Venture 2020

[yourbreakfsat]

Ishod skating ventures
 

Ishod leaves dlx to join dlx :v

[backside_frontside]

I just want to say that I set up some V-hollows yesterday and can confirm my pop increased by 17%.

[SlapMcKracken]

I just want to say that I set up some V-hollows yesterday and can confirm my pop increased by 17%.

What deck are you riding and what trucks did you have before ?

[SlapMcKracken]

Just in general for me. I liked venture v-hollow or standards paired with PS stix boards compared to BBS. Some examples that worked well were quasi, gx1000, and WKND. I’d say that the venture hollows worked better with flatter decks and the standards worked better with steeper decks for some reason.

And BBS in general has steeper decks? AWS/ habitat are steep or mellow?

[hobochimp]

Ishod skating ventures
 

Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board

[iw0]

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Ishod skating ventures
 

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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board

not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

[rocklobster]

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Ishod skating ventures
 

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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board

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not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

Pros riding brands that they aren't sponsored by?! What's next?!

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

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Ishod skating ventures
 

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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board

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not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

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Pros riding brands that they aren't sponsored by?! What's next?!

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

hey now, don't be trying to ruin my national lampoon presents: ishod's european vacation fun

[IpathCats]

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Ishod skating ventures
 

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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board

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not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

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Pros riding brands that they aren't sponsored by?! What's next?!

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

I'm LITERALLY shaking over here.

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

It 100% does

[maggot cunt]

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

It 100% does
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but are they hi’s or lo’s tho 

[SlapMcKracken]

Ok, i wanted to Skate AWS and habitat boards next with my new venture hi‘s, cause I thought most of these decks have a 14“ wb, but found out the shop I’m buying from messed up almost all the measurements and most have  longer wheelbases.

So I probably get a GX with a 14 or 14.1 wb.
What other brands share the same shape as gx? 



What decks are you riding with hi ventures? 

[El Freegano]

Last year i had v-hollows on a dlx deck with 14 wb that worked perfect. I also sk8ed them on a deck with 14.25 with steep kicks that made me ghost pop for some tricks. In the past i was skating a lot the lows on of 14 wb decks with mellow kicks and that were probably my best skate period.

[SlapMcKracken]

It’s just really not that easy to get decks from 8.0-8.125 with 14 wb that often that come with fuller noses and that don’t have too steep kicks.

FA/Hockey would just be perfect if they weren’t that steep.
Always 14“ wb with 8-8.2 decks

[JugeL]

It’s just really not that easy to get decks from 8.0-8.125 with 14 wb that often that come with fuller noses and that don’t have too steep kicks.

FA/Hockey would just be perfect if they weren’t that steep.
Always 14“ wb with 8-8.2 decks

Real full SE

[IpathCats]

The twin tail is 14.4, Bobby and ishod skate venture/thunder, doesn't bother them

[IpathCats]

The twin tail is 14.4, Bobby and ishod skate venture/thunder, doesn't bother them

Maybe we should just train to transcend the limits of long wb boards on long wb trucks. There's clearly something to it. Bobby and ishod are at the top of their game.

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The twin tail is 14.4, Bobby and ishod skate venture/thunder, doesn't bother them

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Maybe we should just train to transcend the limits of long wb boards on long wb trucks. There's clearly something to it. Bobby and ishod are at the top of their game.

Carl Aikens new shape has a 14.5” wb, he skated ventures. Just saying.

[Idk]

On Insts Ishod said they didn’t have Thunders at the shop.

[Fooj]

I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

[SlapMcKracken]

I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? 🤔

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? 🤔

There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what

[backside_frontside]

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I just want to say that I set up some V-hollows yesterday and can confirm my pop increased by 17%.

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What deck are you riding and what trucks did you have before ?

Currently riding a Quasi 8.125 x 31.75 x 14.125. Was riding standard ventures highs (5.2 width I think, whatever is for 7.75-8.125), stock bushings and stock tightness. And before that, I sakted Krux for many years (kook me if you want lol). I try not to overthink the wheelbase. More concerned with overall board length and shape of the nose/tail.

[Noble Experiment]

I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

This. So many people put emphasis on ventures being paired on a board with a short wb but not too many people take into effect other things such as the length of the tail, how steep the tail is, fingers of flat, the overall length of the board in comparison to the wb, etc.
A 14 inch wb board with a super steep tail with only like one finger of flat on the tail is probably gonna take more effort to pop with ventures and give you way more ghost pop than a 14.5 wb board that has a super flat tail with like three and a half fingers of flat on the tail.

[SlapMcKracken]

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? 🤔

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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what

Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?

[Fooj]

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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This. So many people put emphasis on ventures being paired on a board with a short wb but not too many people take into effect other things such as the length of the tail, how steep the tail is, fingers of flat, the overall length of the board in comparison to the wb, etc.
A 14 inch wb board with a super steep tail with only like one finger of flat on the tail is probably gonna take more effort to pop with ventures and give you way more ghost pop than a 14.5 wb board that has a super flat tail with like three and a half fingers of flat on the tail.

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? 🤔

The best one im currently aware of is the April 8.25 shape, I saw on another thread that it was a Primitive design, it feels like it was made for Venture. Tactics has the tail measuring super long at 6.81", which for me made the pop on Thunders and Ace feel too soft and dead. 

Once i got Venture hi's on felt great, im on my 6th in a row.  Similar general feel and skateability that i get with Thunders+6.5" tail DLX deck but with more noticeably pop overall, im guessing since im higher up with more leverage. Obviously less wheelbite too.

Ive been scoping out some decks with 6.75" tails to maybe try since theyre more common but i dont really have any reason to change right now.

[Fooj]

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? 🤔

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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what

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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?

Talking in Tactics measurements, it seems like the dlx standard is 6.5" and some 6.625". That seems to work well with thunders, indy forged and ace.  Ive seen some decks with tails below 6.5", like 6.3" or something, i wouldnt touch those.  I think anything above a 6.7" tail is considered long. Heroin Symmetrical egg with 7" kicks seems interesting on hi's

Like others have mentioned tho, tail steepness would also matter

[LewFarrell]

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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This. So many people put emphasis on ventures being paired on a board with a short wb but not too many people take into effect other things such as the length of the tail, how steep the tail is, fingers of flat, the overall length of the board in comparison to the wb, etc.
A 14 inch wb board with a super steep tail with only like one finger of flat on the tail is probably gonna take more effort to pop with ventures and give you way more ghost pop than a 14.5 wb board that has a super flat tail with like three and a half fingers of flat on the tail.

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? 🤔

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The best one im currently aware of is the April 8.25 shape, I saw on another thread that it was a Primitive design, it feels like it was made for Venture. Tactics has the tail measuring super long at 6.81", which for me made the pop on Thunders and Ace feel too soft and dead. 

Once i got Venture hi's on felt great, im on my 6th in a row.  Similar general feel and skateability that i get with Thunders+6.5" tail DLX deck but with more noticeably pop overall, im guessing since im higher up with more leverage. Obviously less wheelbite too.

Ive been scoping out some decks with 6.75" tails to maybe try since theyre more common but i dont really have any reason to change right now.

April 8.25 is definitely 6.81" tail per their website. Props to them for listing it in the product descriptions, not a lot of brands do that.

Girl/Chocolate G052 shape is also similar. 6.875" nose, 6.8" tail and 14" wheelbase.

[Boog]

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.

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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? 🤔

[close]

There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what

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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?

Primitive, April, and chocolate all have great shapes for venture.

[Fooj]

that prod influence

[rocklobster]

This page has been nothing but praises for the stock bushings but I'm beginning to think the hardness improves the pinch and keeps the geometry as originally designed. Something about a harder pushing prevents the truck from articulating too much when locking in so you can hold it much longer, could also explain why I feel locking into tricks needs more authority and less of a gently touch. And the hardness helps with the pop out too, the James Craig tutorial on Fakie Ollie Fakie Crooked Grinds talks about how putting pressure on the bushing stores up the energy so you can get the rebound out of the grind mid ledge.



Edit: Coincidentally also rocking Ventures in the clip