Corona Virus. What's going on where you live?

[IUTSM]

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I'm not seeing any epidemiologists or public health folks posting up here, so I wouldn't take what people are espousing as facts that downplay the virus as anything of value. It's all opinion. All I know is that I don't know, so when folks I know who work with dead bodies and in hospitals say this shit is a serious concern, I'll listen.

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good for you. but by your own metircs you're just contributing more noise

the "folks (you) know who work with dead bodies" probably don't work with a lot of healthy people in general so it's a bit of a skewed data source and purely anecdotal

you've always got a lot to say about this topic, how do you derive the opinions you present as fact? What do you do for a living? What's your education? What makes you more of an expert than medical professionals?

[Buck Russell]

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I'm not seeing any epidemiologists or public health folks posting up here, so I wouldn't take what people are espousing as facts that downplay the virus as anything of value. It's all opinion. All I know is that I don't know, so when folks I know who work with dead bodies and in hospitals say this shit is a serious concern, I'll listen.

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good for you. but by your own metircs you're just contributing more noise

the "folks (you) know who work with dead bodies" probably don't work with a lot of healthy people in general so it's a bit of a skewed data source and purely anecdotal

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you've always got a lot to say about this topic, how do you derive the opinions you present as fact? What do you do for a living? What's your education? What makes you more of an expert than medical professionals?

i read. and i have posted links consistently to back up the facts that i discuss:

New York Times article about cases coming into the Southwest from Mexico causing the "spikes" in AZ and CA:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/coronavirus-border-mexico-california-el-centro.html

article directly from Airzona dept of health about how they started reclassifying available beds on June 6th which compounds with opening to elective procedures and other non-covid caused stays:
https://directorsblog.health.azdhs.gov/new-method-for-determining-inpatient-and-icu-bed-availability-launched-today/

LA Times article about how testing increase is responsible for "surge"
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-13/california-coronavirus-surge-tied-to-testing-not-reopening-businesses-officials-say

Nate Silver dos a good job of reporting daily covid stats taht show that despite drastically increased testing and steady case counts, death continues to drop week over week proving the virus to be far-far less deadly than anyone ever thought:
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273013380777984000

Johns Hopkins chart for Texas showing a steady positive test result rate despite increase in testing:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/texas

and as i originally said months ago the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to look at the us chart:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

[IUTSM]

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I'm not seeing any epidemiologists or public health folks posting up here, so I wouldn't take what people are espousing as facts that downplay the virus as anything of value. It's all opinion. All I know is that I don't know, so when folks I know who work with dead bodies and in hospitals say this shit is a serious concern, I'll listen.

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good for you. but by your own metircs you're just contributing more noise

the "folks (you) know who work with dead bodies" probably don't work with a lot of healthy people in general so it's a bit of a skewed data source and purely anecdotal

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you've always got a lot to say about this topic, how do you derive the opinions you present as fact? What do you do for a living? What's your education? What makes you more of an expert than medical professionals?

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i read. and i have posted links consistently to back up the facts that i discuss:

New York Times article about cases coming into the Southwest from Mexico causing the "spikes" in AZ and CA:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/coronavirus-border-mexico-california-el-centro.html

article directly from Airzona dept of health about how they started reclassifying available beds on June 6th which compounds with opening to elective procedures and other non-covid caused stays:
https://directorsblog.health.azdhs.gov/new-method-for-determining-inpatient-and-icu-bed-availability-launched-today/

LA Times article about how testing increase is responsible for "surge"
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-13/california-coronavirus-surge-tied-to-testing-not-reopening-businesses-officials-say

Nate Silver dos a good job of reporting daily covid stats taht show that despite drastically increased testing and steady case counts, death continues to drop week over week proving the virus to be far-far less deadly than anyone ever thought:
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273013380777984000

Johns Hopkins chart for Texas showing a steady positive test result rate despite increase in testing:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/texas

and as i originally said months ago the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to look at the us chart:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

What i'm asking is from where you have earned the credibility to make a statement that "the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to"? Dr. Larry Brilliant, a very important and far sighted epidemiologist certainly doesn't think so
https://www.marinij.com/2020/06/06/marin-epidemiologist-larry-brilliant-virus-crisis-just-beginning/

there's a reason that the trump administration is making dumb fuck rally goers sign waivers to attend. there are reasons why GOP stronghold, North Carolina, sent him packing.

as of june 8th, the known cases of covid in the world were at least 7,003,851, with 402,867 known deaths. that's a 5.75% mortality rate. I'll preface by saying that in my opinion, that shit is nothing to scoff at.

As a follow up, I'm curious what you think are the motives for this being blown out of proportion across the world? Is there a world wide conspiracy to keep people masked and indoors? Is it to ruin the economy?

[Buck Russell]

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I'm not seeing any epidemiologists or public health folks posting up here, so I wouldn't take what people are espousing as facts that downplay the virus as anything of value. It's all opinion. All I know is that I don't know, so when folks I know who work with dead bodies and in hospitals say this shit is a serious concern, I'll listen.

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good for you. but by your own metircs you're just contributing more noise

the "folks (you) know who work with dead bodies" probably don't work with a lot of healthy people in general so it's a bit of a skewed data source and purely anecdotal

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you've always got a lot to say about this topic, how do you derive the opinions you present as fact? What do you do for a living? What's your education? What makes you more of an expert than medical professionals?

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i read. and i have posted links consistently to back up the facts that i discuss:

New York Times article about cases coming into the Southwest from Mexico causing the "spikes" in AZ and CA:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/coronavirus-border-mexico-california-el-centro.html

article directly from Airzona dept of health about how they started reclassifying available beds on June 6th which compounds with opening to elective procedures and other non-covid caused stays:
https://directorsblog.health.azdhs.gov/new-method-for-determining-inpatient-and-icu-bed-availability-launched-today/

LA Times article about how testing increase is responsible for "surge"
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-13/california-coronavirus-surge-tied-to-testing-not-reopening-businesses-officials-say

Nate Silver dos a good job of reporting daily covid stats taht show that despite drastically increased testing and steady case counts, death continues to drop week over week proving the virus to be far-far less deadly than anyone ever thought:
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273013380777984000

Johns Hopkins chart for Texas showing a steady positive test result rate despite increase in testing:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/texas

and as i originally said months ago the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to look at the us chart:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

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What i'm asking is from where you have earned the credibility to make a statement that "the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to"? Dr. Larry Brilliant, a very important and far sighted epidemiologist certainly doesn't think so
https://www.marinij.com/2020/06/06/marin-epidemiologist-larry-brilliant-virus-crisis-just-beginning/

there's a reason that the trump administration is making dumb fuck rally goers sign waivers to attend. there are reasons why GOP stronghold, North Carolina, sent him packing.

as of june 8th, the known cases of covid in the world were at least 7,003,851, with 402,867 known deaths. that's a 5.75% mortality rate. I'll preface by saying that in my opinion, that shit is nothing to scoff at.

As a follow up, I'm curious what you think are the motives for this being blown out of proportion across the world? Is there a world wide conspiracy to keep people masked and indoors? Is it to ruin the economy?

there's tons of evidence that coronaviruses are seasonal heres one: https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20200413/8year-study-shows-coronaviruses-have-sharp-seasonality

but you can google and find dozens more. that combined with any chart anywhere of current rate of infection (ie the hopkins overal us chart) shows the same

everything else you bring up is conjecture

[IUTSM]

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I'm not seeing any epidemiologists or public health folks posting up here, so I wouldn't take what people are espousing as facts that downplay the virus as anything of value. It's all opinion. All I know is that I don't know, so when folks I know who work with dead bodies and in hospitals say this shit is a serious concern, I'll listen.

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good for you. but by your own metircs you're just contributing more noise

the "folks (you) know who work with dead bodies" probably don't work with a lot of healthy people in general so it's a bit of a skewed data source and purely anecdotal

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you've always got a lot to say about this topic, how do you derive the opinions you present as fact? What do you do for a living? What's your education? What makes you more of an expert than medical professionals?

[close]

i read. and i have posted links consistently to back up the facts that i discuss:

New York Times article about cases coming into the Southwest from Mexico causing the "spikes" in AZ and CA:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/coronavirus-border-mexico-california-el-centro.html

article directly from Airzona dept of health about how they started reclassifying available beds on June 6th which compounds with opening to elective procedures and other non-covid caused stays:
https://directorsblog.health.azdhs.gov/new-method-for-determining-inpatient-and-icu-bed-availability-launched-today/

LA Times article about how testing increase is responsible for "surge"
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-13/california-coronavirus-surge-tied-to-testing-not-reopening-businesses-officials-say

Nate Silver dos a good job of reporting daily covid stats taht show that despite drastically increased testing and steady case counts, death continues to drop week over week proving the virus to be far-far less deadly than anyone ever thought:
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273013380777984000

Johns Hopkins chart for Texas showing a steady positive test result rate despite increase in testing:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/texas

and as i originally said months ago the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to look at the us chart:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

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What i'm asking is from where you have earned the credibility to make a statement that "the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to"? Dr. Larry Brilliant, a very important and far sighted epidemiologist certainly doesn't think so
https://www.marinij.com/2020/06/06/marin-epidemiologist-larry-brilliant-virus-crisis-just-beginning/

there's a reason that the trump administration is making dumb fuck rally goers sign waivers to attend. there are reasons why GOP stronghold, North Carolina, sent him packing.

as of june 8th, the known cases of covid in the world were at least 7,003,851, with 402,867 known deaths. that's a 5.75% mortality rate. I'll preface by saying that in my opinion, that shit is nothing to scoff at.

As a follow up, I'm curious what you think are the motives for this being blown out of proportion across the world? Is there a world wide conspiracy to keep people masked and indoors? Is it to ruin the economy?

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there's tons of evidence that coronaviruses are seasonal heres one: https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20200413/8year-study-shows-coronaviruses-have-sharp-seasonality

but you can google and find dozens more. that combined with any chart anywhere of current rate of infection (ie the hopkins overal us chart) shows the same

everything else you bring up is conjecture

did you even read the last link you posted? it ends with “Although these viruses are related virologically to the COVID-19 virus, they mainly cause mild diseases. It is impossible to say whether their sharp seasonality in any way will also be seen with the pandemic virus,” Monto concluded. “This adds to the many questions now being considered about how the current pandemic will evolve.”


 even the johns hopkins site says "This initiative relies upon publicly available data from multiple sources. States are not consistent in how and when they release and update their data, and some may even retroactively change the numbers they report. This can affect the percentages you see presented in these data visualizations. We are taking steps to account for these irregularities in how we present the information, but it is important to understand the full context behind these data."

Keep picking and choosing, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Like everyone else that's not an infectious disease specialist. 

[Buck Russell]

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I'm not seeing any epidemiologists or public health folks posting up here, so I wouldn't take what people are espousing as facts that downplay the virus as anything of value. It's all opinion. All I know is that I don't know, so when folks I know who work with dead bodies and in hospitals say this shit is a serious concern, I'll listen.

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good for you. but by your own metircs you're just contributing more noise

the "folks (you) know who work with dead bodies" probably don't work with a lot of healthy people in general so it's a bit of a skewed data source and purely anecdotal

[close]

you've always got a lot to say about this topic, how do you derive the opinions you present as fact? What do you do for a living? What's your education? What makes you more of an expert than medical professionals?

[close]

i read. and i have posted links consistently to back up the facts that i discuss:

New York Times article about cases coming into the Southwest from Mexico causing the "spikes" in AZ and CA:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/coronavirus-border-mexico-california-el-centro.html

article directly from Airzona dept of health about how they started reclassifying available beds on June 6th which compounds with opening to elective procedures and other non-covid caused stays:
https://directorsblog.health.azdhs.gov/new-method-for-determining-inpatient-and-icu-bed-availability-launched-today/

LA Times article about how testing increase is responsible for "surge"
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-13/california-coronavirus-surge-tied-to-testing-not-reopening-businesses-officials-say

Nate Silver dos a good job of reporting daily covid stats taht show that despite drastically increased testing and steady case counts, death continues to drop week over week proving the virus to be far-far less deadly than anyone ever thought:
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273013380777984000

Johns Hopkins chart for Texas showing a steady positive test result rate despite increase in testing:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/texas

and as i originally said months ago the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to look at the us chart:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

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What i'm asking is from where you have earned the credibility to make a statement that "the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to"? Dr. Larry Brilliant, a very important and far sighted epidemiologist certainly doesn't think so
https://www.marinij.com/2020/06/06/marin-epidemiologist-larry-brilliant-virus-crisis-just-beginning/

there's a reason that the trump administration is making dumb fuck rally goers sign waivers to attend. there are reasons why GOP stronghold, North Carolina, sent him packing.

as of june 8th, the known cases of covid in the world were at least 7,003,851, with 402,867 known deaths. that's a 5.75% mortality rate. I'll preface by saying that in my opinion, that shit is nothing to scoff at.

As a follow up, I'm curious what you think are the motives for this being blown out of proportion across the world? Is there a world wide conspiracy to keep people masked and indoors? Is it to ruin the economy?

[close]

there's tons of evidence that coronaviruses are seasonal heres one: https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20200413/8year-study-shows-coronaviruses-have-sharp-seasonality

but you can google and find dozens more. that combined with any chart anywhere of current rate of infection (ie the hopkins overal us chart) shows the same

everything else you bring up is conjecture

[close]

did you even read the last link you posted? it ends with “Although these viruses are related virologically to the COVID-19 virus, they mainly cause mild diseases. It is impossible to say whether their sharp seasonality in any way will also be seen with the pandemic virus,” Monto concluded. “This adds to the many questions now being considered about how the current pandemic will evolve.”


 even the johns hopkins site says "This initiative relies upon publicly available data from multiple sources. States are not consistent in how and when they release and update their data, and some may even retroactively change the numbers they report. This can affect the percentages you see presented in these data visualizations. We are taking steps to account for these irregularities in how we present the information, but it is important to understand the full context behind these data."

Keep picking and choosing, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Like everyone else that's not an infectious disease specialist.

ok so unless your'e an infctious disease specialist yourself, again, by your own metric, you're simply picking and choosing as well.

problem for you is that the burden of proof is on the side trying force change and instill fear

shit is as it was unless solidly proven otherwise

you can staye shook all you want but don't try to pretend you've got some high ground of authority here

[IUTSM]

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I'm not seeing any epidemiologists or public health folks posting up here, so I wouldn't take what people are espousing as facts that downplay the virus as anything of value. It's all opinion. All I know is that I don't know, so when folks I know who work with dead bodies and in hospitals say this shit is a serious concern, I'll listen.

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good for you. but by your own metircs you're just contributing more noise

the "folks (you) know who work with dead bodies" probably don't work with a lot of healthy people in general so it's a bit of a skewed data source and purely anecdotal

[close]

you've always got a lot to say about this topic, how do you derive the opinions you present as fact? What do you do for a living? What's your education? What makes you more of an expert than medical professionals?

[close]

i read. and i have posted links consistently to back up the facts that i discuss:

New York Times article about cases coming into the Southwest from Mexico causing the "spikes" in AZ and CA:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/coronavirus-border-mexico-california-el-centro.html

article directly from Airzona dept of health about how they started reclassifying available beds on June 6th which compounds with opening to elective procedures and other non-covid caused stays:
https://directorsblog.health.azdhs.gov/new-method-for-determining-inpatient-and-icu-bed-availability-launched-today/

LA Times article about how testing increase is responsible for "surge"
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-13/california-coronavirus-surge-tied-to-testing-not-reopening-businesses-officials-say

Nate Silver dos a good job of reporting daily covid stats taht show that despite drastically increased testing and steady case counts, death continues to drop week over week proving the virus to be far-far less deadly than anyone ever thought:
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1273013380777984000

Johns Hopkins chart for Texas showing a steady positive test result rate despite increase in testing:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/texas

and as i originally said months ago the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to look at the us chart:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states

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What i'm asking is from where you have earned the credibility to make a statement that "the overall virus is seaspnal and dying out in june as it always was going to"? Dr. Larry Brilliant, a very important and far sighted epidemiologist certainly doesn't think so
https://www.marinij.com/2020/06/06/marin-epidemiologist-larry-brilliant-virus-crisis-just-beginning/

there's a reason that the trump administration is making dumb fuck rally goers sign waivers to attend. there are reasons why GOP stronghold, North Carolina, sent him packing.

as of june 8th, the known cases of covid in the world were at least 7,003,851, with 402,867 known deaths. that's a 5.75% mortality rate. I'll preface by saying that in my opinion, that shit is nothing to scoff at.

As a follow up, I'm curious what you think are the motives for this being blown out of proportion across the world? Is there a world wide conspiracy to keep people masked and indoors? Is it to ruin the economy?

[close]

there's tons of evidence that coronaviruses are seasonal heres one: https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20200413/8year-study-shows-coronaviruses-have-sharp-seasonality

but you can google and find dozens more. that combined with any chart anywhere of current rate of infection (ie the hopkins overal us chart) shows the same

everything else you bring up is conjecture

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did you even read the last link you posted? it ends with “Although these viruses are related virologically to the COVID-19 virus, they mainly cause mild diseases. It is impossible to say whether their sharp seasonality in any way will also be seen with the pandemic virus,” Monto concluded. “This adds to the many questions now being considered about how the current pandemic will evolve.”


 even the johns hopkins site says "This initiative relies upon publicly available data from multiple sources. States are not consistent in how and when they release and update their data, and some may even retroactively change the numbers they report. This can affect the percentages you see presented in these data visualizations. We are taking steps to account for these irregularities in how we present the information, but it is important to understand the full context behind these data."

Keep picking and choosing, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Like everyone else that's not an infectious disease specialist.

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ok so unless your'e an infctious disease specialist yourself, again, by your own metric, you're simply picking and choosing as well.

problem for you is that the burden of proof is on the side trying force change and instill fear

shit is as it was unless solidly proven otherwise

you can staye shook all you want but don't try to pretend you've got some high ground of authority here

shit is as it was unless solidly proven otherwise? what does that even mean? the only people i draw insight from on this topic are folks who study this shit. you can't answer any questions i've asked about the source of your personal beliefs other than by saying that i'm wrong. I've said the whole time that I have no idea what's going on and that i'm taking cues from experts. That is something you aren't doing. There's a social piece to all of this, and that is that if people remain socially distant and wear masks, it might save some lives. How hard is that?

[NoComply180]

Didn’t read the thread, but am I the only one who thinks now the reasonable approach would be to tell old people and vulnerable populations to isolate and let the rest of the population resume life as normal? It’s pretty clear who this kills 98% of the time

[Buck Russell]

Didn’t read the thread, but am I the only one who thinks now the reasonable approach would be to tell old people and vulnerable populations to isolate and let the rest of the population resume life as normal? It’s pretty clear who this kills 98% of the time

yes

holding the healthy majority of the society to the limitations of its weakest members is the most ludicrous concept imaginable

[NoComply180]

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Didn’t read the thread, but am I the only one who thinks now the reasonable approach would be to tell old people and vulnerable populations to isolate and let the rest of the population resume life as normal? It’s pretty clear who this kills 98% of the time

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yes

holding the healthy majority of the society to the limitations of its weakest members is the most ludicrous concept imaginable

i understood why when it first struck, but by now we have so much data (or at least it seems that we do) indicating who is really at risk from this.

[JANUS]

Frankly, I think we all should have been given hazmat suits and told to go about our business as usual, with the exception of performing a thorough decontamination before exiting the suit. Or bubbles. Like some big hamster balls. Whatever. It would be great!

[Seventyfrigginseven]

Frankly, I think we all should have been given hazmat suits and told to go about our business as usual, with the exception of performing a thorough decontamination before exiting the suit. Or bubbles. Like some big hamster balls. Whatever. It would be great!

 

[Alan]

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Didn’t read the thread, but am I the only one who thinks now the reasonable approach would be to tell old people and vulnerable populations to isolate and let the rest of the population resume life as normal? It’s pretty clear who this kills 98% of the time

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yes

holding the healthy majority of the society to the limitations of its weakest members is the most ludicrous concept imaginable

I think it's good that we care for the old and vulnerable. I don't understand the mindset that writes off huge chunks of the population just because it inconveniences some people. Also, the virus can fuck you up even if you're young and healthy, and I don't want people to have permanently decreased lung capacity or weakened immune system.

The problem is that we are forcing some groups, usually the poor, to risk their lives by working jobs that expose them to the virus.

[IUTSM]

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Didn’t read the thread, but am I the only one who thinks now the reasonable approach would be to tell old people and vulnerable populations to isolate and let the rest of the population resume life as normal? It’s pretty clear who this kills 98% of the time

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yes

holding the healthy majority of the society to the limitations of its weakest members is the most ludicrous concept imaginable

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I think it's good that we care for the old and vulnerable. I don't understand the mindset that writes off huge chunks of the population just because it inconveniences some people. Also, the virus can fuck you up even if you're young and healthy, and I don't want people to have permanently decreased lung capacity or weakened immune system.

The problem is that we are forcing some groups, usually the poor, to risk their lives by working jobs that expose them to the virus.

Well said. I'd gnar you if i could

[Buck Russell]

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Didn’t read the thread, but am I the only one who thinks now the reasonable approach would be to tell old people and vulnerable populations to isolate and let the rest of the population resume life as normal? It’s pretty clear who this kills 98% of the time

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yes

holding the healthy majority of the society to the limitations of its weakest members is the most ludicrous concept imaginable

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I think it's good that we care for the old and vulnerable. I don't understand the mindset that writes off huge chunks of the population just because it inconveniences some people. Also, the virus can fuck you up even if you're young and healthy, and I don't want people to have permanently decreased lung capacity or weakened immune system.

The problem is that we are forcing some groups, usually the poor, to risk their lives by working jobs that expose them to the virus.

totally agree. protect the old and vulnerable and let everyone heathly go out and thrive.

[Joe Pesci]

I live in Dallas, which has already been opened for the most part and I don't research it a lot but I've read that we are one of the places with the most new cases, or at least Texas is. My roommate started working again at a restaurant that he tells me is busy as fuck all the time and no one wears masks or gives a shit including him. They've already said there have been 3 employees who got the disease and have to stay home. He also goes to bars and shit after he gets off work. On top of that I also have another friend who came back from California to visit and he basically acts the same way, has a who cares attitude and keeps going out and shit and keeps trying to pressure me to go.

At this point I've pretty much accepted that I don't have a way to not get it because no matter how much I stay home and avoid doing shit, I live with someone who doesn't care about getting himself or anyone else sick. Even though on paper, although it's unpredictable how the disease will affect each person, he's overweight, eats like shit and smokes cigarettes, vapes and drinks pretty much every day so he would definitely get hit hard as fuck.

We also worked with a girl who got it, and another girl whose friend died at 27 from corona... So it's not like it's distant... Basically just a complaining post

[KoRnholio8]

Slovenia has been "corona free" for almost a month now, but we are seeing an increase due to cases coming in from the Balkans (migrant workers) and a mandatory quarantine has been reinstated for these few countries. A second wave is only one mistake away.

[Alan]

totally agree. protect the old and vulnerable and let everyone heathly go out and thrive.

Yeah, you protect the old and vulnerable by extending the lockdown/isolation until there's a vaccine. And providing adequate protection and pay for workers who are most likely to get the virus. Glad we're on the same page.

[JANUS]

And to think, all it took was a bottomless bucket of miniature waffles to get us all on the same page.

[Peter Zagreus]

I live in Dallas, which has already been opened for the most part and I don't research it a lot but I've read that we are one of the places with the most new cases, or at least Texas is. My roommate started working again at a restaurant that he tells me is busy as fuck all the time and no one wears masks or gives a shit including him. They've already said there have been 3 employees who got the disease and have to stay home. He also goes to bars and shit after he gets off work. On top of that I also have another friend who came back from California to visit and he basically acts the same way, has a who cares attitude and keeps going out and shit and keeps trying to pressure me to go.

At this point I've pretty much accepted that I don't have a way to not get it because no matter how much I stay home and avoid doing shit, I live with someone who doesn't care about getting himself or anyone else sick. Even though on paper, although it's unpredictable how the disease will affect each person, he's overweight, eats like shit and smokes cigarettes, vapes and drinks pretty much every day so he would definitely get hit hard as fuck.

We also worked with a girl who got it, and another girl whose friend died at 27 from corona... So it's not like it's distant... Basically just a complaining post

Thanks for the perspective, Pesci. I live in Dallas, too, and don't know anybody who has suffered/died from Corona at this point, though, who knows, I might be an asymptomatic carrier as I type this out. What you say about the lack of local concern is really true in my experience. People have been itching to ditch the masks and get back in the restaurants and shit from the beginning, and now everywhere I look people have just thrown caution to the wind. It's just gonna get worse here unless they tighten the restrictions again, which won't happen til it has to (maybe if kids start dying or something).

Texas is planning to send kids back to school in the fall with no restrictions on their conduct. I can't think of a more intense vector of transmission than an elementary school. I'm thinking this could get pretty ugly.

[Buck Russell]

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I live in Dallas, which has already been opened for the most part and I don't research it a lot but I've read that we are one of the places with the most new cases, or at least Texas is. My roommate started working again at a restaurant that he tells me is busy as fuck all the time and no one wears masks or gives a shit including him. They've already said there have been 3 employees who got the disease and have to stay home. He also goes to bars and shit after he gets off work. On top of that I also have another friend who came back from California to visit and he basically acts the same way, has a who cares attitude and keeps going out and shit and keeps trying to pressure me to go.

At this point I've pretty much accepted that I don't have a way to not get it because no matter how much I stay home and avoid doing shit, I live with someone who doesn't care about getting himself or anyone else sick. Even though on paper, although it's unpredictable how the disease will affect each person, he's overweight, eats like shit and smokes cigarettes, vapes and drinks pretty much every day so he would definitely get hit hard as fuck.

We also worked with a girl who got it, and another girl whose friend died at 27 from corona... So it's not like it's distant... Basically just a complaining post

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Thanks for the perspective, Pesci. I live in Dallas, too, and don't know anybody who has suffered/died from Corona at this point, though, who knows, I might be an asymptomatic carrier as I type this out. What you say about the lack of local concern is really true in my experience. People have been itching to ditch the masks and get back in the restaurants and shit from the beginning, and now everywhere I look people have just thrown caution to the wind. It's just gonna get worse here unless they tighten the restrictions again, which won't happen til it has to (maybe if kids start dying or something).

Texas is planning to send kids back to school in the fall with no restrictions on their conduct. I can't think of a more intense vector of transmission than an elementary school. I'm thinking this could get pretty ugly.

well, for starters: a nursing home

cv in and from kids is essentially a nonexistent problem

[Peter Zagreus]

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I live in Dallas, which has already been opened for the most part and I don't research it a lot but I've read that we are one of the places with the most new cases, or at least Texas is. My roommate started working again at a restaurant that he tells me is busy as fuck all the time and no one wears masks or gives a shit including him. They've already said there have been 3 employees who got the disease and have to stay home. He also goes to bars and shit after he gets off work. On top of that I also have another friend who came back from California to visit and he basically acts the same way, has a who cares attitude and keeps going out and shit and keeps trying to pressure me to go.

At this point I've pretty much accepted that I don't have a way to not get it because no matter how much I stay home and avoid doing shit, I live with someone who doesn't care about getting himself or anyone else sick. Even though on paper, although it's unpredictable how the disease will affect each person, he's overweight, eats like shit and smokes cigarettes, vapes and drinks pretty much every day so he would definitely get hit hard as fuck.

We also worked with a girl who got it, and another girl whose friend died at 27 from corona... So it's not like it's distant... Basically just a complaining post

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Thanks for the perspective, Pesci. I live in Dallas, too, and don't know anybody who has suffered/died from Corona at this point, though, who knows, I might be an asymptomatic carrier as I type this out. What you say about the lack of local concern is really true in my experience. People have been itching to ditch the masks and get back in the restaurants and shit from the beginning, and now everywhere I look people have just thrown caution to the wind. It's just gonna get worse here unless they tighten the restrictions again, which won't happen til it has to (maybe if kids start dying or something).

Texas is planning to send kids back to school in the fall with no restrictions on their conduct. I can't think of a more intense vector of transmission than an elementary school. I'm thinking this could get pretty ugly.

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well, for starters: a nursing home

cv in and from kids is essentially a nonexistent problem

Maybe I'm taking the bait here, but (here goes) what the fuck does that mean? The virus doesn't spread through kids?

[Buck Russell]

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I live in Dallas, which has already been opened for the most part and I don't research it a lot but I've read that we are one of the places with the most new cases, or at least Texas is. My roommate started working again at a restaurant that he tells me is busy as fuck all the time and no one wears masks or gives a shit including him. They've already said there have been 3 employees who got the disease and have to stay home. He also goes to bars and shit after he gets off work. On top of that I also have another friend who came back from California to visit and he basically acts the same way, has a who cares attitude and keeps going out and shit and keeps trying to pressure me to go.

At this point I've pretty much accepted that I don't have a way to not get it because no matter how much I stay home and avoid doing shit, I live with someone who doesn't care about getting himself or anyone else sick. Even though on paper, although it's unpredictable how the disease will affect each person, he's overweight, eats like shit and smokes cigarettes, vapes and drinks pretty much every day so he would definitely get hit hard as fuck.

We also worked with a girl who got it, and another girl whose friend died at 27 from corona... So it's not like it's distant... Basically just a complaining post

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Thanks for the perspective, Pesci. I live in Dallas, too, and don't know anybody who has suffered/died from Corona at this point, though, who knows, I might be an asymptomatic carrier as I type this out. What you say about the lack of local concern is really true in my experience. People have been itching to ditch the masks and get back in the restaurants and shit from the beginning, and now everywhere I look people have just thrown caution to the wind. It's just gonna get worse here unless they tighten the restrictions again, which won't happen til it has to (maybe if kids start dying or something).

Texas is planning to send kids back to school in the fall with no restrictions on their conduct. I can't think of a more intense vector of transmission than an elementary school. I'm thinking this could get pretty ugly.

[close]

well, for starters: a nursing home

cv in and from kids is essentially a nonexistent problem

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Maybe I'm taking the bait here, but (here goes) what the fuck does that mean? The virus doesn't spread through kids?

correct

[Peter Zagreus]

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I live in Dallas, which has already been opened for the most part and I don't research it a lot but I've read that we are one of the places with the most new cases, or at least Texas is. My roommate started working again at a restaurant that he tells me is busy as fuck all the time and no one wears masks or gives a shit including him. They've already said there have been 3 employees who got the disease and have to stay home. He also goes to bars and shit after he gets off work. On top of that I also have another friend who came back from California to visit and he basically acts the same way, has a who cares attitude and keeps going out and shit and keeps trying to pressure me to go.

At this point I've pretty much accepted that I don't have a way to not get it because no matter how much I stay home and avoid doing shit, I live with someone who doesn't care about getting himself or anyone else sick. Even though on paper, although it's unpredictable how the disease will affect each person, he's overweight, eats like shit and smokes cigarettes, vapes and drinks pretty much every day so he would definitely get hit hard as fuck.

We also worked with a girl who got it, and another girl whose friend died at 27 from corona... So it's not like it's distant... Basically just a complaining post

[close]

Thanks for the perspective, Pesci. I live in Dallas, too, and don't know anybody who has suffered/died from Corona at this point, though, who knows, I might be an asymptomatic carrier as I type this out. What you say about the lack of local concern is really true in my experience. People have been itching to ditch the masks and get back in the restaurants and shit from the beginning, and now everywhere I look people have just thrown caution to the wind. It's just gonna get worse here unless they tighten the restrictions again, which won't happen til it has to (maybe if kids start dying or something).

Texas is planning to send kids back to school in the fall with no restrictions on their conduct. I can't think of a more intense vector of transmission than an elementary school. I'm thinking this could get pretty ugly.

[close]

well, for starters: a nursing home

cv in and from kids is essentially a nonexistent problem

[close]

Maybe I'm taking the bait here, but (here goes) what the fuck does that mean? The virus doesn't spread through kids?

[close]

correct

Post a link, bitch.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/18/how-likely-are-kids-to-get-covid-19-scientists-see-a-huge-puzzle-without-easy-answers/

[Buck Russell]

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I live in Dallas, which has already been opened for the most part and I don't research it a lot but I've read that we are one of the places with the most new cases, or at least Texas is. My roommate started working again at a restaurant that he tells me is busy as fuck all the time and no one wears masks or gives a shit including him. They've already said there have been 3 employees who got the disease and have to stay home. He also goes to bars and shit after he gets off work. On top of that I also have another friend who came back from California to visit and he basically acts the same way, has a who cares attitude and keeps going out and shit and keeps trying to pressure me to go.

At this point I've pretty much accepted that I don't have a way to not get it because no matter how much I stay home and avoid doing shit, I live with someone who doesn't care about getting himself or anyone else sick. Even though on paper, although it's unpredictable how the disease will affect each person, he's overweight, eats like shit and smokes cigarettes, vapes and drinks pretty much every day so he would definitely get hit hard as fuck.

We also worked with a girl who got it, and another girl whose friend died at 27 from corona... So it's not like it's distant... Basically just a complaining post

[close]

Thanks for the perspective, Pesci. I live in Dallas, too, and don't know anybody who has suffered/died from Corona at this point, though, who knows, I might be an asymptomatic carrier as I type this out. What you say about the lack of local concern is really true in my experience. People have been itching to ditch the masks and get back in the restaurants and shit from the beginning, and now everywhere I look people have just thrown caution to the wind. It's just gonna get worse here unless they tighten the restrictions again, which won't happen til it has to (maybe if kids start dying or something).

Texas is planning to send kids back to school in the fall with no restrictions on their conduct. I can't think of a more intense vector of transmission than an elementary school. I'm thinking this could get pretty ugly.

[close]

well, for starters: a nursing home

cv in and from kids is essentially a nonexistent problem

[close]

Maybe I'm taking the bait here, but (here goes) what the fuck does that mean? The virus doesn't spread through kids?

[close]

correct

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Post a link, bitch.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/18/how-likely-are-kids-to-get-covid-19-scientists-see-a-huge-puzzle-without-easy-answers/

yeah that article says it right there. they say it's a puzzle because they have the answer but it's not the one that they want (ie: it's not scary)

thanks for the help!

[johnes]

My dad got tested yesterday, waiting for results. He has the symptoms. I think if I heard my mom correctly, 2 people at my dads work got it too; so there’s def a chance he has it for real this time and my mom could get it.

[Buck Russell]

just stumbled on a fun piece of data that helps explains continued cases in ca and likely Arizona as well:



you can verify here if you like: https://update.covid19.ca.gov/

cases look to be coming in from Mexico which.. fine good we have better resources to help in America but its impossible to decrease cases when you're importing positives/ this is not an increase of transmission this is stocking the pond

and despite all of that California has kept their positivity under 5% steadily for over a month

which means its dropping still in the general population

and there's always false positives so the results will never come in at zero

always know there's more to the numbers every time

[Enrico Pallazzo]

just stumbled on a fun piece of data that helps explains continued cases in ca and likely Arizona as well:



you can verify here if you like: https://update.covid19.ca.gov/

cases are confirmed coming in from Mexico which.. fine good we have better resources to help in America but its impossible to decrease cases when you're importing positives/ this is not an increase of transmission this is stocking the pond

always know there's more to the numbers every time

Or does that graphic highlight the fact that Imperial County and portions of Arizona are largely latinx and that Latinx workers have been unduly subjected to the virus as a result of being frontline or essential workers, and maybe not some conspiracy to actively transport in the virus from over the border or whatever you think is going on.

You’re a blight on the good name of SLAP posters with novelty movie character usernames everywhere.

[Buck Russell]

Or does that graphic highlight the fact that Imperial County and portions of Arizona are largely latinx and that Latinx workers have been unduly subjected to the virus as a result of being frontline or essential workers

fair counterpoint.

deductions for using "latinx" though clear indicator of intent

and also unfortunate a quick google will return a lot of results like this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-border/california-border-hospitals-hit-by-surge-in-covid-19-cases-from-mexico-idUSKBN22V365

what else ya got?

[IUTSM]

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Or does that graphic highlight the fact that Imperial County and portions of Arizona are largely latinx and that Latinx workers have been unduly subjected to the virus as a result of being frontline or essential workers

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fair counterpoint.

deductions for using "latinx" though clear indicator of intent

and also unfortunate a quick google will return a lot of results like this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-border/california-border-hospitals-hit-by-surge-in-covid-19-cases-from-mexico-idUSKBN22V365

what else ya got?

you really are a flaming piece of shit, huh?