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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3750 on: April 27, 2021, 05:26:52 AM »
I back your loophole fetishó my 56mm V-cuts are hands down the best wheel Iíve ever ridden!!!! But yes, there is consistency issues because my 52mmm teardrops donít slide nearly as good as the 56s despite them being the same durometer (I even asked them if they have different durometers for their regular wheels).

Haha Iím glad Iím not the only one with the weird fascination

Agreed on the consistency issues, slide wise. I have two sets of squares and they both slide a little different, especially when they were new. One set was ice slick at first then broke in to be standard non F4 wheel grippiness (like OJ or most of the other non F4, non stf Iíve tried. Will slide with some force and good technique, but donít just break out easy). The other started off fairly grippy. The Vee shapes I have in standard formula donít slide that well at all. They all feel similar and good when rolling though. Interesting!

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« Reply #3751 on: April 27, 2021, 10:15:48 PM »
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i asked nfg if they would ship a few sets of 95a wheels to europe but got no reply.

anyone knows a eu shop that somehow carries them or could i just order on their site anyways?
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I think they are a small time place that has no interest (or need) to ship to places other than US, as I would be keen to try some in AU as well, but that isn't happening any time soon, as they easily sell out of all their stock locally.

NFG / Loophole do have their products in some US shops, who might ship internationally, but right this minute I cannot think of who has any in stock, even though I follow a lot of shop accounts and their own accounts on Instagram.

The best bet might be tee up someone locally to buy and send them, but I think it will work out more expensive than buying other / better wheels more locally, eg 95a OJs, 97a Spitfire or even some Bones that feel much softer than 99a, and I know the price of Spitfires especially are pretty steep over there.


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I went digging and it looks like they don't have any 95s in stock and it was only a limited thing anyway.  From their facebook page that came up on a google search:

NFG MFG
1 December 2020 ∑
Our 95a formula is small batch and wont be around for long. Created for crusty spots. Slides like the original with a bit more grip.
Get yours while you still can!

thx for the reply brimson, much appreciated.

yeah i guess i'll try my luck maybe whenever they drop next hopefully, maybe a pal in the us can help me out then or something. at least getting loopholes is not a problem over here, really want to try them after i'm through with my current set.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3752 on: April 27, 2021, 10:41:28 PM »
I can get mad loopholes here if anyone wants to do a pals trade for some PFCs

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3753 on: May 02, 2021, 06:54:27 AM »
Anyone here have any insight on SML or Dialtone's?

Looking at these two at the moment:
- https://www.soohotrightnow.com/en/shop/product/sml-pall-pencil-pushers-wheels-99a-53mm/
- https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/dial-tone-atlantic-conical-rollen-white-53mm-99a-4er-pack_p142552

I want a 53mm, V-cut/conical, 99a. I was ridding Bones Easy Streets but I wanna go back to support smaller wheel brands... (I refuse to pay 60 euros for F4's)


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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3754 on: May 02, 2021, 01:02:06 PM »
Anyone here have any insight on SML or Dialtone's?

Looking at these two at the moment:
- https://www.soohotrightnow.com/en/shop/product/sml-pall-pencil-pushers-wheels-99a-53mm/
- https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/dial-tone-atlantic-conical-rollen-white-53mm-99a-4er-pack_p142552

I want a 53mm, V-cut/conical, 99a. I was ridding Bones Easy Streets but I wanna go back to support smaller wheel brands... (I refuse to pay 60 euros for F4's)
I think theyíre the same urethane. Ive had a couple sets of smls over the years, theyíre alright. Iíve been feeling these satori 101s. I think they might be the same as the others too.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3755 on: May 02, 2021, 08:26:59 PM »
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Anyone here have any insight on SML or Dialtone's?

Looking at these two at the moment:
- https://www.soohotrightnow.com/en/shop/product/sml-pall-pencil-pushers-wheels-99a-53mm/
- https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/dial-tone-atlantic-conical-rollen-white-53mm-99a-4er-pack_p142552

I want a 53mm, V-cut/conical, 99a. I was ridding Bones Easy Streets but I wanna go back to support smaller wheel brands... (I refuse to pay 60 euros for F4's)
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I think theyíre the same urethane. Ive had a couple sets of smls over the years, theyíre alright. Iíve been feeling these satori 101s. I think they might be the same as the others too.


Yes I believe it has been said they are all from Creative Urethanes, who produce wheels for many of the smaller brands, including Dialtone, Satori, Sml (who also use another wheel manufacturer for their very bright white compound)

http://creativeurethanes.com/

https://www.creativewheelsusa.com/

Pretty cool to see the videos of production from the second link.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3756 on: May 02, 2021, 09:43:11 PM »
loopholes over sml for me but sml certainly get the job done and are a must if you love white wheels!

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3757 on: May 02, 2021, 10:24:51 PM »
Anyone here have any insight on SML or Dialtone's?

Looking at these two at the moment:
- https://www.soohotrightnow.com/en/shop/product/sml-pall-pencil-pushers-wheels-99a-53mm/
- https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/dial-tone-atlantic-conical-rollen-white-53mm-99a-4er-pack_p142552

I want a 53mm, V-cut/conical, 99a. I was ridding Bones Easy Streets but I wanna go back to support smaller wheel brands... (I refuse to pay 60 euros for F4's)

I'm on some V1 Easy Streets now but was riding some SML V-Cuts 99a before them. They're a good wheel but take a bit more work to break into powerslides.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3758 on: May 02, 2021, 10:32:56 PM »
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Anyone here have any insight on SML or Dialtone's?

Looking at these two at the moment:
- https://www.soohotrightnow.com/en/shop/product/sml-pall-pencil-pushers-wheels-99a-53mm/
- https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/dial-tone-atlantic-conical-rollen-white-53mm-99a-4er-pack_p142552

I want a 53mm, V-cut/conical, 99a. I was ridding Bones Easy Streets but I wanna go back to support smaller wheel brands... (I refuse to pay 60 euros for F4's)
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I'm on some V1 Easy Streets now but was riding some SML V-Cuts 99a before them. They're a good wheel but take a bit more work to break into powerslides.

Oh cool! That is the wheel and shape Iím ridding at the moment too! Amazing wheels but I just wanna retire them and try something different.
Ended up getting Smlís, and it seems that they are the AG formula. Read it feels more like spitfires and the OG formula more like Bones... letís see how they feel in a few days.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3759 on: May 02, 2021, 10:41:09 PM »
Been itching for some Bones lately. Just a bummer they started making most of them brown this year :-\

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3760 on: May 02, 2021, 10:53:52 PM »
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Anyone here have any insight on SML or Dialtone's?

Looking at these two at the moment:
- https://www.soohotrightnow.com/en/shop/product/sml-pall-pencil-pushers-wheels-99a-53mm/
- https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/dial-tone-atlantic-conical-rollen-white-53mm-99a-4er-pack_p142552

I want a 53mm, V-cut/conical, 99a. I was ridding Bones Easy Streets but I wanna go back to support smaller wheel brands... (I refuse to pay 60 euros for F4's)
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I'm on some V1 Easy Streets now but was riding some SML V-Cuts 99a before them. They're a good wheel but take a bit more work to break into powerslides.
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Oh cool! That is the wheel and shape Iím ridding at the moment too! Amazing wheels but I just wanna retire them and try something different.
Ended up getting Smlís, and it seems that they are the AG formula. Read it feels more like spitfires and the OG formula more like Bones... letís see how they feel in a few days.

Mine also took a while to break in, but I was only skating twice a week at the time for 1-2 hours a session. I was riding the OG formula too so i'm not sure how the AG formula feels in comparison. I'd definitely pick more up in the future. I switched to Bones V1's only because I wanted something a bit lighter and nimble after recovering from my quad strain and losing some strength.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3761 on: May 03, 2021, 03:46:41 PM »
Apparently Arizona Iced Tea makes wheels these days. Anyone have any production info?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMFn1ZGgSCa/?igshid=1mxizmsyhlja3

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3762 on: May 03, 2021, 06:19:31 PM »
Been itching for some Bones lately. Just a bummer they started making most of them brown this year :-\

I think they either realised that trying to look like Spitfire F4 was not going to work, or just thought they were not as good, so went back to normal white wheels, as all the current lot as per some I just got are white, not natural or any other weird colour.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3763 on: May 03, 2021, 08:00:28 PM »
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Been itching for some Bones lately. Just a bummer they started making most of them brown this year :-\
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I think they either realised that trying to look like Spitfire F4 was not going to work, or just thought they were not as good, so went back to normal white wheels, as all the current lot as per some I just got are white, not natural or any other weird colour.



Only the 99a STF come in the 'dirty bird' brown (which they now just label as 99a STF). Everything else that is the 'bones white' is still 103a/83b.

https://bones.com/skateboard-wheels/street-tech-formula-tm?soc_wheel_hardness%5B0%5D=99a&soc_wheel_hardness%5B1%5D=103a

I recently posted about this, the OG EZ streets that were 99a and 'bones' white feel so much better than the spongy 99a STF 'naturals' they're selling now (I have set of each and the 99a Ez streets in white feel like 97a spits)...I wouldn't put it past them that they are using the 100 thane for these as they feel THAT different.

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Current color


After riding 97a spit f4 and 99a F4 and 99a current natural bones, I went back to a very old set of the white 99a bones ez streets and prefer them over the current 99a bones, so much so that I will only skate the 83b bones STFs.
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3764 on: May 03, 2021, 08:20:04 PM »

I guess these might not look white, but they don't seem off white / natural or dirty bird coloured in real life.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3765 on: May 03, 2021, 09:20:47 PM »
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Been itching for some Bones lately. Just a bummer they started making most of them brown this year :-\
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I think they either realised that trying to look like Spitfire F4 was not going to work, or just thought they were not as good, so went back to normal white wheels, as all the current lot as per some I just got are white, not natural or any other weird colour.


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Only the 99a STF come in the 'dirty bird' brown (which they now just label as 99a STF). Everything else that is the 'bones white' is still 103a/83b.

https://bones.com/skateboard-wheels/street-tech-formula-tm?soc_wheel_hardness%5B0%5D=99a&soc_wheel_hardness%5B1%5D=103a

I recently posted about this, the OG EZ streets that were 99a and 'bones' white feel so much better than the spongy 99a STF 'naturals' they're selling now (I have set of each and the 99a Ez streets in white feel like 97a spits)...I wouldn't put it past them that they are using the 100 thane for these as they feel THAT different.

Old/discontinued




Current color


After riding 97a spit f4 and 99a F4 and 99a current natural bones, I went back to a very old set of the white 99a bones ez streets and prefer them over the current 99a bones, so much so that I will only skate the 83b bones STFs.

Didn't get a chance to ride the original Easy Streets but the newer 99a definitely felt mushy, I would rank it below a F4 99a in terms of hardness.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3766 on: May 04, 2021, 07:57:39 AM »
weighing on on the OG white easy streets vs natural 99 stfs, i'd agree that the white ones felt better.

the white ones felt hard and fast but really absorbed the rough ground, had that bones plasticky feel but in a good way. these naturals just don't have the same shock absorption on rough streets. idk if id go so far to say they feel mushy, but they just feel unremarkable.

i will say the OG whites wore down fast, and broke down in a weird way, i recall seeing "strings" of urethane coming off on my set. that's the only negative i can think of vs the natural ones.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3767 on: May 04, 2021, 09:29:48 AM »
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i asked nfg if they would ship a few sets of 95a wheels to europe but got no reply.

anyone knows a eu shop that somehow carries them or could i just order on their site anyways?
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I think they are a small time place that has no interest (or need) to ship to places other than US, as I would be keen to try some in AU as well, but that isn't happening any time soon, as they easily sell out of all their stock locally.

NFG / Loophole do have their products in some US shops, who might ship internationally, but right this minute I cannot think of who has any in stock, even though I follow a lot of shop accounts and their own accounts on Instagram.

The best bet might be tee up someone locally to buy and send them, but I think it will work out more expensive than buying other / better wheels more locally, eg 95a OJs, 97a Spitfire or even some Bones that feel much softer than 99a, and I know the price of Spitfires especially are pretty steep over there.


EDIT:

I went digging and it looks like they don't have any 95s in stock and it was only a limited thing anyway.  From their facebook page that came up on a google search:

NFG MFG
1 December 2020 ∑
Our 95a formula is small batch and wont be around for long. Created for crusty spots. Slides like the original with a bit more grip.
Get yours while you still can!

I'm currently riding the nfg 95a's (56mm, v-shape) and enjoy them quite a bit. Mostly skating curbs and cruising the neighborhood, but my aging knees appreciate the reduced hardness. Nice and grippy with decent enough slide. Very stoked to see the new loophole video that just premiered too.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3768 on: May 04, 2021, 09:42:24 AM »

I guess these might not look white, but they don't seem off white / natural or dirty bird coloured in real life.



Old stock maybe? Googling the fatties brings up the same white looking wheels, anything else looks brown, even the bones V6 section is all browntown.

It's too bad, good wheel and I liked them over the 99a Spit F4. My guess is the marketing took over...they went from EZ streets to Dirty Birds (to match up with F4 coloring) then just defaulted back to 99a STFs but now brown.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3769 on: May 04, 2021, 12:11:38 PM »


Yeah this color is what I need. 99A V5. I have zero initiative to buy brown Bones wheels. It's even in the name ::) I hope they see this and get their stuff together. This Dirty Birds stuff is not going to cut it. If it comes down to it I'll get the wheels in 103A, but at that point OJ Hardlines are looking a little bit more solid as they grip more.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3770 on: May 04, 2021, 01:38:48 PM »
I miss teenage runaway wheels, that is all.

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« Reply #3771 on: May 04, 2021, 03:29:49 PM »
Idk why some of yall want it to look like Biebel is smiling underneath your set ups. Even before the brand new potato color wheel trend, I couldn't wait for my new wheels to get dirty when I was growing up.

I wish I didn't have to look at your sig in every thread tbh. That shit is annoying and usually so are your posts.

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« Reply #3772 on: May 04, 2021, 03:38:06 PM »
i don't dislike white wheels, it's just with bones they used to turn into this disgusting neon piss yellow. that actually made me buy a pink set of bones once just because i was fed up with them looking like some glow in the dark type wheels after a few weeks.

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« Reply #3773 on: May 04, 2021, 06:48:37 PM »

From skating a lot on a certain ramp painted red from a long time ago now, it didn't matter what colour (white) the wheels were they would always end up this weird orangy colour from the ramp.

That is more my Spitfires than another guy who had Bones wheels, but I have seen other brands do this too, depending on formula, eg usually the more milky translucent coloured wheels would absorb the terrain colour more so than the bright plastic looking white wheels, that never seemed to change colour.

I have Bones STF wheels that are still new in package, from maybe ten or more years ago that are still whiter than anything that is coming out now, including those 99s and other ones that I bought some of, which are new current stock.  The SPF wheels from the same time also still new in pack are more yellowed than new natural F4 Spitfires, so it always made me wonder what goes into the formula of the wheel that would have such a lasting effect on the colour.

Older Spitfires in classic formula go almost dark brown over time, along with some that go pinkish brown and another set that have gone greenish brown, all still new in packaging and kept out of light, so go figure.  Anything under fluorescent shop counter lights or direct sunlight usually went off colour very quickly.

It might be fun to lay some out and take pics of them to compare, when I have a minute.

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« Reply #3774 on: May 04, 2021, 07:12:41 PM »
NFG MFG has an Indiegogo crowdfunding thing going on. The link is on their Instagram.

You can choose from 95a and 52D (101a) wheels in Teardrop, Square and Vee shapes. They also offer hoodies, shirts, hats etc.

Iím glad to see those 95aís as I missed out on them last time.


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« Reply #3775 on: May 04, 2021, 07:37:45 PM »
NFG MFG has an Indiegogo crowdfunding thing going on. The link is on their Instagram.

You can choose from 95a and 52D (101a) wheels in Teardrop, Square and Vee shapes. They also offer hoodies, shirts, hats etc.

Iím glad to see those 95aís as I missed out on them last time.

Looks like a good way to do it.

Thanks for the info, Instagram post and details here too...


www.indiegogo.com/projects/high-performance-skateboard-wheels-by-nfgmfg

Well worth a look and a read (and purchase if so inclined to get those 95a duro wheels).



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Weíve decided to start an indiegogo crowdfunding campaign as a way to pre-book our new summer catalog! Now is your chance to help our small business raise some much needed money for equipment and get yourself some awesome new gear in the process. Click the link in our bio and check it out!


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« Reply #3776 on: May 05, 2021, 06:25:11 AM »
If they are willing to ship o/s, Iím keen to give them some of my hard-earned

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« Reply #3777 on: May 05, 2021, 01:01:32 PM »
If they are willing to ship o/s, Iím keen to give them some of my hard-earned

they have some items where it says shipping worldwide. no clue if that's just a mistake, since most the stuff ships to us only. but there is a double set of 95a vee shapes where it says ships worldwide down at the bottom of the scroll list and a t-shirt pack and some more wheels, but only double packs i think. very good deals though.

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« Reply #3778 on: May 05, 2021, 05:21:36 PM »
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If they are willing to ship o/s, Iím keen to give them some of my hard-earned
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they have some items where it says shipping worldwide. no clue if that's just a mistake, since most the stuff ships to us only. but there is a double set of 95a vee shapes where it says ships worldwide down at the bottom of the scroll list and a t-shirt pack and some more wheels, but only double packs i think. very good deals though.

Someone asked in comments on that post and the reply was...


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Not currently although we are looking into it, if possible contact your local shop and ask them to reach out to us!"


Makes sense to try to get the product into the local shops rather than have to send individually - expensive shipping small packages to individuals and the cost is not worth it, even if the recipient is willing to pay full shipping costs, which would usually work out more expensive than buying wheels from a local shop in whatever country anyway.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #3779 on: May 08, 2021, 10:22:50 AM »
So my new town is a little more historic and Iím finding my 99as to be too damn hard. Iíve legit never used anything but basic ass 99a 54mm shit. Iím wondering if anyone has any recs for something quite a bit softer, but still okay for simple flat shit. I just cruise, so some curbs and pressure flips these days.