If you like BBS because say the concave is steep with a certain kick like you stated, you can get that combo in a dsm board, or a ps stix, or clutch, or south central or anyone. You seem to think BBS just makes one shape, not all BBS will feel exactly like that. You generalized all decks from a board manufacturer as feeling one way when they don’t at all. If it’s a steep kick and steep concave with a small nose and tail I don’t like them regardless of board manufacturer. Dsm makes a lot like that, most of their impact decks have small nose and tails with too much concave and I don’t like it at all, that doesn’t mean dsm=that shape. I have an 8.38 enjoi with a full nose and tail 14.2 wheelbase mellow concave, medium kick and I bought it because it has a similar shape to the polar I’m on now from generator, and similar to the deluxe full SE shapes also BBS. I don’t like Deathwish decks generally because they are mellow with pointy noses and tails that doesn’t mean I can say BBS=this deathwish shape I don’t like. “Ive never stood on a bbs deck I’ve liked since 2005” sounds dumb because there’s even a variance in where it is in the stack while being pressed or what brand they made it for. I’ve been skating since 2003 but that doesn’t even matter at all, if you’ve skated so long you should know a board manufacturer has a range of different molds and shapes it’s impossible to generalize all of them. This isn’t cheeseburgers. There’s definitely a difference in the epoxy resin vs natural glue or the shape of the rails and feel of the board as they are made by different people, that doesn’t have to do with the shape of the molds though. Molds are made using numbers and ratios, wheelbase, concave, length of nose and tail, space behind the mounting bolts, two manufacturers can make the same shape and they do. Multiple manufacturers offer the same shapes with the same dimensions. If you’ve been skating so long you should start looking at the dimensions of the boards you like and the shape of the nose and tail instead of just who makes it. What dsm decks have you stood on that you didn’t like? What size were they? What concave? what kick? We’re they all different molds? Do you like every single BBS board? Do you like element decks made by BBS? Because element decks made by BBS don’t have the concave or kick you stated that you like.
I guess you completely misunderstood what I was saying, so I'll clarify.
Duhhhhh... every board manufacturer makes all sorts of different molds, does different wheelbases, constructions etc. I love that DLX gets BBS to put the roman numerals on the decks now to specify where they were in the stack because I like a deep concave.
I probably stood on almost every DSM deck that was my size that came through the distro I worked at for many years, never once felt one I liked. And yes, I realize they make a huge range of molds - still none I liked.
Lots of the BBS boards were too mellow, lots had shapes I didn't like. But, they DO make the particular concave/kick/shape combo I like the most, so that's why i stick with BBS, mostly. Fucking loved the South Central pressed boards I rode, but they're rare around here.
It would seem you're under the impression that each manufacturer makes an exact copy - somewhere in their line of molds - of every mold that every other manufacturer has? Or is it just your favorite, DSM, that does that? They literally make every other mold, by every other manufacturer? Amazing.
Who am I even arguing with? You clearly don't understand that two different manufacturers aren't going to end up with an identical product, or you're just not sensitive enough to the minute differences between decks to notice that sort of thing. I'm incredibly picky about boards - too picky. And that's why I definitely notice a huge difference between the closest DSM mold to my favorite BBS mold, and the real thing. Night and day. I've literally built boards for a living man, you're really gonna try to school me on on this?
Edit: You're not fan of DSM, my bad.