State footwear.

[Randozzi]

Import taxes/customs duties add to the cost for Canadians.

[art hellman]

oh, totally, and I wasn't necessarily directing the $65 cupsole at State. Just seems like everyone expects a cupsole to be more expensive than a vulc... when, there have been examples that it doesn't have to always be the case.

sorta on the same line... canvas doesn't always mean a shoe will blow out in one session.  I had a pair of canvas adi-ease that lasted a while thanks to the placement of the foxing tape. 

if the State shoes are made well...I'd be happy to buy a pair. 

[slappies]

I'd be happy putting money in the pockets of anyone involved in this, it's just a lot of money coming out of my pocket into theirs. Then again, as said before, it is a skater owned company and it's something everyone is hoping for right now. I'll grab a pair, and if they're worth it I'm sure I'll get a few more. If it isn't, well God have mercy on their souls.

EDIT: FUCK I should have said "soles" not "souls".

[Julz]

You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

[shit_for_brains]

You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

[Level 60 Dwarf Paladin]

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You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

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That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

BUT IT'S SKATER OWNED BRO.

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

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You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

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That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

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BUT IT'S SKATER OWNED BRO.

I just love this idea of supporting a brand that tries to sell you a product for all the reasons in existence, from concept to "skater-owned" but the quality of the product itself.
A guy tried to convince me that i shouldnt buy nike's or adidas because skate industry isnt about the product, is about the feeling and counter-culture. I laughted.
If you dont like the product that a brand is trying to sell, you shouldnt feel bad for not support them, skater owned or not.

[144p]

I just love this idea of supporting a brand that tries to sell you a product for all the reasons in existence, from concept to "skater-owned" but the quality of the product itself.
A guy tried to convince me that i shouldnt buy nike's or adidas because skate industry isnt about the product, is about the feeling and counter-culture. I laughted.
If you dont like the product that a brand is trying to sell, you shouldnt feel bad for not support them, skater owned or not.

Harsh reality but very true.
You can't half step to one of the most snap judgement industries out there.
Gonna have an open mind for this brand and hope for the best.

[Julz]

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You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

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That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

Totally, the idea of supporting skater owned is to support guys who share the same/similar vision as ours of what skateboarding is.... Why else do we care about who makes the profit ?

[j....soy.....]

Import taxes/customs duties add to the cost for Canadians.

Tack on the change in the CAD.....

[shit_for_brains]

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You guys are aware that on a $60-80 pair of shoes, a small company like state will earn very little (if any) profits for the first 3-5 years. Add the fact that the odds of surviving are very small. There's alot of hands to feed before catching the big bucks, especially when you don't have the big box resources. They're gambling on this one, and it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs)

That being said, their shoes still look like shit... Sorry, it's just a dekline 2.0 for me.

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That paragraph combined with their initial high prices just makes them sound like a charity case I am somehow obligated to support.

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Totally, the idea of supporting skater owned is to support guys who share the same/similar vision as ours of what skateboarding is.... Why else do we care about who makes the profit ?

You're a sucker.

[Julz]

You're taking this shit too seriously

[shit_for_brains]

You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

[j....soy.....]

In the 90's skaters abandoned skate shoes to skate Pumas and adidas ie. At the time non skate shoes.....I don't expect that to happen...

[Julz]

You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.

[Makaveli]

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You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

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The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.

Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

[shit_for_brains]

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You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

[close]

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.

[close]

Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

Do you need attention?

[GAY]

Not feeling any part of this company. The shoe names are terrible. I give it a year at the most. 

This made me laugh and roll my eyes simultaneously. Are we really buying/not buying shoes based on the name a particular model is given?

[Tracer]

I just have a feeling, but I feel like state's gonna grow to something really big!

Yep people round here will eat this shit up. Very heavy intro catalog, the Salem looks good

[brwrxstl]

As much as JC has been annoying me with his recent collabs, if JS is involved with this I will definitely buy.

Looking back at it all that collab shit was like the beginning of the end for AWS too. I mean has Habitat even been back for a year yet? I fucking lazy can they get.

[Makaveli]

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You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

[close]

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.

[close]

Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

[close]

Do you need attention?

Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.

[brwrxstl]

90% of the "skater owned" shoe companies out there kooked themselves right into extinction doing exactly what they accused the big brands of doing....

Going after the $$$$$

[Sold Out]

How you guys seen the team yet?! ... YAJE 

[Jordick]

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At least they made a canvas/suede version for $65
http://www.hufworldwide.com/product-detail/footwear/classic-lo-ess-navy-white

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plus they're on clearance everywhere i look...you could easily scoop a pair of classics for $30 with 10 minutes of digging.

You could always get em at Walmart for cheap

[shit_for_brains]

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You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

[close]

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.

[close]

Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

[close]

Do you need attention?

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Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.

Be serious. You keep tabs on me. Yes I'm jealous I never walked off a building or went to prison for stealing from my dad, but my ex thought Puleo was some kind of sex offender and he followed her around with his nose up her ass (like you do to me!). You know that because I told you years ago when you brought it up. Update your file.

All I do with my life is work. I know you have "several" "degrees", but a lot of us who work indoors do so on computers. If you put those degrees to use you can sort the time spent on slap part out.

[Second Division]

In the 90's skaters abandoned skate shoes to skate Pumas and adidas ie. At the time non skate shoes.....I don't expect that to happen...

This.

Also, people started skating skate shoe brands in the first place because the big companies didn't really make skate shoes (ie. Jordan 1's worked, but still weren't ideal). Essentially, all the "core" brands appeared to fill a void in the market that was there for many years, that the larger brands are now filling with their quality product actually meant for skating, and forcing those core brands back out.

That being said, I still try to not buy from Nike, Adidas, Cons, but just making an overall point of what's going on that I feel like so many people forget about because they are stuck on the "skater-owned" argument.

[Makaveli]

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You're abandoning your argument with a weak deflection. You don't think it's shitty that you're expected to overpay for some pro-keds simply because the guys making them also skate? Your "core" beliefs are being exploited, ding dong.

But hey, they skate so we owe them.

[close]

The only thing I did was justify the higher price tag on an independent and up and coming small brand. I never showed any signs of being a core guy. FFS, I've stated twice on this thread that they we're shit looking shoes, and more so, I've posted a bunch of busenitz on SLAP. All i said was that it's worth it to support them (if you like their designs).

So, going back to my statement, you do take this shit too seriously and you are over analyzing my quote simply cause that's all you seem to do with your life, trying to get into arguments with people on SLAP.

[close]

Hey, don't about worry shit for brains. He's just a surly old fart that's bitter about all the people he grew up skating with turning pro, while the closest thing he got to that was Bobby Puleo fucking his girlfriend.

[close]

Do you need attention?

[close]

Repeatedly saying I call you out because I want attention says more about your motivation for calling people out. It is, as Julz already stated, all you seem to do with your life.

[close]

Be serious. You keep tabs on me. Yes I'm jealous I never walked off a building or went to prison for stealing from my dad, but my ex thought Puleo was some kind of sex offender and he followed her around with his nose up her ass (like you do to me!). You know that because I told you years ago when you brought it up. Update your file.

All I do with my life is work. I know you have "several" "degrees", but a lot of us who work indoors do so on computers. If you put those degrees to use you can sort the time spent on slap part out.

Oh c'mon, you know it's you who keeps tabs on me.

All I know about you is that Renaud/Puleo stuff. I like their skating, so your comments stood out to me because I think it's hilarious that someone they know goes on the internet and, not only talks shit about them, but about everybody else, too. How is that not memorable?

[jpmulls]

Now that they are available does anyone know how to get 50% off your first order?

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

relevant interview: http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/05/23/introducing-state-footwear-a-new-skateboard-shoe-brand/
(did this get posted here? apologies if it did...)

[ferraveemo]

damn they already got some pairs before majority of shops? haha

http://www.zumiez.com/brands/state-footwear.html