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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #750 on: August 28, 2021, 06:35:43 PM »
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Couple of months on Bones Super Reds. Imo, they are shite. They have this lagging sensation. Probably weak tolerances. I used to skate Bones Swiss six balls, and had done so for many many years without this terrible sensation.

Anyone tried SKF or NTN 608-2RS? Proper bearings by big bearing companies who make stuff for aero etc.
They cost about around $70 tho
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Those Oski SKF bearings are so cheap, like $30. I doubt they have the same tolerances.

Yea most likely not, it’s tough to find industrial bearings with nylon cages, most have stainless
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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #751 on: August 29, 2021, 09:15:13 AM »
Has anyone tried Fireball Dragon bearings? Or is that just pure sacrilege because it's "longboard shit"? I like the fact that they give exact specifications for their products and claim they are manufactured within +/-0.02mm tolerances. They also claim to have improved seals and heavier grease on the Endure version for longevity.

Decent for $10 but don't expect much, go Reds or Mini Logo.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #752 on: August 29, 2021, 09:41:26 AM »
Has anyone tried Fireball Dragon bearings? Or is that just pure sacrilege because it's "longboard shit"? I like the fact that they give exact specifications for their products and claim they are manufactured within +/-0.02mm tolerances. They also claim to have improved seals and heavier grease on the Endure version for longevity.
@MysticalTypeExperience, for what it’s worth, saying that they are manufactured within +/-0.02 mm tolerance is largely meaningless, not just because they do t specify which parts are maintained to that tolerance.  ABEC-1 bearings are +/-0.008 mm for reference, and ABEC rating has nothing to do with surface finish, roundness of the balls, or material selection.  They also have nothing to do with how “fast” the bearing is, just how precise it is, and thus the maximum speed capability.  ABEC-1 bearings more than exceed the speeds that are seen in skateboarding.

Unfortunately what is important to skateboard bearings doesn’t actually have any standards, so there’s not really any way to accurately compare bearings.  Essentially more expensive is generally better, but choosing which expensive ones are the best is at most an educated guess.

Grease will make them last longer, but they will be “slower” due to the higher viscosity compared to oil.
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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #753 on: August 29, 2021, 08:29:20 PM »
Swiss. I had them for six months now and realised today one wheel was stuck so I took them out and cleaned them in acetone. Four of them run smooth but the other four don't and I can't remove the bearing cage retainers no matter how I try so I put them back on but I have a feeling I will have to replace them eventually unless I can clean them properly.

Anything that feels jammed up can usually be spun between your fingers to help get the muck out as well, so give them a bit of a soak, then spin them a bit, give them another shake or two, spin them again, repeat until they spin freely.

This usually works to get almost everything out of them. 

Note:  You don't need to have them zinging, just slowly turn the bearings between your fingers a bit, back and forward and that way you can get even moderately rusted up or totally seized up bearings running fairly freely again.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #754 on: August 30, 2021, 12:43:45 AM »
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Swiss. I had them for six months now and realised today one wheel was stuck so I took them out and cleaned them in acetone. Four of them run smooth but the other four don't and I can't remove the bearing cage retainers no matter how I try so I put them back on but I have a feeling I will have to replace them eventually unless I can clean them properly.
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Anything that feels jammed up can usually be spun between your fingers to help get the muck out as well, so give them a bit of a soak, then spin them a bit, give them another shake or two, spin them again, repeat until they spin freely.

This usually works to get almost everything out of them. 

Note:  You don't need to have them zinging, just slowly turn the bearings between your fingers a bit, back and forward and that way you can get even moderately rusted up or totally seized up bearings running fairly freely again.

Thanks I shall do that the next time they clog up.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #755 on: October 18, 2021, 07:34:54 AM »
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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #756 on: October 30, 2021, 07:33:46 AM »
I have exploded 3 bones swiss bearings in bones stf v3s in the past month. Super bummed, they are only 1yo bearings.

I remember for some reason the 'bearing hole' seemed super tight i couldn't get them to fully seat just pushing onto the truck, I had to use a socket that was the same size as outer ring and a hammer to knock them into place. The f4's i had never needed this much force. Could this have anything to do with all of my bearings just exploding out of the blue?

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #757 on: October 30, 2021, 06:51:07 PM »
From now on I'm on Big Ballz (Chinese  Bones 6 balls) for budget bearings and Quantums for fancy.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #758 on: October 30, 2021, 07:13:22 PM »
From now on I'm on Big Ballz (Chinese  Bones 6 balls) for budget bearings and Quantums for fancy.

I just cleaned my swiss 6 and big balls with 99% iso, both sets are bone dry right now.

Swiss 6: Hissing and smooth like a motherfucker - I've had this set for years, going to run them dry and into the ground

Big Balls: crusty and slow just doing the finger spin (index and thumb), just like they were before cleaning. I re-lubed them and they're still fucked somehow. There is one that is 'ok' but they're toast. Never again.

Sticking with Swiss 6 and Bronson Ceramics (these things are so fast right now, with shields), do want to try Quantum tho, probably my next new set.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #759 on: October 30, 2021, 07:17:27 PM »
Swiss  6 are the best but so spendy these days. Quantum are a better bang for the buck IMO.

I cleaned my Big Ballz with gasoline (big no no I know) but they have been great since.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #760 on: October 30, 2021, 07:41:34 PM »
Swiss  6 are the best but so spendy these days. Quantum are a better bang for the buck IMO.

I cleaned my Big Ballz with gasoline (big no no I know) but they have been great since.

The first cleaning I used a citrus cleaner (cleaned the same set of Swiss 6 at the same time, too) and they've been fucked ever since (swiss 6 held up fine after the citrus cleaner). It's kind of a good thing tho, as I popped the shields at first cleaning and can't tell them apart from my swiss 6 other than they've been fucked since then (I keep them separated).
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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #761 on: October 30, 2021, 08:24:36 PM »
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Swiss  6 are the best but so spendy these days. Quantum are a better bang for the buck IMO.

I cleaned my Big Ballz with gasoline (big no no I know) but they have been great since.
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The first cleaning I used and citrus cleaner (cleaned the same set of S6 at the same time, too) they've been fucked ever since. It's kind of a good thing tho, I popped the shields at first cleaning and can't tell them apart from my swiss 6 other than they've been fucked since then (I keep them separated).

Did the swiss 6 have black / dark bearing cages but the Reds 6 have clear bearing cages?

That was how I could always tell them apart when fixing them, given they were all Bones bearings.  Modus and some other brands also have the dark bearing cages too, but they have a different shape to them.


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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #762 on: October 30, 2021, 08:28:47 PM »
I have exploded 3 bones swiss bearings in bones stf v3s in the past month. Super bummed, they are only 1yo bearings.

I remember for some reason the 'bearing hole' seemed super tight i couldn't get them to fully seat just pushing onto the truck, I had to use a socket that was the same size as outer ring and a hammer to knock them into place. The f4's i had never needed this much force. Could this have anything to do with all of my bearings just exploding out of the blue?

I couldn't say for sure, but there could be something in it - wheels not holding bearings easily could cause other issues.

Other factors include how lubed or dry they were, what was happening to them (how you were skating) and how old they were.

Given I have seen some swiss last twenty years and others seemingly not last a month, it is a funny situation sometimes.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #763 on: October 30, 2021, 08:58:24 PM »
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Swiss  6 are the best but so spendy these days. Quantum are a better bang for the buck IMO.

I cleaned my Big Ballz with gasoline (big no no I know) but they have been great since.
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The first cleaning I used and citrus cleaner (cleaned the same set of S6 at the same time, too) they've been fucked ever since. It's kind of a good thing tho, I popped the shields at first cleaning and can't tell them apart from my swiss 6 other than they've been fucked since then (I keep them separated).
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Did the swiss 6 have black / dark bearing cages but the Reds 6 have clear bearing cages?

That was how I could always tell them apart when fixing them, given they were all Bones bearings.  Modus and some other brands also have the dark bearing cages too, but they have a different shape to them.




Yessir! The Big Balls were white/clear...but that's when they were new, after getting them filthy, they are just as grey/dark as the swiss six now.

In hindsight I should have marked the races or something to not mix them up with the swiss...but hte isopropyl method clearly defines which is which.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #764 on: October 30, 2021, 09:08:49 PM »
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Swiss  6 are the best but so spendy these days. Quantum are a better bang for the buck IMO.

I cleaned my Big Ballz with gasoline (big no no I know) but they have been great since.
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The first cleaning I used and citrus cleaner (cleaned the same set of S6 at the same time, too) they've been fucked ever since. It's kind of a good thing tho, I popped the shields at first cleaning and can't tell them apart from my swiss 6 other than they've been fucked since then (I keep them separated).
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Did the swiss 6 have black / dark bearing cages but the Reds 6 have clear bearing cages?

That was how I could always tell them apart when fixing them, given they were all Bones bearings.  Modus and some other brands also have the dark bearing cages too, but they have a different shape to them.



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Yessir! The Big Balls were white/clear...but that's when they were new, after getting them filthy, they are just as grey/dark as the swiss six now.

In hindsight I should have marked the races or something to not mix them up with the swiss...but hte isopropyl method clearly defines which is which.

Ha yeah when they are dirty they are harder to tell apart, but when I wiped a little off the back, I can usually see they are clear under all the muck, even if it is the tiny smallest bit of clear...

I talk too much about skateboards.  Sorry.

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Re: Which Bearings Are You Guys Running?
« Reply #765 on: November 03, 2021, 04:02:49 PM »
Had these Swiss for a good amount of time. Retainer was broken for a while, but finally exploded today. Glad I wasn't going fast.