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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #180 on: December 29, 2015, 12:10:01 PM »
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It's a laughable idea that he wasn't "putting food on the table" before. That kind of emotional appeal is ridiculous. Nobody made him have kids that he has to "put food on the table" for. It's not like he's some impoverished, homeless person with no recourse but to accept a Nike contract. You guys are equally laughable.
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One can argue that biologically he is forced to reproduce . Who knows how deep the need to reproduce goes on a unconscious level .

This discussion is kinda hilarious , People who dont even work in the skate business are telling people who work in the skate business who they can skate for or not skate for . How much money they should make and now even if they should have kids or not

If Nike started making defibrillators that were 100% to save life , Do you think doctors , paramedics would discussing the use of them justified cause they are not Core ? and would put core defibrillator brands out of business . Sure they save lifes but you dont want to be a poser paramedic . you want be CORE

Howard and Carrol started a board company , but they made clothes aswell within Girl . Why are they cutting in on Skate clothes market ? they went even further by starting a shoe , truck and clothes company . Why are they cutting in on other shoe , truck and clothes companies when they make boards ?

Nike makes shoes in pretty much every sport and activities . Why is it weird for them to make shoes for skateboarding ? isnt Nike making shoes more Core then Girl making shoes ?  I mean Nike is a shoe company and girl is a board company

At the end of the day ( in this thread )  We have Skateboarders , hating on Skateboarder making money and a career  for themselves , and what is worse these people hating are not even part of the Industry
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This is the problem with your arguments: you think criticism of someone means condemnation or hatred of that person. It doesn't. It only means you disagree with their professional choices. Making this an issue of someone being able to "put food on the table" or not is an insincere exaggeration and an overblown appeal to emotion. Guy Mariano did not have to sign to Nike for basic survival or even more than basic survival. He made a professional choice that some of us think was not good.
How do you know Lakai was renewing Guy's contract? Is it not possible Altamont Capital was happy to free up the money that was Guy's salary.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #181 on: December 29, 2015, 12:16:02 PM »
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It's a laughable idea that he wasn't "putting food on the table" before. That kind of emotional appeal is ridiculous. Nobody made him have kids that he has to "put food on the table" for. It's not like he's some impoverished, homeless person with no recourse but to accept a Nike contract. You guys are equally laughable.
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One can argue that biologically he is forced to reproduce . Who knows how deep the need to reproduce goes on a unconscious level .

This discussion is kinda hilarious , People who dont even work in the skate business are telling people who work in the skate business who they can skate for or not skate for . How much money they should make and now even if they should have kids or not

If Nike started making defibrillators that were 100% to save life , Do you think doctors , paramedics would discussing the use of them justified cause they are not Core ? and would put core defibrillator brands out of business . Sure they save lifes but you dont want to be a poser paramedic . you want be CORE

Howard and Carrol started a board company , but they made clothes aswell within Girl . Why are they cutting in on Skate clothes market ? they went even further by starting a shoe , truck and clothes company . Why are they cutting in on other shoe , truck and clothes companies when they make boards ?

Nike makes shoes in pretty much every sport and activities . Why is it weird for them to make shoes for skateboarding ? isnt Nike making shoes more Core then Girl making shoes ? �I mean Nike is a shoe company and girl is a board company

At the end of the day ( in this thread ) �We have Skateboarders , hating on Skateboarder making money and a career �for themselves , and what is worse these people hating are not even part of the Industry
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This is the problem with your arguments: you think criticism of someone means condemnation or hatred of that person. It doesn't. It only means you disagree with their professional choices. Making this an issue of someone being able to "put food on the table" or not is an insincere exaggeration and an overblown appeal to emotion. Guy Mariano did not have to sign to Nike for basic survival or even more than basic survival. He made a professional choice that some of us think was not good.

The bigger question is what do we know ?  How much was Lakai paying him ? were they paying him ? maybe he hadent gotten paid in months ?  Maybe he wants both his kids to go to Harvard ? maybe his kids are super sick and need expensive and constant medical care ? Maybe his parents or his wifes parents owe alot of money to banks ?

People leave companies all the time , we ask why since its a good company . Afew months later we find out everybody hated eachother , people were not getting paid , another company bought the company and was meddling . and so on .

I know alot of people hate on nike . But when you break it down Adidas and Nike make the best shoes in the skateboard industry . I think its very short sighted to call out pros for skating for them .

Nike and Adidas has the best paychecks , supports their riders the most with trips and exposure . They have some of the best videos , filmers , And they have the best quality shoes . I kinda think its crazy not to ride for a company that has all this

You guys are saying " just wait for the bad times , and nike will pull out of skating and leave everybody high and dry " So what if they do ? how many skater owned companies have done this ?  How many board companies have just screwed over skaters , or dumped the whole team and dissapered . Skateboard companies have always screwed over skaters with quality and skateboard pros with business

Got tons of interviews of people getting fucked by royalties , % of sales , ownership over shoe models . Company owners fucking over
other owners , stealing money . Companies randomly closing , debts

You could even make the case that Nike should fuck over the skateboard industry to fit into the industry

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #182 on: December 29, 2015, 12:41:42 PM »
I'll agree that none of us know the circumstances surrounding his decision at this point. Maybe we'll never know. But framing it as a matter of life and death/"Crailtap fucked him over" (pro-Nike camp) or "Guy stabbed his friends in the back" (pro-Crailtap) is probably not accurate. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle and the fact is none of us know for sure. We only have guesses to go on. Personally, I think he had a choice in the matter and he decided to go to greener pastures. He was not forced onto Nike by extreme circumstances.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #183 on: December 29, 2015, 12:50:30 PM »
I would just like to reiterate that right now you all are arguing about Guy leaving a corporate/non-skater owned company, for a different corporate/non-skater owned company. The only difference, quite literally, is that one used to be skater owned and the other was not, but I'm not sure why that matters since it's no longer the case.
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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #184 on: December 29, 2015, 01:21:32 PM »
I would just like to reiterate that right now you all are arguing about Guy leaving a corporate/non-skater owned company, for a different corporate/non-skater owned company. The only difference, quite literally, is that one used to be skater owned and the other was not, but I'm not sure why that matters since it's no longer the case.


This is quite literally the biggest load of crap in a thread full of it.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #185 on: December 29, 2015, 01:34:40 PM »
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I would just like to reiterate that right now you all are arguing about Guy leaving a corporate/non-skater owned company, for a different corporate/non-skater owned company. The only difference, quite literally, is that one used to be skater owned and the other was not, but I'm not sure why that matters since it's no longer the case.

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This is quite literally the biggest load of crap in a thread full of it.

Nah. There is even an argument to be made that what Girl did is worse than Nike, as Girl used to represent something special in skateboarding, and they ditched that shit for straight cash, whereas Nike has always been, and will forever be, a corporation--they never tried to hide their stripes...but I'll spare Slap that tirade for a different snowday. When people are saying "but guy didn't HAVE to have children..." you think what I am saying is crap? Yeesh. Come on, dude.

I know, the people who brought us The Chocolate Tour 1999 are owned by a bunch of suits now. It's tough news to swallow, but we, as a skateboarding community, have had almost a year to digest this soul crushing information and mull it over in our collective pea-brains. I think we can all agree that when Guy came out in all black Nike garb a few weeks ago, that was the death toll, okay?
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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #186 on: December 29, 2015, 02:20:15 PM »
^i'd agree with most of that. rickk and mike cashed out and took altamonts money at the end of their careers. now guy is doing his version of the same thing. how can someone say one is ok but the other is not? 

also guy was probably getting paid a good living wage, but not something he is going to be able to retire off of. nike probably offers long term stability, he'd be a fool at this point not to take it.
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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #187 on: December 29, 2015, 02:34:13 PM »
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I would just like to reiterate that right now you all are arguing about Guy leaving a corporate/non-skater owned company, for a different corporate/non-skater owned company. The only difference, quite literally, is that one used to be skater owned and the other was not, but I'm not sure why that matters since it's no longer the case.

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This is quite literally the biggest load of crap in a thread full of it.
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Nah. There is even an argument to be made that what Girl did is worse than Nike, as Girl used to represent something special in skateboarding, and they ditched that shit for straight cash, whereas Nike has always been, and will forever be, a corporation--they never tried to hide their stripes...but I'll spare Slap that tirade for a different snowday. When people are saying "but guy didn't HAVE to have children..." you think what I am saying is crap? Yeesh. Come on, dude.

I know, the people who brought us The Chocolate Tour 1999 are owned by a bunch of suits now. It's tough news to swallow, but we, as a skateboarding community, have had almost a year to digest this soul crushing information and mull it over in our collective pea-brains. I think we can all agree that when Guy came out in all black Nike garb a few weeks ago, that was the death toll, okay?

We are clearly living in new times, but if you can't see the difference between a brand like Nike and Girl (regardless of Altamont Capital owning a percentage), you aren't looking hard enough.

The "skater owned" thing may be played out, but there is a difference between a brand born out of skateboarding and one that is not. I'd much rather support brands born from skateboarding, where it is possible.

Seems clear to me that the Altamont deal was more done out of necessity. If it was about "selling out", they would have done it earlier, when the company was worth a lot more, not in 2015, when they are hurting bad.

Someone said it perfectly earlier in this thread, that Guy's last 10 years were likely more productive than his next 10 will be. Nike is like the New York Yankees of skateboarding, coming in and overpaying for free agents on the decline / in their twilight years.

I'd never fault anyone in skateboarding for getting paid, but fuck the Yankees.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #188 on: December 29, 2015, 03:04:40 PM »
If you guys really want to back the whole skater owned thing you should buy products from Globe International,
started by 2 Aussie skateboarders Peter and Stephen Hill back in the 80's

Their brands include..
    Globe
    Gallaz
    FXD
    Impala
    Dwindle
    Enjoi
    Blind
    Almost
    Cliché
    Darkstar
    Tensor
    Speed Demons
    Dusters Of California
    Wreck


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe_International


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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #189 on: December 29, 2015, 03:55:23 PM »
If you guys really want to back the whole skater owned thing you should buy products from Globe International,
started by 2 Aussie skateboarders Peter and Stephen Hill back in the 80's

Their brands include..
    Globe
    Gallaz
    FXD
    Impala
    Dwindle
    Enjoi
    Blind
    Almost
    Clich�
    Darkstar
    Tensor
    Speed Demons
    Dusters Of California
    Wreck


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe_International



The part where they had an IPO and began trading on the Aussie Stock Exchange would seem like it's rather far from skate owned.
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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #190 on: December 29, 2015, 04:01:06 PM »
If he is "in hiding" , it would be a generic skateboard marketing scheme to "build anticipation" for:

A) Guy Mariano colorway Nike flip flop model

B) "omg, wut company is he gna ryde 4?" "r him and Fr0st0n in caho0tz? " "i bet it'll be called CaNdY K0rN sk8z" etc

Weird to me that , in skateboarding, your skateboard sponsor matters the least these days. (well , and has for a good while)

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #191 on: December 29, 2015, 04:25:43 PM »
^i'd agree with most of that. rickk and mike cashed out and took altamonts money at the end of their careers. now guy is doing his version of the same thing. how can someone say one is ok but the other is not? 

also guy was probably getting paid a good living wage, but not something he is going to be able to retire off of. nike probably offers long term stability, he'd be a fool at this point not to take it.

Long term stability? He is a 40 plus year old riding a skateboard for a living

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #192 on: December 29, 2015, 04:43:49 PM »
I was at the baths over the weekend, sitting in the porn room. People milled about about, many of them looking a little worse for wear.

There was a man stretched out to my left and another fellow scame in and started trying to pull his towel off to get at the goods. The first guy kind of pushed him away, saying he wanted to just relax, but the other guy kind-of kept at it, being really pushy and insistent.

Finally after a few minutes of this the first man shouted, "Leave me the fuck alone, Guy!" and got up and stormed out.

Guy back on meth and sucking cock in bath houses for crack CONFIRMED!

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #193 on: December 29, 2015, 04:45:40 PM »
I was at the baths over the weekend, sitting in the porn room. People milled about about, many of them looking a little worse for wear.

There was a man stretched out to my left and another fellow scame in and started trying to pull his towel off to get at the goods. The first guy kind of pushed him away, saying he wanted to just relax, but the other guy kind-of kept at it, being really pushy and insistent.

Finally after a few minutes of this the first man shouted, "Leave me the fuck alone, Guy!" and got up and stormed out.

Guy back on meth and sucking cock in bath houses for crack CONFIRMED!

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #194 on: December 30, 2015, 03:58:29 AM »
I prefer the modern day Morrissey Guy to the gangster jerry curl Guy (via Mouse).

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #195 on: December 31, 2015, 06:06:05 AM »
Just to give some perspective of how the skater owned thing has been manipulated into another marketing ploy I remembered posting this in one of the other thousand Nike vs Core threads.

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One aspect I never understood about Consolidated's anti-Nike campaign is that they have their boards pressed in China. I understand there are larger principles with their campaign, but it's also sort of laughable they have their own company skeletons.
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A long time ago I found some blog that had information relating to Birdo and his upset that Nike had hired either a graphic designer or artist (could have been Betraund) from Consolidated to produce a Dunk colorway that resembled Consolidated's colours and he was pissed because he made no money off it. I had a quick search to see if I could find it but no luck do far but I did come across this quote.

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"Ok, there's a couple more things I'd like to add to the interview. It's about Consolidated. I've been biting my tongue about the whole thing cause I wanted to try and have a peaceful relationship with the people at Consolidated, but the last few ads that were made to directly attack the people who did leave, pissed me off. First off, the whole thing is about money. Birdo and Leticia are mad because they feel they should have been paid by Nike over the Send Help Dunk. the reason for starting up the Don't Do It campaign again is just to make some money riding Nike's coat tails. They're hoping to sell a lot of t-shirts, stickers, a few boards and you'll soon notice how they'll be getting more involved with clothing and shoes. I have to admit at first when they approached me about the whole thing I was taken aback by they're determination to keep skating pure by not letting such a large company come into the industry. I actually approached Leticia with the idea that if they're going to do this thing why not go all out. Instead of just attacking Nike, lets start a nonprofit organization and go after every large company that advertises in skateboard magazines. We could actually generate a lot of money to give back to skateboarding, with programs that would buy completes from shops and give them to kids in the community, hire good park builders for each city that wants a skatepark and just do something good for skateboarding. Her quick and cold response to this was "Oh no. We want to make money off of this". the weird thing is that people at nonprofit organizations actually make money. I just saw it as her not really even giving a fuck about skating. And the day I quit in person to Birdo he told me straight up "If Nike would have given me a million dollars I wouldn't even care about them being in skateboarding". This is from the people who are "so down" and have been dissing me and my friends for the past few months talking about "keeping it real". I've known for a long time their motto for their own company has been "it is what it is", they're so disconnected that they don't realize the same thing applies to skateboarding, it is what it is."

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #196 on: December 31, 2015, 07:55:46 AM »
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Just to give some perspective of how the skater owned thing has been manipulated into another marketing ploy I remembered posting this in one of the other thousand Nike vs Core threads.

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One aspect I never understood about Consolidated's anti-Nike campaign is that they have their boards pressed in China. I understand there are larger principles with their campaign, but it's also sort of laughable they have their own company skeletons.
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A long time ago I found some blog that had information relating to Birdo and his upset that Nike had hired either a graphic designer or artist (could have been Betraund) from Consolidated to produce a Dunk colorway that resembled Consolidated's colours and he was pissed because he made no money off it. I had a quick search to see if I could find it but no luck do far but I did come across this quote.

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"Ok, there's a couple more things I'd like to add to the interview. It's about Consolidated. I've been biting my tongue about the whole thing cause I wanted to try and have a peaceful relationship with the people at Consolidated, but the last few ads that were made to directly attack the people who did leave, pissed me off. First off, the whole thing is about money. Birdo and Leticia are mad because they feel they should have been paid by Nike over the Send Help Dunk. the reason for starting up the Don't Do It campaign again is just to make some money riding Nike's coat tails. They're hoping to sell a lot of t-shirts, stickers, a few boards and you'll soon notice how they'll be getting more involved with clothing and shoes. I have to admit at first when they approached me about the whole thing I was taken aback by they're determination to keep skating pure by not letting such a large company come into the industry. I actually approached Leticia with the idea that if they're going to do this thing why not go all out. Instead of just attacking Nike, lets start a nonprofit organization and go after every large company that advertises in skateboard magazines. We could actually generate a lot of money to give back to skateboarding, with programs that would buy completes from shops and give them to kids in the community, hire good park builders for each city that wants a skatepark and just do something good for skateboarding. Her quick and cold response to this was "Oh no. We want to make money off of this". the weird thing is that people at nonprofit organizations actually make money. I just saw it as her not really even giving a fuck about skating. And the day I quit in person to Birdo he told me straight up "If Nike would have given me a million dollars I wouldn't even care about them being in skateboarding". This is from the people who are "so down" and have been dissing me and my friends for the past few months talking about "keeping it real". I've known for a long time their motto for their own company has been "it is what it is", they're so disconnected that they don't realize the same thing applies to skateboarding, it is what it is."

- Emeric Pratt

(Taken from Swimmers Ear Magazine)
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Complete bull shit. The artist who worked for consolidated left on fine terms and was doing his own thing as an artist. When Nike approached him about designing dunks he said they were to have no affiliation with Consolidated and Birdo was never mad at the dude for doing his own thing with Nike. Tried to find the interview where this issue is discussed but I can't find it. Call bullshit on me, I don't care.
Are you incapable of comprehension or is this just part of you're dismiss all relevant information style of discussion? This wasn't about the Dunk colorway, it was about how Consolidated was using the Don't Do It campaign to make money rather than rallying against corporate involvement.
Who said anything about beef between Birdo and the artist? His beef was about the supposed appropriation of his brands colors being used and him not getting a cut. Keep burying your head in you ass bro.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #197 on: December 31, 2015, 08:04:31 AM »
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Who said anything about beef between Birdo and the artist? His beef was about the supposed appropriation of his brands colors being used and him not getting a cut. Keep burying your head in you ass bro.

The "consolidunk" was an unofficial name given to the supposed consolidated collab with Nike, when it had no affiliation with Consolidated whatsoever. They were the "Send Help" dunks. So Emeric's quote (which you will NOT find in the article in Swimmer's Ear Mag by the way) means nothing because it simply isn't true. That's if he even said it, the only thing he mentioned about Consolidated in the article was that Birdo gave him the choice to ride for Consolidated or Nike and Emeric chose Nike.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #198 on: December 31, 2015, 08:11:23 AM »
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Who said anything about beef between Birdo and the artist? His beef was about the supposed appropriation of his brands colors being used and him not getting a cut. Keep burying your head in you ass bro.
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The "consolidunk" was an unofficial name given to the supposed consolidated collab with Nike, when it had no affiliation with Consolidated whatsoever. They were the "Send Help" dunks. So Emeric's quote (which you will NOT find in the article in Swimmer's Ear Mag by the way) means nothing because it simply isn't true. That's if he even said it, the only thing he mentioned about Consolidated in the article was that Birdo gave him the choice to ride for Consolidated or Nike and Emeric chose Nike.
So you're going to keep banging on about Dunks instead if addressing the Don't Do It campaigns total obliviousness to giving a fuck about skateboarding and lining their own pockets. Get a grip.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #199 on: December 31, 2015, 08:43:49 AM »
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Who said anything about beef between Birdo and the artist? His beef was about the supposed appropriation of his brands colors being used and him not getting a cut. Keep burying your head in you ass bro.
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The "consolidunk" was an unofficial name given to the supposed consolidated collab with Nike, when it had no affiliation with Consolidated whatsoever. They were the "Send Help" dunks. So Emeric's quote (which you will NOT find in the article in Swimmer's Ear Mag by the way) means nothing because it simply isn't true. That's if he even said it, the only thing he mentioned about Consolidated in the article was that Birdo gave him the choice to ride for Consolidated or Nike and Emeric chose Nike.
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So you're going to keep banging on about Dunks instead if addressing the Don't Do It campaigns total obliviousness to giving a fuck about skateboarding and lining their own pockets. Get a grip.

YOU just brought up the whole appropriation argument and are basically agreeing with the notion that Birdo wanted money from Nike, when I'm telling you Birdo was completely aware of the dunk NOT having any affiliation with Nike. So if the quote is even real, it's a lie.

And how is the Don't Do It campaign "lining their pockets with money"? They're spreading awareness through free information online and giving away free stickers. Birdo sends extra stickers to my local shop so if you want some they can hook you up for free. Sure, he sells shirts and boards with "Don't Do It" on them, but you're supporting a core company by buying it and it's also educating the youth. If you think he's making a killing "selling" a revolution within the industry you're just choosing to be cynical.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #200 on: December 31, 2015, 09:18:38 AM »
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Who said anything about beef between Birdo and the artist? His beef was about the supposed appropriation of his brands colors being used and him not getting a cut. Keep burying your head in you ass bro.
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The "consolidunk" was an unofficial name given to the supposed consolidated collab with Nike, when it had no affiliation with Consolidated whatsoever. They were the "Send Help" dunks. So Emeric's quote (which you will NOT find in the article in Swimmer's Ear Mag by the way) means nothing because it simply isn't true. That's if he even said it, the only thing he mentioned about Consolidated in the article was that Birdo gave him the choice to ride for Consolidated or Nike and Emeric chose Nike.
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So you're going to keep banging on about Dunks instead if addressing the Don't Do It campaigns total obliviousness to giving a fuck about skateboarding and lining their own pockets. Get a grip.
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YOU just brought up the whole appropriation argument and are basically agreeing with the notion that Birdo wanted money from Nike, when I'm telling you Birdo was completely aware of the dunk NOT having any affiliation with Nike. So if the quote is even real, it's a lie.

And how is the Don't Do It campaign "lining their pockets with money"? They're spreading awareness through free information online and giving away free stickers. Birdo sends extra stickers to my local shop so if you want some they can hook you up for free. Sure, he sells shirts and boards with "Don't Do It" on them, but you're supporting a core company by buying it and it's also educating the youth. If you think he's making a killing "selling" a revolution within the industry you're just choosing to be cynical.

Id say Consolidated are making money by trashing Nike . Its a weird campaign . Consolidated hasnt done anything good since ? , I remember One was a big influence  . But I cant name a single skater on the team or video besides that .

All I know about consolidated now is that they are making money of nike . Kinda weird making money of something you hate , might be worse then the company you hate

As I brought up before . Even if Nike leaves skateboarding , its no worse then the other 100 skate companies that closed down or went bankrupt . But Nike would have at least raised the quality of skate shoes . Sponsored more skaters then several companies together . Raised money and sponsored parks . supported some of the best skaters in the business and made some great videos

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #201 on: December 31, 2015, 04:13:00 PM »
He's gonna be on Nike wood along with Luan and Koston. In the future we shall also see Nyjah on said brand.  Team Olympics  :(

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #202 on: December 31, 2015, 04:14:52 PM »
He's gonna be on Nike wood along with Luan and Koston. In the future we shall also see Nyjah on said brand.  Team Olympics  :(

Nyjah and guy are both on nike already.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #203 on: December 31, 2015, 05:08:02 PM »
Nyjah and guy are both on nike already.
yeah but nike boards.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #204 on: December 31, 2015, 05:46:38 PM »
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Nyjah and guy are both on nike already.
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yeah but nike boards.

Sorry. Missed that. Even though its right in the fucking sentence. My bad

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #205 on: January 01, 2016, 03:36:01 PM »
Slap seems to think that Nike got to the level they are at due to poor business practices. These corporations issue budgets for subdivisions.   Nike SB is not getting any where near the funding that something like Nike Golf is. Yes, they sell a lot of shoes- but they sure as shit aren't making even close to the amount of profit off of middle aged white people buying golf balls with a profit margin of 500%. They also employ a ton of people, researching, manufacturing, accounting, the full nine. That being said, there is no way they are throwing around large sums of "life changing" money to pouch skaters. What they are doing, is offering benefits that are undeniable to someone that skates for a living. This is a good business practice that Nike is revered for- they treat athletes and mid level employees really well. There is no way that Lakai even thinks about offering dental insurance to the kids of their riders. Guy is going into hiding because he sold out. In the skateboard industry taking care of your riders in beyond free meals and ER room bills is overlooked. It's unique to this industry and Guy needed a solution for his fucking family. It sucks but imagine if you were all of a sudden hated for doing something you essentially had to do.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #206 on: January 01, 2016, 07:47:35 PM »
Slap seems to think that Nike got to the level they are at due to poor business practices. These corporations issue budgets for subdivisions.   Nike SB is not getting any where near the funding that something like Nike Golf is. Yes, they sell a lot of shoes- but they sure as shit aren't making even close to the amount of profit off of middle aged white people buying golf balls with a profit margin of 500%. They also employ a ton of people, researching, manufacturing, accounting, the full nine. That being said, there is no way they are throwing around large sums of "life changing" money to pouch skaters. What they are doing, is offering benefits that are undeniable to someone that skates for a living. This is a good business practice that Nike is revered for- they treat athletes and mid level employees really well. There is no way that Lakai even thinks about offering dental insurance to the kids of their riders. Guy is going into hiding because he sold out. In the skateboard industry taking care of your riders in beyond free meals and ER room bills is overlooked. It's unique to this industry and Guy needed a solution for his fucking family. It sucks but imagine if you were all of a sudden hated for doing something you essentially had to do.

Tell your wife to get a fucking job, and one with benefits if that is the issue.

He sold out, plain and simple

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #207 on: January 01, 2016, 08:09:58 PM »
If you guys really want to back the whole skater owned thing you should buy products from Globe International,
started by 2 Aussie skateboarders Peter and Stephen Hill back in the 80's

Their brands include..
    Globe
    Gallaz
    FXD
    Impala
    Dwindle
    Enjoi
    Blind
    Almost
    Clich�
    Darkstar
    Tensor
    Speed Demons
    Dusters Of California
    Wreck


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe_International



I've gone on their website before and the investors page is blank...who knows who they are backed by.

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #208 on: January 01, 2016, 11:23:41 PM »
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If you guys really want to back the whole skater owned thing you should buy products from Globe International,
started by 2 Aussie skateboarders Peter and Stephen Hill back in the 80's

Their brands include..
    Globe
    Gallaz
    FXD
    Impala
    Dwindle
    Enjoi
    Blind
    Almost
    Clich�
    Darkstar
    Tensor
    Speed Demons
    Dusters Of California
    Wreck


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globe_International


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I've gone on their website before and the investors page is blank...who knows who they are backed by.
The Hill brothers grandfather was the inventor of the Hills Hoist and came from money. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hills_Hoist

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Re: Why's Guy gone into hiding
« Reply #209 on: January 01, 2016, 11:27:35 PM »
Nothing better than guys behind a keyboard saying what Guy isn't allowed to do with his own life...

When you're about to hit your 40's with a family, and with no education and realize the only career path left is a warehouse job, you'd sign a contract with Nike too.  Don't even attempt to give us that stupid fucking "I'm so core I would be homeless" shit.  If you have a family, you're gonna do what you have to do, which some of you are apparently too immature to admit