if you're looking for something amazing that will be a quick two day read, go pick up the absolutely true diary of a part time indian. it's great.
i'm interested in reading this. Alexie is one of the great recent poets.
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I know you'll probably catch flak for not finishing On The Road, but I'll give you my support. I couldn't finish Dharma Bums. I'm not to into Western Buddhists, so it really wasn't my thing. ? ? ? ?
It really just bored the shit out of me. Seems like he was trying to convince himself that his story was worth telling. Maybe it was just his "spontaneous" style of writing. Like one long facebook post for lack of a better description.
I understand that the Beat era writers did a lot for defying traditional American values and battling censorship, but I think a lot of the books are pretty overrated.
the beats are interesting. so many come up thinking that their works, especially in poetics, are liberating through defying or redefining ideas of form and i suppose cultural acceptance. kerouac and ginsberg attended columbia. Olson attended Wesleyan. ? they emulated the form and ideas of the modernist era as exemplified by EzPound, Eliot, and really as she is being studied more, Mina Loy. Modernists were concerned with with redefining the world through eyes that had been subjected to the flash of WWI and the psychological upheaval presented by Freud and Nietzsche. Bring into the scope educated Harlem writers like Hughes with the Bukka White blues train back beat or McKay with Jamaican patois developing poetry in response to the lynchings, popular Jazz, blues recordings, shit, Birth of a Nation was the most popular film in the US until 1930 or so, and you've got something that has never before been attempted in the literary world- call it cohesion through reconstruction of the world. Shelley said "poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world."
so following this modernity the Beats were just a natural response to the modernist era- look at the world, the US in particular during the early post modern era as a recent creation built of rubble. 25 monarchies had been overthrown during WWI, there's no way stability can come about, anywhere, in 40 year time frame. So of course the ideas of "Western Buddhism" are attractive- with the world a disastrous place, living through nothingness is the grand scheme. ? Nothingness, however, cannot be achieved without the right knowledge- understanding the rudiments of form, literature, history, and culture.
So to say that many of their books are overrated, you're probably right but should try to wrap around the idea that Beat works aren't weren't written for everybody. The idea of a rating of a piece of work comes about when a writer isn't trying to gain a particular audience and it is read as though it should be something... It's like attempting to define "nothingness."
Anyhow, if you're interested, Charles Olson wrote poetry and coined the term "Beats." there are some interesting collections of letters too.
Sounds interesting, will definitely check out Charles Olson. ?
The first time I read On the Road, I had to force myself to complete it because I felt it had no real plot arc. ? I read it again later, this time within the period of a week, and found it a much better experience. ? Almost as if the excitement in the book lay not so much in the words written but in the process of writing and, in a sense, 'living' it. ?
I really liked Ginsberg's 'Howl', and think it is an important landmark in American literature. ? For anyone that feels a little bored with On the Road, check this out first:
http://www.wussu.com/poems/agh.htm
And not to merge this with the photo thread, but I feel like the best things to come out of the Beat movement was Robert Frank's photobook 'The Americans':
If you have any interest at all in art photography, check it out. ? Robert Frank singlehandedly changed the course of the medium forever with this book.
currently reading:
not as great as I thought it would be
The lack of a "plot arc" in OTR might be what makes it such an attractive read for many, it's wanderlust in print.
Howl is a milestone- a post modern answer to THE WASTELAND. Aside from that, it's a fun read.
want to add--- i've read the Grad School thread- if anyone is really interested in Beat philosophy, writing, art and possibly looking to pursue an MFA in writing, The Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poets at Naropa University in Boulder, is the place to do it. Naropa was founded by Tibetan Buddhist guru Chogyam Trungpa and the school of poetics Ginsberg, Cage, and Waldman, and di Prima. A very close friend of mine is working on his MFA in poetics- i'm very excited to head out there, soon. check it out!