du jour.

I'll have to listen again, but on first one or two listens, Gulch seemed like the same thing being applied to the more recent trends in hardcore: d-beat and stompy floortom hardcore (Glue, SHIT, Bib, etc.). Like on the surface level it's trying to have ties to the punk side, but the focus is way too breakdown based.


While I'm throwing out dumb opinions, I also feel like Gag are easily the worst of that wave of stompy hardcore with semitone riffs. Glue and SHIT seem(ed) to do similar stuff just way better (to my ears, opinion, opinion...)

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« Reply #922 on: December 28, 2020, 03:06:15 PM »
Ah maybe I'm wrong! That's just what struck me the last couple of times I tried to listen to Gulch or Gag. But I'm probably being too harsh...


Some of my favorites this year in no order:

Public Acid  - Condemnation
The Annihilated Demo
Permission - Organized People Suffer
Laffing Gas - It's a Beautiful Day in the Gulch
Barcelona - Residuos Del Ultrasonido
Clock of Time - Pestilent Planet
The Shits - Punishment
Kobra - Confusione


Did a quick run through the past year of this thread to help me look and remembered this compilation, which probably affected me more than any other release this year:

https://nunfivebeethoven.bandcamp.com/album/hiding-from-the-landlord
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« Reply #923 on: December 28, 2020, 03:08:56 PM »
Some good stuff on your list, will scroll though
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« Reply #924 on: December 29, 2020, 07:14:16 AM »
Some good stuff on your list, will scroll though

What are some of your favorites from this past year? :)
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« Reply #925 on: December 29, 2020, 08:40:33 PM »
Just my two cents: Remember around 2013 ish when there was way too many powerviolence bands and it the sound started to get bastardized as the fast parts were just thrown in as space filler between ridiculous breakdowns? It seemed like anyone who would have been listening to metalcore or beatdown was just playing with power violence as the genre du jour.

I'll have to listen again, but on first one or two listens, Gulch seemed like the same thing being applied to the more recent trends in hardcore: d-beat and stompy floortom hardcore (Glue, SHIT, Bib, etc.). Like on the surface level it's trying to have ties to the punk side, but the focus is way too breakdown based.


While I'm throwing out dumb opinions, I also feel like Gag are easily the worst of that wave of stompy hardcore with semitone riffs. Glue and SHIT seem(ed) to do similar stuff just way better (to my ears, opinion, opinion...)


I definitely agree with the powerviolence thing, that little trend got old so fast to the point where I was tired of going to local shows cause thatís all there was going on

Gulch definitely seems to follow a formula of mixing breakdowns/ mosh parts etc into a lot of what they do and it feels a little superfluous sometimes but I also really enjoy some of their material too after listening more... thereís substance to all of that stuff between the stomp riffs

I would also agree on GAG although theyíre really fun to watch live thereís definitely other bands doing it way better (and glue is a primary example of that)

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On the note of stompy hardcore and good 2020 releases I just wanted to also throw this in there

https://youtu.be/EB-odpedvgo

Really liked this album

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« Reply #926 on: December 30, 2020, 12:51:24 PM »
Thom, you keep showing up every couple of weeks to agree with me and post ripping hardcore and I'll keep gnarring you.
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« Reply #927 on: December 30, 2020, 01:02:39 PM »
I still think "No Vision" is one of the best punk songs of the 2010s.

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #928 on: December 31, 2020, 06:02:42 PM »
Not really into hardcore much lately but I picked up these the other day not knowing what they were and am pretty stoked on them. Guess it's kinda post hardcore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8az_KUGCqTI
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Julia 1994- I especially dig this record.



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« Reply #929 on: December 31, 2020, 08:13:53 PM »
Nice - I know some members from Julia went onto to play in Unbroken who are great. That closure record looks familiar too but can't put my finger on where I may have heard it/seen it before