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Title: FA cornball activity
Post by: theoriginalgoon on September 27, 2023, 09:49:21 PM
Dill’s goofy ass at it again with his typical kook shit. Blatantly stealing a comic artists work with no intention of paying them. Literal copy and paste shit too. And dropping the Dylan photo board with no intention of donating the proceeds to the foundation. Just trying to line his pockets off Dylan’s name.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxtFz-oL_9V/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxQYhn1ud-o/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


https://faworldentertainment.com/products/dylan-rieder-photo
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Made In China on September 27, 2023, 09:56:38 PM
I think the dylan board is fine. He’s their friend, whatever.

The blatant copying is pretty rough though. That’s almost an exact replica
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Jack Locke on September 27, 2023, 10:01:44 PM
Almost?
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: leafman4000 on September 27, 2023, 10:42:33 PM
FA does something lame? Shocker
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Dante Bichette on September 27, 2023, 10:46:17 PM
I’ve definitely never seen a brand copy and paste artwork/photos before this is big news.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 27, 2023, 10:58:32 PM
FA does something lame? Shocker
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: alecjahr on September 27, 2023, 11:04:11 PM
Dylan’s mom has all rights too his image I doubt they’re not getting a part of sales.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Atiba Applebum on September 27, 2023, 11:28:38 PM
I’ve definitely never seen a brand copy and paste artwork/photos before this is big news.

Yup, but I think the issue is whether it’s altered in anyway or just a cut and paste job.   Andrew Allen has a famous sweet heart of the rodeo deck out and they changed it by putting her on a crucifix (for some reason)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Septa Bus on September 28, 2023, 03:40:36 AM
just merge w the other two B threads at this point
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: kook1234 on September 28, 2023, 05:36:25 AM
clutches pearls
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: fuck_that_guy on September 28, 2023, 05:50:22 AM
fuck that guy
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Rip Wheeler on September 28, 2023, 06:11:22 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/9tmX6vW/ripgif4.gif) (https://ibb.co/jR9Km5D)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: GAY on September 28, 2023, 07:07:07 AM
Wow, until now FA has been so respectable and faux pas-free.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Ankle_Lift on September 28, 2023, 07:08:29 AM
I had a moment awhile back. I knew I was getting old/am old.

There were some teens skating the indoor last winter. one of them had on oversized baggy FA sweatpants, with the Fucking Awesome logo printed all over them, and I think they were yellow?

It was the goofiest looking shit I'd seen in a long while.

But...the cycle continues I suppose.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Lhotse’s Pit of Death on September 28, 2023, 07:22:29 AM
If Reynolds did it everyone would love it. He’s a respectable child/minority talent exploiting ex drug addict dammit!
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Dustgod on September 28, 2023, 07:28:13 AM
If Reynolds did it everyone would love it. He’s a respectable child/minority talent exploiting ex drug addict dammit!

Hey at least he still skates
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: manysnakes on September 28, 2023, 07:35:55 AM
If Reynolds did it everyone would love it. He’s a respectable child/minority talent exploiting ex drug addict dammit!

When was the last time Reynolds put out a chintzy hat with stolen artwork and marketed it with Terry Richardson-style flash photography?
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: TelethonJohn on September 28, 2023, 08:02:53 AM
Yeah, that is definitely weird. Worth noting, however, that the original is from a Jo Mora pictorial map. Dunno if his estate ever received money from the Byrds.

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I’ve definitely never seen a brand copy and paste artwork/photos before this is big news.
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Yup, but I think the issue is whether it’s altered in anyway or just a cut and paste job.   Andrew Allen has a famous sweet heart of the rodeo deck out and they changed it by putting her on a crucifix (for some reason)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 28, 2023, 08:23:24 AM
I'm ok with theft. It happens to me all the time.
I steal too
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: veritas on September 28, 2023, 08:34:21 AM
I’ve definitely never seen a brand copy and paste artwork/photos before this is big news.

Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: yungthug on September 28, 2023, 08:37:38 AM
Good artists create
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: apport on September 28, 2023, 08:40:40 AM
this isn't really surprising for FA because their whole aesthetic is cut and paste collage style, which admittedly i appreciate at times, but this isn't public domain or some old photo with unknown origin. i would hope FA reached out to paul kirchner and worked something out, but i would assume not. i remember i got an FA sticker years ago that was straight up just the art from robert williams' appetite for destruction cover. i know it's kind of a grey area in skateboarding because parodies and homages are so commonplace, but jacking art like that is just so lame and lazy, especially for a big company like FA.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Brwnsuga907 on September 28, 2023, 09:40:38 AM
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fucking Awesome. The graphics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of basic art studies the graphics will go over a typical skater's head. There's also Dill's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these graphics, to realize that they're not just cool- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Fucking Awesome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the beauty in Fucking Awesome’s existential skate film "Randy Farkus" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Aidan Mackey's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Fucking Awesome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Sizzle on September 28, 2023, 09:46:54 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/9tmX6vW/ripgif4.gif) (https://ibb.co/jR9Km5D)
So just nobody’s gonna talk about this guy making a gimmick account where he responds in character as a dude from the tv show Yellowstone? This is arguably worse than bardcore. Your stone (brain) must be yellow (jaundiced) if you gnar this dude
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Lin Thizzy on September 28, 2023, 10:00:03 AM
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fucking Awesome. The graphics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of basic art studies the graphics will go over a typical skater's head. There's also Dill's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these graphics, to realize that they're not just cool- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Fucking Awesome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the beauty in Fucking Awesome’s existential skate film "Randy Farkus" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Aidan Mackey's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Fucking Awesome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/5JIVuCsk5v6gM/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Cool Ceith on September 28, 2023, 10:16:10 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/VBjqtFC/Screen-Shot-2023-09-28-at-10-14-14-AM.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: biaherl on September 28, 2023, 10:24:16 AM
SKATEBOARDING IS ABOUT FOLLOWING THE RULES!!!!
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Dante Bichette on September 28, 2023, 10:26:26 AM
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I’ve definitely never seen a brand copy and paste artwork/photos before this is big news.
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Yup, but I think the issue is whether it’s altered in anyway or just a cut and paste job.   Andrew Allen has a famous sweet heart of the rodeo deck out and they changed it by putting her on a crucifix (for some reason)

I definitely see the nuance in it, just as corny as FA has gotten over the years some people are wayyy too eager to find any and everything to nitpick that many other companies do. In a perfect world they actually did reach out and get permission to use this.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Lin Thizzy on September 28, 2023, 10:32:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/QULlpJw.png)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Bread Harrity on September 28, 2023, 10:35:58 AM
I had a moment awhile back. I knew I was getting old/am old.

There were some teens skating the indoor last winter. one of them had on oversized baggy FA sweatpants, with the Fucking Awesome logo printed all over them, and I think they were yellow?

It was the goofiest looking shit I'd seen in a long while.

But...the cycle continues I suppose.

the krew TK hoodie for this generation
(https://media-photos.depop.com/b0/2157905/965617613_866435a511524d0dbc4100a897a857b7/P0.jpg)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: WPG on September 28, 2023, 10:57:34 AM
To play Dill's devils advocate

The Deck might have money going to the Foundation, I can't tell from the site but it might be his foundations logo above the FA logo on the front bolts. (Foundation logo is a different signature to the main one on the topsheet)

His portrait deck no longer says proceeds go to his foundation but in the past it did so maybe they just aren't putting it on the F.A. site anymore (Dumb if true)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: TwisT on September 28, 2023, 11:00:45 AM
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I had a moment awhile back. I knew I was getting old/am old.

There were some teens skating the indoor last winter. one of them had on oversized baggy FA sweatpants, with the Fucking Awesome logo printed all over them, and I think they were yellow?

It was the goofiest looking shit I'd seen in a long while.

But...the cycle continues I suppose.
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the krew TK hoodie for this generation
(https://media-photos.depop.com/b0/2157905/965617613_866435a511524d0dbc4100a897a857b7/P0.jpg)


hey hey hey! When I was 19 and wore this hoodie, I was cool. Kids these days are bad! Why don't they just dress like I did when I was 19?
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Allen. on September 28, 2023, 11:41:06 AM
I still want that TK hoodie and I’m about to be 33
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: dr.prestige on September 28, 2023, 12:15:54 PM
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If Reynolds did it everyone would love it. He’s a respectable child/minority talent exploiting ex drug addict dammit!
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Hey at least he still skates

When I read this I thought "didn't Dill get a cover a few years ago?" I checked and it was in 2011
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on September 28, 2023, 12:37:28 PM
FA is far from my favorite company but sometimes I feel like the hate is reaching. Lord knows I have my opinion on the incorrect dash snow critiques but that’s mostly cause I think dash snow was bullshit (with all due respect to the fact that he’s dead).

Don’t get me wrong FA is ten years old and not nearly as fresh. I’m sure they’ll become another zero/girl/etc. legacy brand. That being said saying that they’re stealing from comics being kook behavior seems odd. Quite a few companies have lifted comic art going back to the 90s. I mean there’s the very recent Fred gall metal reissue Swamp Thing deck.

What I’m getting at is I feel like in one sense FA is toast as far as being on top but I genuinely think if they keep it stable they could continue as a smaller/medium sized brand. I still think as a sub genre of skating they contribute something cool and their videos are rad. Also my friend gave me an FA beanie last year and if it wasn’t lime green it would have been the best beanie I’ve ever owned.

I guess im saying if I think of the lasting brands in skating FA being around for a while longer albeit a little smaller scale seems cooler to me than plan b. Also if FA isn’t cool anymore it means my old ass can buy another FA beanie and not worry about being an old person trying to look cool :), I can just be old and out of touch. So actually keep up the hate for the sake of my dumb head
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 28, 2023, 03:23:48 PM
FA is far from my favorite company but sometimes I feel like the hate is reaching. Lord knows I have my opinion on the incorrect dash snow critiques but that’s mostly cause I think dash snow was bullshit (with all due respect to the fact that he’s dead).

Don’t get me wrong FA is ten years old and not nearly as fresh. I’m sure they’ll become another zero/girl/etc. legacy brand. That being said saying that they’re stealing from comics being kook behavior seems odd. Quite a few companies have lifted comic art going back to the 90s. I mean there’s the very recent Fred gall metal reissue Swamp Thing deck.

What I’m getting at is I feel like in one sense FA is toast as far as being on top but I genuinely think if they keep it stable they could continue as a smaller/medium sized brand. I still think as a sub genre of skating they contribute something cool and their videos are rad. Also my friend gave me an FA beanie last year and if it wasn’t lime green it would have been the best beanie I’ve ever owned.

I guess im saying if I think of the lasting brands in skating FA being around for a while longer albeit a little smaller scale seems cooler to me than plan b. Also if FA isn’t cool anymore it means my old ass can buy another FA beanie and not worry about being an old person trying to look cool :), I can just be old and out of touch. So actually keep up the hate for the sake of my dumb head

Preach.
I’m 32 and love FA and hockey.
I understand both sides. I to can’t help but judge their ethics and the general influence they abuse when drug use is sometimes the focal point. On the other hand all bloard brands are subject to these types of criticisms and it’s what makes our culture special.

It’s with this mindset that I can separate the art from the artist.

I can watch NXT wrestling and completely disregard Shawn Michaels influence on the show.

Dills influence on FA and Hockey is probably limited as it’s not him who is doing the skating. The driving force is in my opinion the Guys/gals on the team. I could be wrong, but this is what I choose to believe to be the situation.

It must stink having the mindset of overly critical consumer, as all these bloard brands are compromised in particular ways. What do you skate when you think this way?

Ignorance is bliss in this case. Why would I dwell on Dillards personal going on’s when I’m too busy doing flat gap 50-50’s like K-rod. Taking pride in being a heelflip guy like Sage. Or being content with my aging shell like Andrew Allen.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: jgonzalez on September 28, 2023, 05:01:52 PM
Good artists create
- Oscar Mild
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Ricky Vaughn on September 28, 2023, 05:44:15 PM
The Mild Bunch
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Shortys Hardware on September 28, 2023, 05:52:37 PM
my friend dm'd (like a man) Paul Kirchner and he responded saying FA are paying him
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: apply today on September 28, 2023, 05:56:36 PM
thank you shortys hardware's friend
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Mike Oxwelling on September 28, 2023, 06:49:49 PM
Its from High Times.   He likes his weed.  Probably liked the image.   
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on September 28, 2023, 07:16:22 PM
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FA is far from my favorite company but sometimes I feel like the hate is reaching. Lord knows I have my opinion on the incorrect dash snow critiques but that’s mostly cause I think dash snow was bullshit (with all due respect to the fact that he’s dead).

Don’t get me wrong FA is ten years old and not nearly as fresh. I’m sure they’ll become another zero/girl/etc. legacy brand. That being said saying that they’re stealing from comics being kook behavior seems odd. Quite a few companies have lifted comic art going back to the 90s. I mean there’s the very recent Fred gall metal reissue Swamp Thing deck.

What I’m getting at is I feel like in one sense FA is toast as far as being on top but I genuinely think if they keep it stable they could continue as a smaller/medium sized brand. I still think as a sub genre of skating they contribute something cool and their videos are rad. Also my friend gave me an FA beanie last year and if it wasn’t lime green it would have been the best beanie I’ve ever owned.

I guess im saying if I think of the lasting brands in skating FA being around for a while longer albeit a little smaller scale seems cooler to me than plan b. Also if FA isn’t cool anymore it means my old ass can buy another FA beanie and not worry about being an old person trying to look cool :), I can just be old and out of touch. So actually keep up the hate for the sake of my dumb head
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Preach.
I’m 32 and love FA and hockey.
I understand both sides. I to can’t help but judge their ethics and the general influence they abuse when drug use is sometimes the focal point. On the other hand all bloard brands are subject to these types of criticisms and it’s what makes our culture special.

It’s with this mindset that I can separate the art from the artist.

I can watch NXT wrestling and completely disregard Shawn Michaels influence on the show.

Dills influence on FA and Hockey is probably limited as it’s not him who is doing the skating. The driving force is in my opinion the Guys/gals on the team. I could be wrong, but this is what I choose to believe to be the situation.

It must stink having the mindset of overly critical consumer, as all these bloard brands are compromised in particular ways. What do you skate when you think this way?

Ignorance is bliss in this case. Why would I dwell on Dillards personal going on’s when I’m too busy doing flat gap 50-50’s like K-rod. Taking pride in being a heelflip guy like Sage. Or being content with my aging shell like Andrew Allen.


Well said! I too love Hockey & FA. I think it’s funny that a large amount of energy goes into hating FA or calling them. For what reason? Ignore them, don’t buy the boards & move on. I’ll keep buying em. Negative attention is a thing though.

Also @Baglady get over to the wrestling thread. Huge wrestling fan over here. NXT No Mercy will be a mighty fine event. Dragunov would ride a Hockey board without a doubt. Him & Kadow would be pals.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Dante Bichette on September 28, 2023, 07:29:07 PM
On a side note this run of FA boards is garbanzo. Hockey should really be selling more than FA, their art direction is 10x better. Also shoutout to BD for her graphic selling out before Louie/Sage. I may not like it but gotta respect it.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: nicotinewheel on September 28, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
It’s all up front-there’s a bad swear right in the name.

if you can’t handle that, maybe this ain’t for you
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: prisoner223 on September 28, 2023, 08:59:03 PM
This thread made me realise I didn't know what current FA looks like. Went on to Supply store and saw this in the brand bio...
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: dr.prestige on September 28, 2023, 09:40:45 PM
This thread made me realise I didn't know what current FA looks like. Went on to Supply store and saw this in the brand bio...

lol I have a hard time believing that whoever wrote this wasn't joking
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: leafman4000 on September 28, 2023, 10:06:01 PM
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This thread made me realise I didn't know what current FA looks like. Went on to Supply store and saw this in the brand bio...
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lol I have a hard time believing that whoever wrote this wasn't joking

tbh that does kind of sound like something that dill would pay someone else to write about FA on FA's website
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Shtonk on September 28, 2023, 10:58:41 PM
Would be very interested to hear why exactly some of you old heads love FA. Something tells me it's a youth fetish disguised as skate coreism but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: prisoner223 on September 28, 2023, 11:45:35 PM
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This thread made me realise I didn't know what current FA looks like. Went on to Supply store and saw this in the brand bio...
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lol I have a hard time believing that whoever wrote this wasn't joking
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tbh that does kind of sound like something that dill would pay someone else to write about FA on FA's website

I wish it was a joke but considering it also includes this quote from Dill, 'I constantly shoot myself in the foot from a business standpoint actually because I make it for sale but at the same time I don't want you to have it. It's a bit of a personality disorder company,' I don't think it is.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 29, 2023, 05:21:11 AM
Would be very interested to hear why exactly some of you old heads love FA. Something tells me it's a youth fetish disguised as skate coreism but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Depends? 25 and up are old heads? Also, what tells you it may be a “youth fetish”?

Here’s a question for your question. Why does today’s generation polarize folks sexual preferences?

That’s even weirder, sitting and contemplating these thoughts you’re displaying.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 29, 2023, 06:01:16 AM
Would be very interested to hear why exactly some of you old heads love FA. Something tells me it's a youth fetish disguised as skate coreism but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Depends? 25 and up are old heads? Also, what tells you it may be a “youth fetish”?

Here’s a question for your question. Why does the new generation polarize sexual preference?
Young heads I’d say, like to make up words to support their beliefs. “Coreism”? How many “isms” you live by dawg?

I’d say it’s nothing to do with being “core” for me. But more so the aesthetic, the skating. Takes me back. Sick of polished skating, ledge dancing and riding away with fake style. I grew up on ZERO and Deathwish. The old spirit that Cardiel displayed where you just don’t give a shit, it’s a make or die situation.

You seen Diego Todd skate? Only thing that makes my old horny ass wanna do is replicate that energy some how!

Open your mind and step out of horny jail.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: KGB on September 29, 2023, 06:40:30 AM
Dill’s goofy ass at it again with his typical kook shit. Blatantly stealing a comic artists work with no intention of paying them. Literal copy and paste shit too. And dropping the Dylan photo board with no intention of donating the proceeds to the foundation. Just trying to line his pockets off Dylan’s name.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxtFz-oL_9V/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxQYhn1ud-o/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


https://faworldentertainment.com/products/dylan-rieder-photo

Ahh, I knew I’ve seen that image somewhere before.

Looks like he’s getting more hate the comments lately.

(https://i.postimg.cc/c4vYgWhZ/IMG-7608.png)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: manysnakes on September 29, 2023, 06:52:38 AM
People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: GAY on September 29, 2023, 06:56:30 AM
People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.

Yeah there is literally zero intellectual effort needed in the simple act of recognition that Dill brands are garbage.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: KGB on September 29, 2023, 07:02:31 AM
People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.

See first comment posted above  ;)
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Ricky Vaughn on September 29, 2023, 08:24:31 AM
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This thread made me realise I didn't know what current FA looks like. Went on to Supply store and saw this in the brand bio...
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lol I have a hard time believing that whoever wrote this wasn't joking
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tbh that does kind of sound like something that dill would pay someone else to write about FA on FA's website

fr
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: formula420 on September 29, 2023, 08:32:27 AM
Would be very interested to hear why exactly some of you old heads love FA. Something tells me it's a youth fetish disguised as skate coreism but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

I legitimately like the shovel nose shapes.  I only skate fa and quasi (whatever the shop has that day) purely based on shape.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Star Whores Episode I: The Fellatio Menace on September 29, 2023, 08:41:13 AM
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I’ve definitely never seen a brand copy and paste artwork/photos before this is big news.
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Yup, but I think the issue is whether it’s altered in anyway or just a cut and paste job.   Andrew Allen has a famous sweet heart of the rodeo deck out and they changed it by putting her on a crucifix (for some reason)

FA's whole style guide is based around cut and paste photo collages a la Dash Snow. It's a fine line because they're naturally going to use someone else's work, because the artistic novelty is in how they reimagine it.

That said, the scorpion thing goes over the line.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 29, 2023, 08:49:51 AM
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People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.
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Yeah there is literally zero intellectual effort needed in the simple act of recognition that Dill brands are garbage.

There should be a thread on what some people think is “non-corny”. It seems if you are a person in the general public view they are subjected to being kooked.

The hate in FA’s comments is a reflection of todays mob mentality. The fear of not fitting in and conforming to todays daily hate train. Hell, everytime I open up this website FA is at the top of discussion. Any and all IG comments I assume, is mostly filled to brim of an either love it or hate it all the way kind of prerogative. GAY, I’m sure if you wore FA product it wouldn’t look right, so I understand.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Democratic Republic Of Mongo on September 29, 2023, 09:02:22 AM
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Would be very interested to hear why exactly some of you old heads love FA. Something tells me it's a youth fetish disguised as skate coreism but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
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I legitimately like the shovel nose shapes.  I only skate fa and quasi (whatever the shop has that day) purely based on shape.

As long as those shapes don’t have an embarrassing graphic, I shall skate it. Only the class photos and a couple others here and there are really that bad. Hockey is much cooler, even if you’re old.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: manysnakes on September 29, 2023, 09:19:30 AM
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People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.
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Yeah there is literally zero intellectual effort needed in the simple act of recognition that Dill brands are garbage.
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The hate in FA’s comments is a reflection of todays mob mentality.

lol
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: skunty on September 29, 2023, 09:21:37 AM
my friend dm'd (like a man) Paul Kirchner and he responded saying FA are paying him

did everyone miss this? they didnt steal the image, its a "collab" or a license deal or whatever you wanna call it. its from a cartoon from high times magazine. the whole premise of this thread is unfounded
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 29, 2023, 09:29:14 AM
I could fix fa easily if I had a say.

I know exactly what fat to cut and who to put on in their place.

Art department slash and burn
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: veritas on September 29, 2023, 09:35:23 AM
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my friend dm'd (like a man) Paul Kirchner and he responded saying FA are paying him
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did everyone miss this? they didnt steal the image, its a "collab" or a license deal or whatever you wanna call it. its from a cartoon from high times magazine. the whole premise of this thread is unfounded

After reading this it’s hilarious how rabid and foaming at the mouth the original post sounds. Dill derangement syndrome is too real
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 29, 2023, 09:42:57 AM
I could fix fa easily if I had a say.

I know exactly what fat to cut and who to put on in their place.

Art department slash and burn

What’s to fix unc? Sure, BD is a big issue atm. Bloards are being sold.

Edit: FA has a store in freaking South Korea. Sounds like they’re doing alright.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 29, 2023, 10:08:29 AM
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People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.
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Yeah there is literally zero intellectual effort needed in the simple act of recognition that Dill brands are garbage.
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There should be a thread on what some people think is “non-corny”. It seems if you are a person in the general public view they are subjected to being kooked.

The hate in FA’s comments is a reflection of todays mob mentality. The fear of not fitting in and conforming to todays daily hate train. Hell, everytime I open up this website FA is at the top of discussion. Any and all IG comments I assume, is mostly filled to brim of an either love it or hate it all the way kind of prerogative. GAY, I’m sure if you wore FA product it wouldn’t look right, so I understand.
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Not corny:
*Hot dogs
*Burritos
*Most tomato based salsa
*Fried white fish
*Rice pudding

Corny:
*Corndogs
*Tacos (corn tortilla)
*Most black bean salsa
*Fried catfish
*Corn pudding
*FA and Dill
*Writing weird semi-coherent rants about other people not liking something you like

I thought I was being pretty coherent. :/
I get plenty heat in real life for the shit I like. Makes me love it more.

I drank a lot of coffee and didn’t work for 2 hours this morning so probably not very coherent. That’s my excuse. What’s weird about it? It’d be weird if I put this somewhere else where the convo doesn’t pertain.

Regardless, I got love for all y’all.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: AceBoogie on September 29, 2023, 10:17:24 AM
hats wack whether its stolen, an original or a collab.
anytime someones trying to put out a product with a obscure reference to something that wasnt that dope as an original is a miss.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: dr.prestige on September 29, 2023, 10:30:45 AM
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People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.
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Yeah there is literally zero intellectual effort needed in the simple act of recognition that Dill brands are garbage.
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There should be a thread on what some people think is “non-corny”. It seems if you are a person in the general public view they are subjected to being kooked.

The hate in FA’s comments is a reflection of todays mob mentality. The fear of not fitting in and conforming to todays daily hate train. Hell, everytime I open up this website FA is at the top of discussion. Any and all IG comments I assume, is mostly filled to brim of an either love it or hate it all the way kind of prerogative. GAY, I’m sure if you wore FA product it wouldn’t look right, so I understand.
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Not corny:
*Hot dogs
*Burritos
*Most tomato based salsa
*Fried white fish
*Rice pudding

Corny:
*Corndogs
*Tacos (corn tortilla)
*Most black bean salsa
*Fried catfish
*Corn pudding
*FA and Dill
*Writing weird semi-coherent rants about other people not liking something you like
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I thought I was being pretty coherent. :/
I get plenty heat in real life for the shit I like. Makes me love it more.

I drank a lot of coffee this morning and didn’t work for 2 hours this morning so probably not very coherent. That’s my excuse. What’s weird about it? It’d be weird if I put this somewhere else where the convo doesn’t pertain.

Regardless, I got love for all y’all.

You seemed pretty coherent to me
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 29, 2023, 10:39:12 AM
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People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.
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Yeah there is literally zero intellectual effort needed in the simple act of recognition that Dill brands are garbage.
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There should be a thread on what some people think is “non-corny”. It seems if you are a person in the general public view they are subjected to being kooked.

The hate in FA’s comments is a reflection of todays mob mentality. The fear of not fitting in and conforming to todays daily hate train. Hell, everytime I open up this website FA is at the top of discussion. Any and all IG comments I assume, is mostly filled to brim of an either love it or hate it all the way kind of prerogative. GAY, I’m sure if you wore FA product it wouldn’t look right, so I understand.
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Not corny:
*Hot dogs
*Burritos
*Most tomato based salsa
*Fried white fish
*Rice pudding

Corny:
*Corndogs
*Tacos (corn tortilla)
*Most black bean salsa
*Fried catfish
*Corn pudding
*FA and Dill
*Writing weird semi-coherent rants about other people not liking something you like
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I thought I was being pretty coherent. :/
I get plenty heat in real life for the shit I like. Makes me love it more.

I drank a lot of coffee this morning and didn’t work for 2 hours this morning so probably not very coherent. That’s my excuse. What’s weird about it? It’d be weird if I put this somewhere else where the convo doesn’t pertain.

Regardless, I got love for all y’all.
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You seemed pretty coherent to me

Thanx doc.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on September 29, 2023, 10:41:22 AM
hats wack whether its stolen, an original or a collab.
anytime someones trying to put out a product with a obscure reference to something that wasnt that dope as an original is a miss.

Agree. The graphic is cool, but over-sized embroidery on hats hardly every looks good imo.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: leafman4000 on September 29, 2023, 11:05:48 AM
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FA is far from my favorite company but sometimes I feel like the hate is reaching. Lord knows I have my opinion on the incorrect dash snow critiques but that’s mostly cause I think dash snow was bullshit (with all due respect to the fact that he’s dead).

Don’t get me wrong FA is ten years old and not nearly as fresh. I’m sure they’ll become another zero/girl/etc. legacy brand. That being said saying that they’re stealing from comics being kook behavior seems odd. Quite a few companies have lifted comic art going back to the 90s. I mean there’s the very recent Fred gall metal reissue Swamp Thing deck.

What I’m getting at is I feel like in one sense FA is toast as far as being on top but I genuinely think if they keep it stable they could continue as a smaller/medium sized brand. I still think as a sub genre of skating they contribute something cool and their videos are rad. Also my friend gave me an FA beanie last year and if it wasn’t lime green it would have been the best beanie I’ve ever owned.

I guess im saying if I think of the lasting brands in skating FA being around for a while longer albeit a little smaller scale seems cooler to me than plan b. Also if FA isn’t cool anymore it means my old ass can buy another FA beanie and not worry about being an old person trying to look cool :), I can just be old and out of touch. So actually keep up the hate for the sake of my dumb head
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Preach.
I’m 32 and love FA and hockey.
I understand both sides. I to can’t help but judge their ethics and the general influence they abuse when drug use is sometimes the focal point. On the other hand all bloard brands are subject to these types of criticisms and it’s what makes our culture special.

It’s with this mindset that I can separate the art from the artist.

I can watch NXT wrestling and completely disregard Shawn Michaels influence on the show.

Dills influence on FA and Hockey is probably limited as it’s not him who is doing the skating. The driving force is in my opinion the Guys/gals on the team. I could be wrong, but this is what I choose to believe to be the situation.

It must stink having the mindset of overly critical consumer, as all these bloard brands are compromised in particular ways. What do you skate when you think this way?

Ignorance is bliss in this case. Why would I dwell on Dillards personal going on’s when I’m too busy doing flat gap 50-50’s like K-rod. Taking pride in being a heelflip guy like Sage. Or being content with my aging shell like Andrew Allen.

Somehow it doesnt surprise me that youre a staunch FA supporter
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: TheWineClub on September 29, 2023, 11:11:03 AM
I hate Dill but love Benny. I’m conflicted.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: skunty on September 29, 2023, 11:46:07 AM
hats wack whether its stolen, an original or a collab.
anytime someones trying to put out a product with a obscure reference to something that wasnt that dope as an original is a miss.

agree if its a newly manfucatured product, butif u find obscure shit with an interesting aesthetic at the thrift store for $5 then thats cool as fuck
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Baglady on September 29, 2023, 11:48:36 AM
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FA is far from my favorite company but sometimes I feel like the hate is reaching. Lord knows I have my opinion on the incorrect dash snow critiques but that’s mostly cause I think dash snow was bullshit (with all due respect to the fact that he’s dead).

Don’t get me wrong FA is ten years old and not nearly as fresh. I’m sure they’ll become another zero/girl/etc. legacy brand. That being said saying that they’re stealing from comics being kook behavior seems odd. Quite a few companies have lifted comic art going back to the 90s. I mean there’s the very recent Fred gall metal reissue Swamp Thing deck.

What I’m getting at is I feel like in one sense FA is toast as far as being on top but I genuinely think if they keep it stable they could continue as a smaller/medium sized brand. I still think as a sub genre of skating they contribute something cool and their videos are rad. Also my friend gave me an FA beanie last year and if it wasn’t lime green it would have been the best beanie I’ve ever owned.

I guess im saying if I think of the lasting brands in skating FA being around for a while longer albeit a little smaller scale seems cooler to me than plan b. Also if FA isn’t cool anymore it means my old ass can buy another FA beanie and not worry about being an old person trying to look cool :), I can just be old and out of touch. So actually keep up the hate for the sake of my dumb head
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Preach.
I’m 32 and love FA and hockey.
I understand both sides. I to can’t help but judge their ethics and the general influence they abuse when drug use is sometimes the focal point. On the other hand all bloard brands are subject to these types of criticisms and it’s what makes our culture special.

It’s with this mindset that I can separate the art from the artist.

I can watch NXT wrestling and completely disregard Shawn Michaels influence on the show.

Dills influence on FA and Hockey is probably limited as it’s not him who is doing the skating. The driving force is in my opinion the Guys/gals on the team. I could be wrong, but this is what I choose to believe to be the situation.

It must stink having the mindset of overly critical consumer, as all these bloard brands are compromised in particular ways. What do you skate when you think this way?

Ignorance is bliss in this case. Why would I dwell on Dillards personal going on’s when I’m too busy doing flat gap 50-50’s like K-rod. Taking pride in being a heelflip guy like Sage. Or being content with my aging shell like Andrew Allen.
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Somehow it doesnt surprise me that youre a staunch FA supporter

I’m bag lady foo. Fuk u thot?
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on September 29, 2023, 02:07:02 PM
^cornball activity
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: snowman600 on September 29, 2023, 03:15:21 PM
I was living a dumb, blissful life as a Hockey fanboy for years, obv love the boards, also loved their hoodies until this past drop. they quietly made the switch from 70/30 poly/cotton blend to 50/50 and now they're flimsy and cheap looking and the fit's gross.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: theoriginalgoon on September 29, 2023, 03:25:17 PM
I was living a dumb, blissful life as a Hockey fanboy for years, obv love the boards, also loved their hoodies until this past drop. they quietly made the switch from 70/30 poly/cotton blend to 50/50 and now they're flimsy and cheap looking and the fit's gross.


Probably due to the raising costs of everything, they probably went with another company to print blanks on since they were most likely cheaper. That way they can keep profit margins close to the same. Which is why more people should either support companies that print on old vintage blanks or start their own and do the same. Obviously would be harder to find mass quantities of vintage blanks to print on but it is still possible. The quality of vintage blanks are just so much better than todays fast fashion bullshit
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on September 29, 2023, 03:55:15 PM
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I’ve definitely never seen a brand copy and paste artwork/photos before this is big news.
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Yup, but I think the issue is whether it’s altered in anyway or just a cut and paste job.   Andrew Allen has a famous sweet heart of the rodeo deck out and they changed it by putting her on a crucifix (for some reason)
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FA's whole style guide is based around cut and paste photo collages a la Dash Snow. It's a fine line because they're naturally going to use someone else's work, because the artistic novelty is in how they reimagine it.

That said, the scorpion thing goes over the line.

I swear I only participate in these threads to endlessly say that dash snow was a hack and his art career was fabricated by his wealthy, art connected grandmother and vice. His style was hardly his own and if you look at the timeline of him and dill their relationship seem much closer to a Dylan/austyn scenario. Dill had a background of making mail collages well before meeting dash and dashs news collages actually started popping up in a similar time to when dill moved to nyc. Before that time he was lifting his style from earsnot. Not saying dill is without influence from dash but to say he copied dash’s “style” give a lot of credit to someone who made literally nothing of actual substance.

I don’t think dill is a great artist. I don’t think either of them pioneered this style of collage. They both largely lifted it from underground music. Keep in mind that the art world very quickly called snow out for being a wealthy socialite who fabricated an art career to justify a self image of rebellion that was largely based around pretending he was poor and partying. Critiquing or not liking dills collages is totally cool but let’s admit this dash snow critique is just parroting gifted hater cause it’s gives a whole lot of credit to someone who was the equivalent of a kardashian in the 00s hipster/vice fashion world. And just to get it out of the way his death and struggles with addiction are tragic but I don’t think his death means he was necessarily a great artist
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: roba on September 29, 2023, 04:06:45 PM
I'm ok with theft. It happens to me all the time.
I steal too
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: GAY on September 29, 2023, 04:15:32 PM
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People writing essays about their opinions regarding FA, but none of the ink spilled addresses the fact that Dill and FA are, in fact, extremely corny.
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Yeah there is literally zero intellectual effort needed in the simple act of recognition that Dill brands are garbage.
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There should be a thread on what some people think is “non-corny”. It seems if you are a person in the general public view they are subjected to being kooked.

The hate in FA’s comments is a reflection of todays mob mentality. The fear of not fitting in and conforming to todays daily hate train. Hell, everytime I open up this website FA is at the top of discussion. Any and all IG comments I assume, is mostly filled to brim of an either love it or hate it all the way kind of prerogative. GAY, I’m sure if you wore FA product it wouldn’t look right, so I understand.

You do make a great point: I would look like an idiot in a banana yellow pantsuit covered in photos of Obama.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: frontsideNECKTIE on September 29, 2023, 04:27:18 PM
You corny and read all my posts. Get off my Gucci I don’t buy FA I buy mansions in the retreat with my homies. We building a skate community. The golf corse is dried up. We got a snake run started. Watch out for rattle snakes. Some y’all think different

Study em like a book. your snaketopia sounds rad we aint ready for you to bang us over the head. locals only right? no Dilberts, no Dillerdz
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: lilyung on September 29, 2023, 05:31:32 PM
Wait sooo is the the comic book company or Dylan's fam calling em out or somehting?

Just confused how we're so certain that the graphics aren't being licensed (like Supreme sometimes does)? Or how we've confirmed that proceeds from the boards don't go to Dylan's estate?

I'm not super tapped into graphic novels or FA's book keeping, so I may have missed some key details here

Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: versacekid420 on September 29, 2023, 07:14:48 PM
Artwork sucks no matter who did it first or who copied it lol
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Post by: Septa Bus on September 29, 2023, 09:26:57 PM
Artwork sucks no matter who did it first or who copied it like my nollie tre lol
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Post by: Made In China on September 29, 2023, 10:26:52 PM
Artwork sucks no matter who did it first or who copied it lol
would still take the FA hat over your nollie tre
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Yonnycage on September 30, 2023, 12:04:03 AM
A stream of words that don’t make no sense
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on September 30, 2023, 12:08:04 AM
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Would be very interested to hear why exactly some of you old heads love FA. Something tells me it's a youth fetish disguised as skate coreism but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
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I legitimately like the shovel nose shapes.  I only skate fa and quasi (whatever the shop has that day) purely based on shape.

This is my problem.  I hate the art direction but for whatever reason I skate the boards really well.   Is quasi essentially the same? I tried one a while back and the nose was similar but the tail seemed short.  Maybe I need to give Quasi another go. 
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Post by: bigmike on September 30, 2023, 06:56:39 AM
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Would be very interested to hear why exactly some of you old heads love FA. Something tells me it's a youth fetish disguised as skate coreism but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
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I legitimately like the shovel nose shapes.  I only skate fa and quasi (whatever the shop has that day) purely based on shape.
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This is my problem.  I hate the art direction but for whatever reason I skate the boards really well.   Is quasi essentially the same? I tried one a while back and the nose was similar but the tail seemed short.  Maybe I need to give Quasi another go.

The shovel nose isn’t my preferred shape, so I can’t say for certain. But having worked at a shop here in Philly, the kids who swear by the FA noses/shapes seem to love Quasi too for the same reason. Id say the shapes are pretty similar and harder to find outside those two brands (as far as I know).

We were even selling shop decks with a shovel nose for a while cuz it was such a common request from customers.
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Post by: versacekid420 on September 30, 2023, 10:34:27 AM
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Artwork sucks no matter who did it first or who copied it lol
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would still take the FA hat over your nollie tre
go buy it then brother
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: TheDingus on September 30, 2023, 12:36:00 PM
Ripping off art has been skate ethos since the early 90’s. It sucked then and it sucks now but it’ll never stop. Don’t worry yourselves over it.
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Urtripping on September 30, 2023, 03:24:11 PM
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fucking Awesome. The graphics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of basic art studies the graphics will go over a typical skater's head. There's also Dill's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these graphics, to realize that they're not just cool- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Fucking Awesome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the beauty in Fucking Awesome’s existential skate film "Randy Farkus" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Aidan Mackey's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Fucking Awesome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
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Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on October 01, 2023, 08:07:19 AM
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fucking Awesome. The graphics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of basic art studies the graphics will go over a typical skater's head. There's also Dill's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these graphics, to realize that they're not just cool- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Fucking Awesome truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the beauty in Fucking Awesome’s existential skate film "Randy Farkus" which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Aidan Mackey's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Fucking Awesome tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
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No one is saying Michelangelo wasn’t a genius but someone can still have the opinion his art sucked or that they did not appreciate it. 


Im currently riding a drift board with jellyfish on it.  I’m sure someone thinks it ugly AF.  I’ll fight them, but they can still believe this. 

Edit : typos
Title: Re: FA cornball activity
Post by: miff on October 01, 2023, 08:45:00 AM
my friend dm'd (like a man) Paul Kirchner and he responded saying FA are paying him

“Umm excuse me, sir… did you know that…”