Most hilarious career ender

[somethingmustbreaknow]

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[Troubadour26]

Did we really leave out J-Lay?

[Shtonk]

Did we really leave out J-Lay?

Was he still on top when those selfies came out? Pretty great nevertheless

[work_lurker]

It's not hard to imagine that Greco was/is a homophobe. Reynolds? Could be. Back then, pretty much anyone was including Muska and Rowley if you wanna go by their 90s itvs in Big Brother. But it's apparently too much to ask of our scene to make pro skaters accountable for homophobia, even when it amounts to hate crimes and murder...

Have there been any/many queer skaters on Baker? Only one that comes to mind is Elissa.

I'm 99% positive that Elissa is not gay, and 99% positive that Greco could be gay.

[Shtonk]

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It's not hard to imagine that Greco was/is a homophobe. Reynolds? Could be. Back then, pretty much anyone was including Muska and Rowley if you wanna go by their 90s itvs in Big Brother. But it's apparently too much to ask of our scene to make pro skaters accountable for homophobia, even when it amounts to hate crimes and murder...

Have there been any/many queer skaters on Baker? Only one that comes to mind is Elissa.

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I'm 99% positive that Elissa is not gay, and 99% positive that Greco could be gay.

Cool joke but Elissa's partner has forever been Rachel Garcia, who's driving the car and points a snapshot at the lens in her Baker part.

[work_lurker]

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Ryan Fabry will always be the patron saint of career enders.

Seaholm trophy chuck is pretty funny and at least no one was cucked or killed (aside from his career).

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Love to know where he is now. I get it that he was a “sore loser, poor sport” etc aside from this but it’s pretty funny in hindsight. Like I love contests actually but trying to one up someone else and score better is some sport jock type shit. At least he had a smile on his face while doing it, I think it’s funny that everyone took it so serious and that he was black balled for it. With all the shit that’s gone on and people kept their relevance, all it took was that? I have heard he’s cried at his placings before and I’m not trying to fend for him cause I don’t really care. Also what’s up with dude in the back grabbing that kid?

I met this really hot rollerblader girl named Coco at the indoor Vans park in Orange maybe like 8 or 9 years ago? I got her instagram at that time, and kept up with what she was doing via the gram. I guess she was like one of the top female rollerbladers in the world, she did have a real cool style I have to admit.

Anyways, it was maybe a few months later she started dating Austin Seaholm. They were what appeared to be a power couple for a quick minute, or maybe a few years, but ended up having a pretty bad breakup. I'm pretty sure she started posting about how he gave her genital herpes, and was abusive to her, just all around "bad-guy" vibes. It's been so long now I don't recall exact details, but remember just a bunch of STD awareness and acceptance posts from her after their breakup. I enjoyed watching Austin Seaholm at the Dew Tours and shit doing his twirly blord slides, but post-Coco I haven't liked the guy.

[Blind Fisherman]

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It's not hard to imagine that Greco was/is a homophobe. Reynolds? Could be. Back then, pretty much anyone was including Muska and Rowley if you wanna go by their 90s itvs in Big Brother. But it's apparently too much to ask of our scene to make pro skaters accountable for homophobia, even when it amounts to hate crimes and murder...

Have there been any/many queer skaters on Baker? Only one that comes to mind is Elissa.

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I'm 99% positive that Elissa is not gay, and 99% positive that Greco could be gay.

I don't like to make assumptions, but I'm pretty sure the woman helping her run Gnarhunters is her partner.

[dr.prestige]

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Didn't Andy Roy get caught stealing boards from Anti Hero?

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Not really. He was ultimately kicked off after TNT filed a libel lawsuit for instagram and slap posts. More ironic than hilarious.

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Uhhh what? Pretty common knowledge he got the boot from DLX because he got caught stealing product when they employed him, years before instagram existed

Yeah that was the case, I believe Julien confirmed it himself. I bought a pin and a set of wheels from him at Potrero when I was a teenager, I didn't know at the time it was stolen. I wish I still knew where that pin was. Also, I'm pretty sure Instagram existed at the time, it was certainly in its infancy though.

[dr.prestige]

From the April 2006 issue of Skateboarder

1. lame hypermasculinity present in not only skating but society at large at the time. I'll never hate on someone crying, let it all out player
2. with the way he was heading Gator would've kooked himself out of the industry eventually regardless
3. too bad Christian got tied up with drugs, imagine where he'd be if that never happened
4. lol
5. wonder who this one is. would still be one hell of a mistake all these years later
6. wasn't this a sketch in a Girl video with Lance Mountain? idk what this is all about, Lance is still the shit, also even if it was real who cares what hobbies people have outside of skating, we literally play with, bitch and moan about, and practically dedicate our lives to this useless wooden toy, why should we judge someone for being into pogo sticks or kendamas or even fucking rollerblades
7. lol Bill Weiss has his own company, doesn't sound like any harm was really done
8. James Kelch wasn't the only EMB loc to be smoking crack, he was just the most publicized... cough cough Mike Carroll cough cough
9. ouch
10. Unfortunately this one is alive and well throughout the skate industry in 2024 with no plans of slowing down

[TelethonJohn]

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From the April 2006 issue of Skateboarder

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1. lame hypermasculinity present in not only skating but society at large at the time. I'll never hate on someone crying, let it all out player
2. with the way he was heading Gator would've kooked himself out of the industry eventually regardless
3. too bad Christian got tied up with drugs, imagine where he'd be if that never happened
4. lol
5. wonder who this one is. would still be one hell of a mistake all these years later
6. wasn't this a sketch in a Girl video with Lance Mountain? idk what this is all about, Lance is still the shit, also even if it was real who cares what hobbies people have outside of skating, we literally play with, bitch and moan about, and practically dedicate our lives to this useless wooden toy, why should we judge someone for being into pogo sticks or kendamas or even fucking rollerblades
7. lol Bill Weiss has his own company, doesn't sound like any harm was really done
8. James Kelch wasn't the only EMB loc to be smoking crack, he was just the most publicized... cough cough Mike Carroll cough cough
9. ouch
10. Unfortunately this one is alive and well throughout the skate industry in 2024 with no plans of slowing down

I think 5 is a hypothetical, but 9 is not. Technically, these both apply to the same person, although whatever fight may have gone down was probably one sided.

[Lou Strux]

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From the April 2006 issue of Skateboarder

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1. lame hypermasculinity present in not only skating but society at large at the time. I'll never hate on someone crying, let it all out player
2. with the way he was heading Gator would've kooked himself out of the industry eventually regardless
3. too bad Christian got tied up with drugs, imagine where he'd be if that never happened
4. lol
5. wonder who this one is. would still be one hell of a mistake all these years later
6. wasn't this a sketch in a Girl video with Lance Mountain? idk what this is all about, Lance is still the shit, also even if it was real who cares what hobbies people have outside of skating, we literally play with, bitch and moan about, and practically dedicate our lives to this useless wooden toy, why should we judge someone for being into pogo sticks or kendamas or even fucking rollerblades
7. lol Bill Weiss has his own company, doesn't sound like any harm was really done
8. James Kelch wasn't the only EMB loc to be smoking crack, he was just the most publicized... cough cough Mike Carroll cough cough
9. ouch
10. Unfortunately this one is alive and well throughout the skate industry in 2024 with no plans of slowing down

Number 6 is likely a reference to Andy Mac who was at one point was pushing turbo powered "extreme" pogo-sticks to the X-Games youth crowd.

[Shtonk]

So who was 9 then?

[Jim and Dan]

So who was 9 then?

Ryan Fabry

[Donkey Lips]

Fabry was also 5.

[Star Whores Episode I: The Fellatio Menace]

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Didn't Andy Roy get caught stealing boards from Anti Hero?

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Not really. He was ultimately kicked off after TNT filed a libel lawsuit for instagram and slap posts. More ironic than hilarious.

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Uhhh what? Pretty common knowledge he got the boot from DLX because he got caught stealing product when they employed him, years before instagram existed

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Yeah that was the case, I believe Julien confirmed it himself. I bought a pin and a set of wheels from him at Potrero when I was a teenager, I didn't know at the time it was stolen. I wish I still knew where that pin was. Also, I'm pretty sure Instagram existed at the time, it was certainly in its infancy though.

They talk about it in Andy's Epicly Later'd. For a while, Andy was still riding for Anti-Hero, but they would take his pro board away because he would get caught stealing from the DLXSF warehouse when he worked there. I think eventually, they just fully let him go after he couldn't stop.

[Shtonk]

Ok so a dude called Ryan Fabry banged Sheffey's wife and tried to fight him over it? Kinda G in its insanity.

[quaintly]

Ok so a dude called Ryan Fabry banned Sheffey's wife and tried to fight him over it? Kinda G in its insanity.

That’s not how the story goes .

[Shtonk]

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Ok so a dude called Ryan Fabry banned Sheffey's wife and tried to fight him over it? Kinda G in its insanity.

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That’s not how the story goes .

Yeah my autocorrect swapped a g with an n, excuse

[Lou Strux]

Ain’t NObody TRYing to fight Sheff, tho; you might try to GET OUT of a fight w/ Sheffey, but chances are all you’re gonna get is a serious beat down.

[Oroborus]

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From the April 2006 issue of Skateboarder

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1. lame hypermasculinity present in not only skating but society at large at the time. I'll never hate on someone crying, let it all out player
2. with the way he was heading Gator would've kooked himself out of the industry eventually regardless
3. too bad Christian got tied up with drugs, imagine where he'd be if that never happened
4. lol
5. wonder who this one is. would still be one hell of a mistake all these years later
6. wasn't this a sketch in a Girl video with Lance Mountain? idk what this is all about, Lance is still the shit, also even if it was real who cares what hobbies people have outside of skating, we literally play with, bitch and moan about, and practically dedicate our lives to this useless wooden toy, why should we judge someone for being into pogo sticks or kendamas or even fucking rollerblades
7. lol Bill Weiss has his own company, doesn't sound like any harm was really done
8. James Kelch wasn't the only EMB loc to be smoking crack, he was just the most publicized... cough cough Mike Carroll cough cough
9. ouch
10. Unfortunately this one is alive and well throughout the skate industry in 2024 with no plans of slowing down

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I think 5 is a hypothetical, but 9 is not. Technically, these both apply to the same person, although whatever fight may have gone down was probably one sided.

I think 5 is lame but reasonable especially when you're young..... most beefs that end up in sketchy fights/sleeping with buddies wife are pretty foul and inexcusable....

However in unknown circumstances 9 could be excused had he not known,  Sheffy should've looked at his wife because it takes two to tango.....

[DCLOVE]

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It's not hard to imagine that Greco was/is a homophobe. Reynolds? Could be. Back then, pretty much anyone was including Muska and Rowley if you wanna go by their 90s itvs in Big Brother. But it's apparently too much to ask of our scene to make pro skaters accountable for homophobia, even when it amounts to hate crimes and murder...

Have there been any/many queer skaters on Baker? Only one that comes to mind is Elissa.

[close]

I'm 99% positive that Elissa is not gay, and 99% positive that Greco could be gay.

[close]

Cool joke but Elissa's partner has forever been Rachel Garcia, who's driving the car and points a snapshot at the lens in her Baker part.

You know that and the 25 years of interviews and videos in which pros talk about how people were weird to her on tour cause she’s a woman and the team would just laugh at the socially awkward skaters trying to hit on a gay woman .

[Lowcalcium]

Not a career ender by any means, but Muska definitely got kicked off of Toy Machine for some drunk shenanigans.

At the "Welcome to Hell" premiere he got too drunk on Goldschlager and called Templeton essentially a bitch because the video wasn't going to premiere due to some technical issues. I still think this is one of the funniest reasons to ever get kicked off of a brand.

Again, not even remotely a career ender because Muska went on to actually become the Muska with the creation of Shorty's...and in time we get the Chadilliac.

[Aquatic Dinosaur]

Not a career ender by any means, but Muska definitely got kicked off of Toy Machine for some drunk shenanigans.

At the "Welcome to Hell" premiere he got too drunk on Goldschlager and called Templeton essentially a bitch because the video wasn't going to premiere due to some technical issues. I still think this is one of the funniest reasons to ever get kicked off of a brand.

Again, not even remotely a career ender because Muska went on to actually become the Muska with the creation of Shorty's...and in time we get the Chadilliac.

I thought him wanting last part in WTH was what caused the whole thing

[Shtonk]

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Ok so a dude called Ryan Fabry banned Sheffey's wife and tried to fight him over it? Kinda G in its insanity.

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That’s not how the story goes .

Ended up googling him and read his Chromeball. Seems like that's pretty much exactly how the story goes.

[blurst_of_times]

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Not a career ender by any means, but Muska definitely got kicked off of Toy Machine for some drunk shenanigans.

At the "Welcome to Hell" premiere he got too drunk on Goldschlager and called Templeton essentially a bitch because the video wasn't going to premiere due to some technical issues. I still think this is one of the funniest reasons to ever get kicked off of a brand.

Again, not even remotely a career ender because Muska went on to actually become the Muska with the creation of Shorty's...and in time we get the Chadilliac.

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I thought him wanting last part in WTH was what caused the whole thing

There's been so many stories of this night from different perspectives that it is difficult to know exactly what went down and why. The general overview I've gathered is this:

As the filming deadline loomed for Welcome To Hell, it became apparent that either Jamie or Muska was going to get last part, based on their respective footage. This created some tension between the two, especially because Jamie is also the de facto filmer, editor, and team manager for Toy. Muska breaks his ankle trying to tailslide the Cardiel hubba, which allows Jamie to pull ahead & get more clips to justify giving him last part. You could speculate that the frustration of being injured, the tension of the last months of filming, losing last part to the guy who had the hands on the reins the whole time anyways and who was probably going to give himself the last part even if Chad didn't get hurt, was building inside The Muska. Then it's premiere night, the final mastering of the premiere copy gets delayed/lost and there is no video to show. People are confused/frustrated/angry, including an intoxicated Muska, who goes off on Ed and Ed kicks him off that night/next day. My assumption is that he was partly frustrated at Ed for being such a passive team owner and letting JT run everything, which made Chad feel like he was being held back/overshadowed.

This is from 15+ years of hearing many different versions of the story, and I probably missed some details or misinterpreted some of it. Lmk if you think I missed anything.

[Lowcalcium]

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Not a career ender by any means, but Muska definitely got kicked off of Toy Machine for some drunk shenanigans.

At the "Welcome to Hell" premiere he got too drunk on Goldschlager and called Templeton essentially a bitch because the video wasn't going to premiere due to some technical issues. I still think this is one of the funniest reasons to ever get kicked off of a brand.

Again, not even remotely a career ender because Muska went on to actually become the Muska with the creation of Shorty's...and in time we get the Chadilliac.

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I thought him wanting last part in WTH was what caused the whole thing

Nah that wasn't the reason, Chad was actually injured and had already accepted the fact that Jamie was going to get curtains in "Welcome to Hell."

He talks about it specifically at (13:20) in his Epicly Later'd.

[Plan9Customs]

Anyone mention Piss Wizard yet?

[Scarecrow Radio]

I nominate Pat 'The Sinner' Pasquale and his dark descent into the MAGAverse

[Sangriawaterfall]

I nominate Pat 'The Sinner' Pasquale and his dark descent into the MAGAverse

He dubstepped down the MAGAhole

[Shtonk]

Anyone mention Piss Wizard yet?

Callum Paul? Isn't he on Passport still?