First of all thanks to Pabst for finding me that link , thanks dude
So Tufty
You cant be very rich if you dont exploit others
You cant be "successful" if you are not playing the game right, and to play the game right you have to be a sociopath asshole
http://www.globalrichlist.com/I entered pretty much minimum wage in Sweden numbers , thats lower then what somebody at Burger King or McDonalds make in sweden and they still came in on top 3.5% of the world . Now you cant say top 3% or top 5% is not part of the richest on earth.
These are hard working , normal people who are maybe single parents , or just have a small apartment and is just living a normal life and you are calling them Sociopath assholes .
I cant believe there are people in the 21st century that fall for the PR scam that charity is....
I donate every month 10 euros to Médecins Sans Frontières and 10 euros to WWF . I do think my money does some good
I explained why the rich people's money are not their money. And of course I dont agree with a system that cant connect the needs of people with production and labor but can only cater the greedy assholes
Ok Im gonna need you to explain exactly how its not their money . Somebody deciding to move a factory to another country to make more money is not doing something illegal . You should check out what kind of webste you are on . A skateboarding one .
Where do u think your favorit companies gets their shoes and clothes made ? where does the wood come from ? where do the
wheels and trucks come from . Im kinda surprised you skate
Im starting to think you are communist ? you are saying people cant have their company where they want ? and you are saying government / people can just take the money of rich people just cause others need them more then rich people
You cant just take money from people cause you dont like what they do with it . There has to be some illegal action
I didnt vote for NATO and on the contrary I vote the only party in the Greek parliament that is against the NATO and the EU. However since I was born I am used to a lifestyle that is based on exploiting the third world,
I take responsibility for this and as a working man I see refugees as allies. My country is a colony anyway just like theirs but with better quality of life.
Dude you are on some next level white guilt here . You wanna take responsibility for things just by living in Europe . You werent even born / voted in some of these things . You still feel guilty for Romans / greek having slaves ? you feel responsibility for WW2 ? I mean Greece did participate in it . In that case I want to hold you personalty responsible for the deaths of all the Syrians who drowned trying to get to Greece . I mean they are trying to reach your country .
For excitableboy
Those countries you named are doing well for a variety of reasons, of which size and population are only one factor. The Norwegians drill, the Swiss bank, the Dutch provide a tax haven for even the most shady of companies. And Sweden is among the most comfortable places to live last I checked.
Actually thats 2 factors , not one ( cheap one , but funny ) Swiss has bank , Norway has oil and Sweden has comfort ? not sure what you mean . And Sweden is not a comfortable country , Its a cold country , we cant grow everything we want . Its thanks to Swedens good infrastructure and environmental programs that we can live good lifes , in heated houses
Its when countries are doing really good we have time and money to make it a good country . Look at the countries who have had many wars , countries who are poor , countries with very harsh climates / nature / living situations . 99% of them dont have amazing schools , most the people have to struggle to survive . Religion is super important , and they have very bad environmental programs .
All the scandinavian countries have time and money to work on these issues . Theres a reason why we work very hard on pollution , make sure nature and environmental issues are high on things to take care of . Why we value school / learning so much . Why instead of just trying to feed people we try to feed people the right things .
The things Im worries about are when at times right now in Sweden we dont have shelters enough for homeless people , how are we gonna do it when when we get lets say 20 000 refugese ? . Should we tell swedish citizens they have stay outside and freeze cause people from syria are taking theire spots
Not sure what the 4 million figure proves, let alone the 60 million. No one said Sweden should take all refugees.
Its just a example on yours and tuftys point that we have a moral responsibility to save everybody . Does that mean we should
wait until all countries should take responsibility or should we just save them ?
Picture the boat again , 100 people are drowning , you have to save them all , but you only have space for 20 . Do you save them all ?
do you take on 20 ? do you leave the rest 80 to drown ? do you tell them we have to wait for the next boat to save 20 ? while they are drowning ? How do you decide who to save ?
Unemployment rates have sucked in about every country over the last few years. The bit of money that we now have to spend on refugees will not make that much of a dent, as I explained earlier. It's true that for Sweden, the refugee crisis accounts for about 4 percent of expenses, which is admittedly problematic. But in the longer run it may well help our economies. You know this too, because you just explained it with the story about the 60's.
Yes we took them in when there was space for them . We dont have now . We have swedish people who dont have jobs now . adding people who dont speak swedish , dont have training , dont have homes wont solve the unemployment rate , it will only add to it .
Sure maybe one day we might need work force again , but its not right now .
The article I read was actually in a Dutch paper. Sure abuse gets reported, but not something minor like this, on the front page in a different country. It might have made a local paper at best.
Where do you live that child abuse / child pornography is minor ?
Edit: Forgot to address the smuggler. What exactly is your point here? Is that kid who drowned any less innocent because of his father being a smuggler (a profession which, again, ceases to exist the moment the EU amends its policies)? It's only right that his father's hustle is simply not as newsworthy as that picture
Yeah it was a example of how media (not all) is " Pro " refugee . They used this child as a example and used the father as a symbol for how humanit is failing . But infact there were 100s of kids washing up on the shore before this and nobody cared then . Its kinda like cecil the lion , Nobody gave a shit before a white dentist shot a lion with a name . and now when the story has died down nobody cares again . Or Kony 2012 .
Media used the kid and the father , and when it came out he was a trafficker most media didnt report on it