The Teaching English Abroad Thread

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Apologize or ill go on a rant about how offensive your handle is here, and ill hunt down your wife and have her divorce you because of some dumb fuck in london

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Need a back story here but are you Bobby Puleo?

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This guy didn't even have to leave his English speaking country to teach English

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Do you actually have anything to contribute here Tracer*?

*may in fact be a rhetorical question

You don't actually have to leave your country to teach English. This could save you from getting scammed like so many do. Teaching English in Poland doesn't have a lot of pull when you eventually get back to America!

[OldmanEpic]

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Apologize or ill go on a rant about how offensive your handle is here, and ill hunt down your wife and have her divorce you because of some dumb fuck in london

(Sarc)

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Need a back story here but are you Bobby Puleo?

No. Im Fred

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

You don't actually have to leave your country to teach English. This could save you from getting scammed like so many do.

Not to pick you apart you argument or anything, but wouldn't that belong in "The Teaching English Abroad Domestically" thread?
Do you even have any experience teaching in any of the countries that we've discussed so far?
Contribute to the topic at hand or go back to your usual troll posts

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You don't actually have to leave your country to teach English. This could save you from getting scammed like so many do.

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Not to pick you apart you argument or anything, but wouldn't that belong in "The Teaching English Abroad Domestically" thread?
Do you even have any experience teaching in any of the countries that we've discussed so far?
Contribute to the topic at hand or go back to your usual troll posts

Yes I have friends that teach in Russia and shit. They come home with no money, no references, and no better education than learning the native language (that you'll never use)

Most of these cats are lost runaways. Not saying going abroad to teach is a bad idea, it's just not for everyone. The success rate of these teachers is probably pretty low, it's not as cushy of a job as people think. Total grind

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

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You don't actually have to leave your country to teach English. This could save you from getting scammed like so many do.

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Not to pick you apart you argument or anything, but wouldn't that belong in "The Teaching English Abroad Domestically" thread?
Do you even have any experience teaching in any of the countries that we've discussed so far?
Contribute to the topic at hand or go back to your usual troll posts

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Yes I have friends that teach in Russia and shit. They come home with no money, no references, and no better education than learning the native language (that you'll never use)

Most of these cats are lost runaways. Not saying going abroad to teach is a bad idea, it's just not for everyone. The success rate of these teachers is probably pretty low, it's not as cushy of a job as people think. Total grind

Yeah, I thought not...
Anyway you do have a point so I'll bring it back on track for you (and everyone else in this thread). Yes, most people that are working dead-end English teaching jobs are unqualified and more often than not running away from something (usually actual responsibilities/ the reality of getting a real job). Doesn't mean that people don't have the time of their lives doing it though. It was never a career for me; I did it when I was on exchange and when I was doing a working holiday, but if you hook up a masters　and/or some good qualifications before you get started you can land some pretty sweet university jobs which DO end up being pretty cushy. Otaku, if I'm not mistaken, is still pretty young and wants/ wanted to see Asia so it's a pretty good way to get his foot in the door.

[perverted super otaku!]

In Canada anyway a bachelors degree majoring in something like history(my major), can't really get you a job that will pay you for your education, this is why so many Canadians go to South Korea or China when they graduate. In South Korea I can make more than I can here with my apartment paid for, which will allow me to save up to go back to school, either a masters or more likely go to teachers college and become a high school or elementary teacher here, plus being a qualified teacher will give me more opportunities if I want to teach abroad again. It will also be a cool adventure to live in another culture and travel a bit(thinking China and Japan). It just makes sense to do on a lot of levels, I like to explore and travel and just feel I owe it to myself to see the world before I have kids or a marriage and I can do this and make money to help with whatever I decide to do next, definitely stoked.

[360 frip]

Yeah, I think that's rad. Live life while you can because it can soon be cut short. A lot of people get bolted down. Enjoy it while you can!

[perverted super otaku!]

So, just an update, basically got faced with what seems to be a pretty classic teaching abroad scenario, arriving to no apartment, so facing the option of staying in a shitty hotel for 8 days eating pb/j sandwiches, I opted to bounce. One piece of advice I would give to anyone doing this, just make sure you have enough for your flight home, because you never really know what you'll be arriving to. 

[asakusa75]

So, just an update, basically got faced with what seems to be a pretty classic teaching abroad scenario, arriving to no apartment, so facing the option of staying in a shitty hotel for 8 days eating pb/j sandwiches, I opted to bounce. One piece of advice I would give to anyone doing this, just make sure you have enough for your flight home, because you never really know what you'll be arriving to.  

Just saw this thread.
I taught for eleven years in Japan, and while sometimes it was bearable, for the most part it sucked. It was more the people I was working for really. Horrible clowns.
I stayed working because I had a sudden young family to support, so I found a job that was manageable most days and studied my arse off learning Japanese to try and find another job. I started doing low level translation and interpreting gigs here and there, trying to get my name out and also get some extra money to support my sons. I ended up having to come home, rather suddenly at that too, so now I am back at Uni, pursuing the language options. Actually stoked to be home.
Teaching English abroad is good to travel, get an income and see a foreign country but definitely not a career. And the people doing it for careers, especially somewhere relatively easy to live like Japan, are usually complete kooks. I worked for some proper dickheads.

Yeah, I think that's rad. Live life while you can because it can soon be cut short. A lot of people get bolted down. Enjoy it while you can!

Also, just saw this...whoa.

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Yeah, I think that's rad. Live life while you can because it can soon be cut short. A lot of people get bolted down. Enjoy it while you can!

Heavy

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

@superpervert
I think I mentioned this in the other thread but that was hardly a horror story in terms of moving overseas to teach English, seemed more like a case of cold feet to me. Either way I'm glad you made it back to wherever you're from, and that you finally have some good food to eat.

Teaching English abroad is good to travel, get an income and see a foreign country but definitely not a career. And the people doing it for careers, especially somewhere relatively easy to live like Japan, are usually complete kooks. I worked for some proper dickheads.

THIS THIS THIS! All future posters, please read this advice before making the jump! Hindsight and all that jazz I guess...

Even with good Japanese, getting a job that doesn't glass ceiling your arse just for having the wrong passport is a bitch.
Welcome to my current situation - I'm on my 4th year of a 5-year contract position so I'll be unemployed this time next year (and like Asakusa I've got a family).
I guess this is straying a bit from topic but if you really want to live the dream here you need to back your Japanese up with another skill set (business/ finace skills, IT, the ability to translate/ interpret at a professional level, a background in law etc.) - being bilingual/ good at Japanese these days simply isn't enough! I'm sure people killed it over here in the early 90s though...
What course are you doing back at uni Asakusa?

Also: fuck, I miss frip...

[asakusa75]

@superpervert
I think I mentioned this in the other thread but that was hardly a horror story in terms of moving overseas to teach English, seemed more like a case of cold feet to me. Either way I'm glad you made it back to wherever you're from, and that you finally have some good food to eat.

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Teaching English abroad is good to travel, get an income and see a foreign country but definitely not a career. And the people doing it for careers, especially somewhere relatively easy to live like Japan, are usually complete kooks. I worked for some proper dickheads.

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THIS THIS THIS! All future posters, please read this advice before making the jump! Hindsight and all that jazz I guess...

Even with good Japanese, getting a job that doesn't glass ceiling your arse just for having the wrong passport is a bitch.
Welcome to my current situation - I'm on my 4th year of a 5-year contract position so I'll be unemployed this time next year (and like Asakusa I've got a family).
I guess this is straying a bit from topic but if you really want to live the dream here you need to back your Japanese up with another skill set (business/ finace skills, IT, the ability to translate/ interpret at a professional level, a background in law etc.) - being bilingual/ good at Japanese these days simply isn't enough! I'm sure people killed it over here in the early 90s though...
What course are you doing back at uni Asakusa?

Also: fuck, I miss frip...

I am doing International Studies, majoring in Japanese. They have already bumped me up to second year Japanese and my teacher still isn't satisfied. She wants me in third year and probably will end up transferring me to another campus (and course) where they specialise more in interpreting/ translation stuff. Its what I want to get into eventually, I am just not in a major rush.
You live there still?

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

I am doing International Studies, majoring in Japanese. They have already bumped my up to second year Japanese and my teacher still isn't satisfied. She wants me in third year and probably will end up transferring me to another campus (and course) where they specialise more in interpreting/ translation stuff. Its what I want to get into eventually, I am just not in a major rush.
You live there still?

Ha! I did international studies/ primary ed. double degree after I first moved back to Aus and if they are moving you to another campus/ course because you're Japanese is too ggod, and you're in Sydney, then I pretty much know where you're studying :p I'm still here ... 3rd time lucky I guess? Although as I said, I'll be unemployed this time next year so I might end up moving back too if my business plan fails...