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Anti-Hero in Israel
« on: April 21, 2015, 02:24:07 PM »
Cool video. As always, Buddy and Rick come through with flying colors. BUT if the 18 is really the underdog and the outsider, why didn't they go to Palestine?

Is this whole video a tacit show of support for an oppressive occupying force? A country that the recipient of nearly $3 billion a year of U.S. largesse, which is primarily used to fund the military?

Granted, Muslims are generally a lot worse than Jews, so I'm not taking sides. Just posing a (probably stupid) question.

Fuck it. Go skate.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 02:28:05 PM »
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 02:45:45 PM »
Julien is Jewish.


Probably just because the spots are better. Don't think too much.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 05:20:03 PM »
Julien is Jewish.


Probably just because the spots are better. Don't think too much.


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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015, 09:23:13 PM »

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 09:46:08 PM »
Cool video. As always, Buddy and Rick come through with flying colors. BUT if the 18 is really the underdog and the outsider, why didn't they go to Palestine?

Is this whole video a tacit show of support for an oppressive occupying force? A country that the recipient of nearly $3 billion a year of U.S. largesse, which is primarily used to fund the military?

Granted, Muslims are generally a lot worse than Jews, so I'm not taking sides. Just posing a (probably stupid) question.

Fuck it. Go skate.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 10:03:59 PM »
i fucking hate it that you can't bring up Israel or Palestine without mentioning the political conflict. Was hoping this thread would be about their experience, etc.
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 11:12:37 PM »
you can't bring up Israel or Palestine without mentioning the political conflict
it's even more than political, it's about humans lives

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 11:29:51 PM »
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you can't bring up Israel or Palestine without mentioning the political conflict
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it's even more than political, it's about humans lives

Can't really avoid it.

I remember having the Jew-lien Stranger graphic. So good. Even cut a star of David into the grip. Nose and tail were too big though...
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2015, 11:38:57 PM »
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Cool video. As always, Buddy and Rick come through with flying colors. BUT if the 18 is really the underdog and the outsider, why didn't they go to Palestine?

Is this whole video a tacit show of support for an oppressive occupying force? A country that the recipient of nearly $3 billion a year of U.S. largesse, which is primarily used to fund the military?

Granted, Muslims are generally a lot worse than Jews, so I'm not taking sides. Just posing a (probably stupid) question.

Fuck it. Go skate.
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What? It's true. Even the most moderate Islamic countries are insane. Most jews are secular, most muslims are not.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2015, 11:44:05 PM »
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you can't bring up Israel or Palestine without mentioning the political conflict
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it's even more than political, it's about humans lives
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Can't really avoid it.

I remember having the Jew-lien Stranger graphic. So good. Even cut a star of David into the grip. Nose and tail were too big though...

hahaha oh man...

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 01:07:55 AM »
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Cool video. As always, Buddy and Rick come through with flying colors. BUT if the 18 is really the underdog and the outsider, why didn't they go to Palestine?

Is this whole video a tacit show of support for an oppressive occupying force? A country that the recipient of nearly $3 billion a year of U.S. largesse, which is primarily used to fund the military?

Granted, Muslims are generally a lot worse than Jews, so I'm not taking sides. Just posing a (probably stupid) question.

Fuck it. Go skate.
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What? It's true. Even the most moderate Islamic countries are insane. Most jews are secular, most muslims are not.


Israel is pretty out of its gourd. Good job they have been given a large nuclear arsenal...

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 01:50:33 AM »
Cool video. As always, Buddy and Rick come through with flying colors. BUT if the 18 is really the underdog and the outsider, why didn't they go to Palestine?

Is this whole video a tacit show of support for an oppressive occupying force? A country that the recipient of nearly $3 billion a year of U.S. largesse, which is primarily used to fund the military?

Granted, Muslims are generally a lot worse than Jews, so I'm not taking sides. Just posing a (probably stupid) question.

Fuck it. Go skate.

I think after recent bombings and such theres probably not to many spots over in Palestine anymore.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2015, 04:29:03 AM »
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you can't bring up Israel or Palestine without mentioning the political conflict
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it's even more than political, it's about humans lives
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Can't really avoid it.

I remember having the Jew-lien Stranger graphic. So good. Even cut a star of David into the grip. Nose and tail were too big though...
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hahaha oh man...

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2015, 05:42:03 AM »
Honestly, I was thinking much the same as the OP but didn't want to bring it up here and bum everyone out.

One doesn't expect Anti Hero to get too political although having a nice ole' vacation in Israel in 2015 without any critical comment is akin to checking out skate spots in South Africa circa 1985.

I could be wrong - but there didn't look to be a whole lot of Arabs at any of those skateparks...

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2015, 06:02:09 AM »
As they said in the video, they came to check out some of the parks Grindline built in Israel.
I could be wrong - but there didn't look to be a whole lot of Arabs at any of those skateparks...

would they look any different than the other skaters there?
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2015, 06:30:46 AM »
Wonder when they'll be hitting up Iraq, Libya, Syria or Afghanistan? They could go to Skatistan...
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2015, 07:51:42 AM »
just thinking about isreal gives me anxiety

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2015, 10:52:52 AM »
I like how they dropped it on the same day as the Vans video.  They make some of the best vids.


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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2015, 11:03:15 AM »
Honestly, I was thinking much the same as the OP but didn't want to bring it up here and bum everyone out.

One doesn't expect Anti Hero to get too political although having a nice ole' vacation in Israel in 2015 without any critical comment is akin to checking out skate spots in South Africa circa 1985.

I could be wrong - but there didn't look to be a whole lot of Arabs at any of those skateparks...

Being this ignorant in 2015.
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2015, 11:57:57 AM »
As they said in the video, they came to check out some of the parks Grindline built in Israel.
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I could be wrong - but there didn't look to be a whole lot of Arabs at any of those skateparks...
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would they look any different than the other skaters there?


I can't say for sure. There weren't that many shots of the locals and I was merely guessing by faces. You might know better than me, I think. Are there a lot of Arabs in the skateparks there? I realize that Israel does have a sizable Arab minority population.


I suppose I'm mainly just bumming out thinking about the million or so kids behind a wall in territories effectively controlled by Israel, who can't skate any of these parks. They probably aren't building DIY parks on their side either since concrete is a black market commodity in Gaza/WB.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2015, 12:04:55 PM »
just thinking about isreal gives me anxiety
da anxiety isreal

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2015, 12:26:36 PM »
i watched this last night and during the train scene was reminded of riding through El Paso and looking over the fence to Juarez. you'll see the mountains dotted w/ shacks and festooned w/ giant spanish words telling you 'god watches you' or something similarly christian.
meanwhile you're in america and the difference is incredible.
we know that religion flourishes in places of financial paucity. makes me wonder if Israel couldn't solve all this by breaking bread? would suicide bombing still be attractive if you had playstation? or spots and a board to rip them w/?
i know war and discord are more profitable but makes me think that if Israel redistributed some of that scrill the US laces them w/ that perhaps they could buy peace? maybe we could make Juarez habitable too?
but like, who wants their taxes going to people who didn't work for it? fuck dem niggaz, right?
yeah, until it's your sibling or child who dies then you'd wish all your money away to get them back.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2015, 01:09:41 PM »
israel is a warzone but its also a tourist destination. palestine and shit not so much

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2015, 01:18:53 PM »
i watched this last night and during the train scene was reminded of riding through El Paso and looking over the fence to Juarez. you'll see the mountains dotted w/ shacks and festooned w/ giant spanish words telling you 'god watches you' or something similarly christian.
meanwhile you're in america and the difference is incredible.
we know that religion flourishes in places of financial paucity. makes me wonder if Israel couldn't solve all this by breaking bread? would suicide bombing still be attractive if you had playstation? or spots and a board to rip them w/?
i know war and discord are more profitable but makes me think that if Israel redistributed some of that scrill the US laces them w/ that perhaps they could buy peace? maybe we could make Juarez habitable too?
but like, who wants their taxes going to people who didn't work for it? fuck dem niggaz, right?
yeah, until it's your sibling or child who dies then you'd wish all your money away to get them back.

i assume you are being facetious.  i dont think playstations or places to skate and boards are going to bring peace to a region that has been pretty much been at war over religious differences for as long as its been in existence.
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2015, 01:40:35 PM »
yes and no, stevedave.
more thinking of solid structures, potable water, fresh vegetables but distractions and luxuries as well. all the palestineans i've talked to in the states are surprisingly not bitter. even that guy in cleveland who's always got anti-israel murals on his gas station is very personable and approachable and positive to talk w/ [i chopped it up w/ him circa 02-04].
money can solve lots of problems. not all but i believe it could go a long ways towards creating shiny happy people in gaza.
to their credit, i'd say a slight majority of american jews are classy secular folks. quite a few embody the greedy capitalist stereotype but most of them are rational humanistic people to me. so i believe that if they had the same access to amenities there that they do here then everyone could go to erank'as hillbomb holiday and be friends. it is my belief that barring ecocide and the end of humanity that some day the future denizens of planet earth will live a common sense socialism and have evolved to help each other and live harmoniously w/ nature. not indian 'we haven't figured out the wheel yet' zero carbon footprint but a hell of a lot better than we're doing today.
you know, that is if we can persist for another 1000 or so yrs w/out flooding the plains or nuking ourselves outta existence.

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2015, 02:14:46 PM »
id say the palestinians in the states are not bitter BECAUSE they're in the states.  talk to a palestinian who lives in Palestine and you'll most likely get a much different opinion.  and i don't think it's because of the access to amenities and luxuries here.  it's because they're free to do and say what they want and they are treated much better.  israel is a crazy place.  people there party pretty hard, because they know it could be full blown war at any given time, there's terrorists, suicide bombers.  it's a hairy place to be.  i was there in the late 80s, and that was a pretty peaceful time there.  but the military presence was still heavy.  i stayed at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which was bombed in 1946.  They have these roll down shutters for the windows in every room in case of air raids/bombings etc.  it's pretty surreal.  i guess after being there, I had a better understanding of how deep the hatred is between the the different groups of people is.  and I guess that's why i dont think playstations and potable water are going to lessen that hatred.
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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2015, 03:06:42 PM »
Wait a minute! what board was that??

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you can't bring up Israel or Palestine without mentioning the political conflict
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it's even more than political, it's about humans lives
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Can't really avoid it.

I remember having the Jew-lien Stranger graphic. So good. Even cut a star of David into the grip. Nose and tail were too big though...

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Re: Anti-Hero in Israel
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2015, 03:21:50 PM »
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Honestly, I was thinking much the same as the OP but didn't want to bring it up here and bum everyone out.

One doesn't expect Anti Hero to get too political although having a nice ole' vacation in Israel in 2015 without any critical comment is akin to checking out skate spots in South Africa circa 1985.

I could be wrong - but there didn't look to be a whole lot of Arabs at any of those skateparks...
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Being this ignorant in 2015.


What exactly is ignorant about this? Despite there not being a clear moral high ground on EITHER SIDE, what Israel does is effectively Apartheid and occupation.

Both sides commit atrocities, and have for 1500 years, but one side has money and international support.

There's no easy or pragmatic answer to any of this shit, and I don't and can't support one side over the other, but just wanted to point out in the original post that merely by traveling to Israel you're tacitly supporting them due to tourist dollars, etc.

Kind of like when Jay-Z and whatsherface went to Cuba before the normalization of relations.