Injury advice?

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

I don't know if this has been done before, but given the fact that we all have been hurt skating, probably in similar ways, how about a thread where people give their own tips on how to deal with injuries common in skateboarding? I saw one in another thread about stiff tendons and using a hot water/ cold water soak to help it heal, which actually seemed very helpful. Anybody else have any advice or home remedies on anything like that?
Some shit is obvious, like RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation), but I bet it will still help others.

[mikefork]

it works better when your ankles aren't already rolled but try calf(sp?) lifts
before you skate try stretching your ankle out like it stretches out when it rolls. do it slow both ways n both ankles and when you shold have a bad rolled ankle nothing gets too fucked up

[MAGIK INC GROUPIE]

Good topic.

Preventive measures are good too.

Leg workouts will do wonders.

Light stretches are good, but never rock back and forth. You're just stretching and you don't want
to pull anything.

Plenty of water and home cooked meals.

As far as injuries go. you gotta let it heal, but you gotta
also strengthen it. Ankle braces are maybe good for a bit
but you don't want to rely on them cause you won't be building
up strength.

Building back strength is very important.

Rubbing is always good and full movement is good.

Glucosamine chondroitan is good for the old men like me.

Shark cartilage is good to if you're old.

The hot and cold thing does work well. It inlflames it so ice
can reach all the areas.

Don't drink beer while it's bruised bad.

If it's a bad injury, rehab is the most important thing.
Doctors wil discourage you by saying you should stop
skating but it's usually bs. They say that cause most
people don't have the willpower to do all they can in
rehab so they don't want to give someone false hope.

I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

If you hurt your ankle and have started to skate again
while it's still tender, DON'T SKATE THOSE TYPE
OF SHOES WITH SQUARE EDGES ON SOLE!!! YOUR ANKLE
ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO PULL IT BACK AND IT'LL
GIVE. Round edge shoes are better cause they won't
force your ankle to roll again. Also, this sounds crazy
but I prefer to wear shoes loose if my ankle is tender.
That way, if it does want to fold your shoe will fold and
your foot won't follow it all the way.

I'll think of others later...

[mikefork]

I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

as in creative visualization?

[otis b driftwood]

Good topic.

Preventive measures are good too.

Leg workouts will do wonders.

Light stretches are good, but never rock back and forth. You're just stretching and you don't want
to pull anything.

Plenty of water and home cooked meals.

As far as injuries go. you gotta let it heal, but you gotta
also strengthen it. Ankle braces are maybe good for a bit
but you don't want to rely on them cause you won't be building
up strength.

Building back strength is very important.

Rubbing is always good and full movement is good.

Glucosamine chondroitan is good for the old men like me.

Shark cartilage is good to if you're old.

The hot and cold thing does work well. It inlflames it so ice
can reach all the areas.

Don't drink beer while it's bruised bad.

If it's a bad injury, rehab is the most important thing.
Doctors wil discourage you by saying you should stop
skating but it's usually bs. They say that cause most
people don't have the willpower to do all they can in
rehab so they don't want to give someone false hope.

I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

If you hurt your ankle and have started to skate again
while it's still tender, DON'T SKATE THOSE TYPE
OF SHOES WITH SQUARE EDGES ON SOLE!!! YOUR ANKLE
ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO PULL IT BACK AND IT'LL
GIVE. Round edge shoes are better cause they won't
force your ankle to roll again. Also, this sounds crazy
but I prefer to wear shoes loose if my ankle is tender.
That way, if it does want to fold your shoe will fold and
your foot won't follow it all the way.

I'll think of others later...

your internet shop hasn't worked for 3 days.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

glucosamine is good shit.

Here's one that might save you some doctor bills.
If you pee blood due to a kidney shot treatment is really easy. Drink TONS of water and piss as often as you can, it may seem gross or scary, but it won't make you bleed anymore than you already are, and keeping it in could give you a clot. Try to get a lot of bedrest, and stay kind of reclined, this will put less pressure on your kidney, allowing it to heal.
If you hit your kidney and can't pee, or if you start off pissing blood and then stop peeing, go to a doctor, you might have a clot in your bladder or urethra or something, which is serious and needs medical attention immediately, they'll probably give you a catheter. Before you go though, try to drink a ton of water and stand under the warm show for a while, you might be able to blast the clot out.
Besides that though, kidney shit is pretty easy to remedy at home, and if you don't have insurance it will save you a ton of money iin shit like catscans or other imaging stuff. If you do have insurance, you can go in and they will tell you pretty much what I told you, give you some mri's or whatever, then force you to stay there until you pee in a bottle, but in the end, if your doctor is anything like mine, they'll give you as much vicodin as you ask for.

[MAGIK INC GROUPIE]

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Good topic.

Preventive measures are good too.

Leg workouts will do wonders.

Light stretches are good, but never rock back and forth. You're just stretching and you don't want
to pull anything.

Plenty of water and home cooked meals.

As far as injuries go. you gotta let it heal, but you gotta
also strengthen it. Ankle braces are maybe good for a bit
but you don't want to rely on them cause you won't be building
up strength.

Building back strength is very important.

Rubbing is always good and full movement is good.

Glucosamine chondroitan is good for the old men like me.

Shark cartilage is good to if you're old.

The hot and cold thing does work well. It inlflames it so ice
can reach all the areas.

Don't drink beer while it's bruised bad.

If it's a bad injury, rehab is the most important thing.
Doctors wil discourage you by saying you should stop
skating but it's usually bs. They say that cause most
people don't have the willpower to do all they can in
rehab so they don't want to give someone false hope.

I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

If you hurt your ankle and have started to skate again
while it's still tender, DON'T SKATE THOSE TYPE
OF SHOES WITH SQUARE EDGES ON SOLE!!! YOUR ANKLE
ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO PULL IT BACK AND IT'LL
GIVE. Round edge shoes are better cause they won't
force your ankle to roll again. Also, this sounds crazy
but I prefer to wear shoes loose if my ankle is tender.
That way, if it does want to fold your shoe will fold and
your foot won't follow it all the way.

I'll think of others later...

[close]

your internet shop hasn't worked for 3 days.

NO FUCKING WONDER I HAVEN'T SOLD A TEE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS!!! ARRRRRRGHH!
Thanks dude! Funny you mentioned cause I'm making new shit right now for my new site.
I hate that site sooo much and wish I would have just avoided that. The first day it was up it crashed for 3 days. The new ish will be a part of 48blocks.com and will be sold online thru them. Still only $14 per tee. We'll have a little commercial on there as soon as Welsh is done with his Lakai part. Our team's good and will be on another level as soon as I get some backing. Already talked to your favorite skaters but need to write em checks. Dudes are down to ride for me and I'm very pleased with what we've done with so little.

Shameless plug #18387458-lol

[otis b driftwood]

hook up international shipping and you've got a deal.

[MAGIK INC GROUPIE]

not even sure how to configure that on that crappy site. There's no option for it.
I'll be sure to bring that up when the new site's done. I imagine around $10 it'll be.

[otis b driftwood]

well do it soon, i'm getting to that age where i want to start wearing some skate stuff again. make sure you do xxl.

to stay on topic, if you tweak your ankle - loose shoes, and write your name and the alphabet with your foot when your watching tv, radox baths and those flip-flops with pimples on the bottom.

[liquid swords]

Good topic.

Preventive measures are good too.

Leg workouts will do wonders.

Light stretches are good, but never rock back and forth. You're just stretching and you don't want
to pull anything.

Plenty of water and home cooked meals.

As far as injuries go. you gotta let it heal, but you gotta
also strengthen it. Ankle braces are maybe good for a bit
but you don't want to rely on them cause you won't be building
up strength.

Building back strength is very important.

Rubbing is always good and full movement is good.

Glucosamine chondroitan is good for the old men like me.

Shark cartilage is good to if you're old.

The hot and cold thing does work well. It inlflames it so ice
can reach all the areas.

Don't drink beer while it's bruised bad.

If it's a bad injury, rehab is the most important thing.
Doctors wil discourage you by saying you should stop
skating but it's usually bs. They say that cause most
people don't have the willpower to do all they can in
rehab so they don't want to give someone false hope.

I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

If you hurt your ankle and have started to skate again
while it's still tender, DON'T SKATE THOSE TYPE
OF SHOES WITH SQUARE EDGES ON SOLE!!! YOUR ANKLE
ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO PULL IT BACK AND IT'LL
GIVE. Round edge shoes are better cause they won't
force your ankle to roll again. Also, this sounds crazy
but I prefer to wear shoes loose if my ankle is tender.
That way, if it does want to fold your shoe will fold and
your foot won't follow it all the way.

I'll think of others later...

i always wear shoes loose cause of that reason, works real good.

beer can help too, if your ankle is busted and you get drunk you cant feel your foot, this way you can walk around and the swelling goes away faster.

[j....soy.....]

ice is good to keep the swelling down initially but later i've heard good things about heat...heat then massage... gnarly massage that breaks up all the scar tissue...when i went to physio the lady jammed her thumb into my ankle.....there's some pretty good excercises to do with rubber bands and stuff for your ankle....the other thing is balance stuff...try standing on one leg w. your eyes closed for over a minute....it's not that easy...if it is.. stand on a phone book....riding a bike is good for your ankles too....

[mikefork]

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Good topic.

Preventive measures are good too.

Leg workouts will do wonders.

Light stretches are good, but never rock back and forth. You're just stretching and you don't want
to pull anything.

Plenty of water and home cooked meals.

As far as injuries go. you gotta let it heal, but you gotta
also strengthen it. Ankle braces are maybe good for a bit
but you don't want to rely on them cause you won't be building
up strength.

Building back strength is very important.

Rubbing is always good and full movement is good.

Glucosamine chondroitan is good for the old men like me.

Shark cartilage is good to if you're old.

The hot and cold thing does work well. It inlflames it so ice
can reach all the areas.

Don't drink beer while it's bruised bad.

If it's a bad injury, rehab is the most important thing.
Doctors wil discourage you by saying you should stop
skating but it's usually bs. They say that cause most
people don't have the willpower to do all they can in
rehab so they don't want to give someone false hope.

I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

If you hurt your ankle and have started to skate again
while it's still tender, DON'T SKATE THOSE TYPE
OF SHOES WITH SQUARE EDGES ON SOLE!!! YOUR ANKLE
ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO PULL IT BACK AND IT'LL
GIVE. Round edge shoes are better cause they won't
force your ankle to roll again. Also, this sounds crazy
but I prefer to wear shoes loose if my ankle is tender.
That way, if it does want to fold your shoe will fold and
your foot won't follow it all the way.

I'll think of others later...

[close]

i always wear shoes loose cause of that reason, works real good.

beer can help too, if your ankle is busted and you get drunk you cant feel your foot, this way you can walk around and the swelling goes away faster.

you can also fuck it up even worse this way because you can't feel the pain so you wouldn't know when it has had too much

[MAGIK INC GROUPIE]

yep, and then you get all brave and walk on it all night. Next day is when you realize.

[syn]

for rolled ankles

after I've gotten to the point where I can walk okay again but it still hurts, I normally just cruise around a park. No ollie tricks or grinds, just manuals and rolling around some tranny. I find it helps to recover the ankle faster, because you actually use the muscles as you skate around

but the downside is that you can get hurt again, real  easily. Once you think your having a decent sesh and decide to try something you can normally do, then you tweak it again. I cant stress more that you shouldnt be trying tricks during this period

[mikefork]

from what i heard swimming helps because you are working your ankles without putting your weight on it. no good for a lot of us now for at least another six months though

[plastic bench nerd]

Good topic.

Preventive measures are good too.

Leg workouts will do wonders.

Light stretches are good, but never rock back and forth. You're just stretching and you don't want
to pull anything.

Plenty of water and home cooked meals.

As far as injuries go. you gotta let it heal, but you gotta
also strengthen it. Ankle braces are maybe good for a bit
but you don't want to rely on them cause you won't be building
up strength.

Building back strength is very important.

Rubbing is always good and full movement is good.

Glucosamine chondroitan is good for the old men like me.

Shark cartilage is good to if you're old.

The hot and cold thing does work well. It inlflames it so ice
can reach all the areas.

Don't drink beer while it's bruised bad.

If it's a bad injury, rehab is the most important thing.
Doctors wil discourage you by saying you should stop
skating but it's usually bs. They say that cause most
people don't have the willpower to do all they can in
rehab so they don't want to give someone false hope.

I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

If you hurt your ankle and have started to skate again
while it's still tender, DON'T SKATE THOSE TYPE
OF SHOES WITH SQUARE EDGES ON SOLE!!! YOUR ANKLE
ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO PULL IT BACK AND IT'LL
GIVE. Round edge shoes are better cause they won't
force your ankle to roll again. Also, this sounds crazy
but I prefer to wear shoes loose if my ankle is tender.
That way, if it does want to fold your shoe will fold and
your foot won't follow it all the way.

I'll think of others later...

sanch i think you got it covered

you cant let your mind fuck with you once your 85% healed from an injury, take it slow for three days and then just try and skate like nothing ever happened.

[A*]

from what i heard swimming helps because you are working your ankles without putting your weight on it. no good for a lot of us now for at least another six months though

you are actually working your whole body because you are flowing your weight bet.
60lbs per square feet(of water). You might not feel the 60 lbs on every square feet while you are swiming, but then you get tired from swiming at a certain distance...

swiming is great

if you have back problems, say,, lower back  or any other aches, if you sleep facing up, get a pillow under your lower back also, that will level the curvature that forms while you sleep. get a soft pillow otherwise you'll feel sleeping while being pushed up. this also works for the facing down sleepers, as you get the same curvature, get a pillow under your stomach and you're set.

stretch before and after skating, sometimes i stretch before sleeping

[HoSGage]

so how do you get your akileis or w/e to stop feeling like they are gonna rip ?! cause mine are killing me right now

[A*]

Im pretty sure that thing is a tendon, and those things take time to heal, if the case is that you suffered a tendon strecth or rupture, getting a problem in a tendon is worse than getting a problem in a bone.

you achilles tendon im guessing it carries and/or balances your whole body weight everywhere, so Id say to stop walking, running, skating... for a while and take it easy

get a good diet, drink milk, or any other calcium derivate.

this may sound geeky but avoid smoking and drinking and stay away from soda also

[j....soy.....]

from what i heard swimming helps because you are working your ankles without putting your weight on it. no good for a lot of us now for at least another six months though

your pool should have fins you can use too...grab a kickboard and just use your feet....

[leeroy]

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I used to play mind games when I'd hurt my ankle.
I'd convince myself to belive that when I'm rubbing it
I'd rub from the area outwards and I'd be pushing
away the injury. Honestly think something worked
there. I saw some bs on tv about it.

[close]

as in creative visualization?

I've done this too to a rolled ankle. rubbing (and stretching) it out as soon as possible, right when is doesn't feel like your gonna die if you move the thing. I think it works. And then try to use it as much as you can so it wont go stiff.

If you roll your ankle just a little, to make it a little sore - give it a cold, cold shower everytime you take shower yourself.

[sergio]

how bout dem knees? help me out

[beeda weeda]

knees??? I say this, cause I didnt do it, and  its a huge regret for me. stay the fuck off your board.  get a gym membership(yes, I said gym membership), do physio, and treat that shit like gold. knees are the hardest to deal with, you gotta do it soo proper. I didn't I regret it, I turned a bad knee sprain into somthing much worse.
tI can still skate  good today, but the aches are annoying, the little twists here and there can really make it hard to focus. be nice to your knees!!!

[magnet]

For ankles you can try standing on one foot maybe in a door way or something.  Good for strengthening since it'll get all the smaller muscles and tendons adjusting to maintain your balance. 

Unless the injury just happened and you were prescribed painkillers it'd probably be good to wean yourself off them and other numbing agents as you're rehabilitating.  Same with anything that'll make you retain water or bloat.

If you're not serious about getting better or still think you can do whatever you want no one's stopping you either.  Rehabilitation sucks but so does not being able to skate like you used to or at all.

[ciaran]

Yoga, cycling and swimming.  All of which work best for prevention and well for cure.  Personally, I find cycling amazing for fitness and spot-seeking as i don't drive.  Same deal iwith swimming - brilliatn for all round fitness and helps with recovery from ankle injuries.  Best bet though for limiting the severity of ankle rolls, which I'd guess would be the most common injury among skaters, is yoga or at least regular, prolonged stretching.

I did some classes a few years back, but stopped going when I went to Oz for a year. Picked up some books and stuff and do about 30-45 minutes of stretching every morning, which is amazing for both waking up and getting the blood flowing. Some stretches are really good for skating and help limit the severity of sprained ankles, while others are excellent for fitness and general flexiblity. You're probably better off going to a series of classes first and you will be fucked after the first class and you do have to keep doing it every day or 2 days to both learn the poses and stay flexible - it's like anything, the more you do, the easier it becomes. It's a much, much harder workout than you'd think, but you feel more energised than tired at the end of it.  I've since gone to a few more classes and I can't recommend it enough.  I find that even though some days I don't feel like doing anything - there are very few days I don't stretch - I always regret not doing it.  Even just sitting in that knee slide position will do wonders to aid flexiblity in your ankles and knee ligaments.  While yoga won't prevent a sprained ankle, it will limit the severity and speed up your recovery time.

Healthy diet and lots of water, but Majik inc. pretty much has everything covered there.

[Duffy]

For a hipper, I seriously just got over (sorta) the worst one I've ever had, theres a few things I've learned:

1 - If you sit too long in one position or dont walk, it makes it worse actually.
2 - Don't ice it for too long, it actually makes it worse.

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

For a hipper, I seriously just got over (sorta) the worst one I've ever had, theres a few things I've learned:

1 - If you sit too long in one position or dont walk, it makes it worse actually.
2 - Don't ice it for too long, it actually makes it worse.

Yeah, hippers are a bitch. your first point is right on.
The best way I have ever gotten rid of a hipper was by landing on it enough times that one time I hit it hard enough when I landed and it exploded. I got dizzy and alomst threw up, but once the bruise healed, it was gone.

[mikefork]

i have always tried to skate or walk off hippers. the ones i don't are the ones that stay for a while and just piss you off
for broken arms and wrists don't try that he-man bullshit and let it heal on its own. it will take months longer to heal and you constantly slam on it again
for broken toes bust out the hockey tape

[skatemore,man]

hey for the KNEES, take care of them. I got wrecked by a car hitting me at 35mph directly in the knees a few years ago, the fuckers have never been the same since. Skeletal fractures heal faster than knees fractures, mull over that.... Like someone else said, treat them like gold.

Walk or run a few miles a few times a week, everyday is better, but do what you can. I started earlier in the fall after two years of straight no sleep mind fuck pain and they've been feeling much better. A mile is a long way, grab some headphones and plug it out.

SAY NO TO PAINKILLERS, they don't help your healing, make you lazy, ruin your skating, fuck with your life, and again, they don't help the healing process, not to mention they'lll make you angry as a motherfucker.

Try herbal supplements, i've heard good things.

I did nothing until a few months ago and i'll tell you that there were countless sleepless nights or nights ended by harsh knee pain, work those babies out kid.