That was kid of a weird interview. It always seems like he's talking about how he's so disappointed in whatever area of skateboarding. Always concentrating on the negative things. Culturally skateboarding has been changing for years now. Most people probably always started skating because it looked cool and fun, and then the ones that felt a need for public acceptation dropped out at some point, while the ones that had a need to feel outside of the mainstream society stuck by. Now those who need to be accepted by the mainstream can be a part of skating more and more, which also shows in the popularity of Nike, Adidas, etc. The current generation feels that it's amazing and an honor that Nike is interested in our activity and skateboarding can be seen as a legit activity, while a few decades ago skaters wouldn't have given a fuck. Things always change and to me that doesn't matter, because I think that the core is the people who skate because it's fun, no because it's mainstream or anti-mainstream.