Started skating the #508's. I think I'm 4 sessions in with these shoes. First impressions; broken in right out of the box, very soft squishy sole, very little protection in the forefoot but some decent cushion in the heel. I've been on the thick cup kick for sometime now. So jumping to these, my feet are killing me. Especially in the transverse arch area. I pretty much skate everyday at most 3-4 hours. I can't see myself continuing skating these shoes. But it's got a really good flick and board feel. But I would sacrifice a good flick/board feel for a little more sustenance underneath my foot. Anyone enjoy the westgates? I feel the 440v2 and the foy's have some more underneath the foot than the 508's.