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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: cucktard on July 07, 2020, 06:30:23 AM
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What would you like to warn other skaters about regarding equipment?
What warning labels should exist?
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SLAPPY on Bones Rough Riders or Spitfire Chargers.
They are amazing cruising wheels, but will chunk heavily if you impact anything.
DO NOT USE CLEAR GRIP on high wear areas on your deck.
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krux trucks. just dont
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Don't do Slappy's if you're young
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Don’t pop the shields.
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Get aftermarket insoles and get in the habit of stretching before you skate
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Don't do Slappy's if you're young
I would disagree here. I've learned a bunch of tricks on ledges after doing them on curbs first.
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What would you like to warn other skaters about regarding equipment?
What warning labels should exist?
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SLAPPY on Bones Rough Riders or Spitfire Chargers.
They are amazing cruising wheels, but will chunk heavily if you impact anything.
DO NOT USE CLEAR GRIP on high wear areas on your deck.
As bad as it sounds Mini Logo clear grip is the best almost identical to regular Mob. Mob clear grip is terrible.
Never clean your wheels with any type of soap, they lose their sound.
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Take care of your feet. You can wear whatever flimsy shoes you want when you're young, and feel fine. But you might pay for it later. Skate in supportive cupsoles, use aftermarket insoles with arch support (because almost zero skate shoes out right now even attempt arch support), and wear something better for your feet than skate shoes when you're not skating. You don't want problems with your feet, and taking care of them may also prevent issues with other stuff (like your back or your knees) down the road.
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Loose trucks are great, but it's not a contest. You can have them loose and reliable while still supporting the weight of a human.
If you're young, try a variety of shapes and sizes until you learn what feels best. Just because the old dude at your park likes 8.5 boards doesn't mean you will.
It's nerdy, but if you're on a budget, cleaning your bearings works. I've doubled the life of past sets by simply taking 15 minutes and cleaning them out when they start to die.
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Grind King Spark Trucks: CAUTION- User will never have sexual intercourse ever again.
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Things I wish I cold tell myself 20 years ago
-Wide, low, loose (but not "low" trucks)
-You don't need 58 or 60s to skate most parks. Good formula urethane means you can skate smaller wheels.
-Wheels need breaking in also. Bomb a few hills before blunt sliding them. They are less vulnerable to flat spots when they are broken in.
-Truck width and wheelbase might have more impact on your skateboarding than deck width.
-Tail length is important. Sub 6.5" is no good.
-Better to have slightly big shoes than slightly small.
-Be generous with your old equipment but never give away old trucks.
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You seriously don't need multiple setups for multiple specific purposes (ie street setup, tranny setup, slappy setup, cruiser setup, cruiser+slappy setup, etc). To be practical, at most you just need a regular setup and a cruiser.
I fell for this before and I ended up giving hella gear away and out of money.
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Relatedly, buying new gear in advance of when current gear gives out is a slippery slope. If your tail is practically gone or your trucks are well into the kingpin, go for it, but otherwise try to hold out.
If you like a nice carve, go with a truck known for it. Venture don’t surf.
Don’t pop the shields.
Guilty as charged, and sentenced to noticeably slower and shittier rolling around.
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You seriously don't need multiple setups for multiple specific purposes (ie street setup, tranny setup, slappy setup, cruiser setup, cruiser+slappy setup, etc). To be practical, at most you just need a regular setup and a cruiser.
I fell for this before and I ended up giving hella gear away and out of money.
I have to politely disagree there. For me at least, it is hard to a tre flip on the same board that feels comfortable on 9' trannies and proper vert.
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Wear a condom
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Go faster!
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You seriously don't need multiple setups for multiple specific purposes (ie street setup, tranny setup, slappy setup, cruiser setup, cruiser+slappy setup, etc). To be practical, at most you just need a regular setup and a cruiser.
I fell for this before and I ended up giving hella gear away and out of money.
I have to politely disagree there. For me at least, it is hard to a tre flip on the same board that feels comfortable on 9' trannies and proper vert.
Agree. The board I'm comfortable on in bowls (8.3/8.5+ACE or 159s +54/55mm wheels) does not work as well for tech shit and vice versa (but does fine for hucking, if not moreso)...that 8.18 with, 51mm wheels and 8" trucks just doesn't feel as stable on round walls at speed :P
Stay away from Board Brand Wheels
(I'm guilty as fuck right now as I needed wanted 50mm wheels and wanted to top off for shipping; will let you know how these Darkroom wheels go ;)
Don't fall for bearing marketing.
Mini logo bearings are good enough for everyone (and most $15 dollar bearings from just about every reputable brand are decent enough); if you are going to spend money, spend it on BONES as those $40 Diamond Smoke Rings Bearings are probably shit. Bearing Spacers will prolong the life of your bearings.
Changing gear will fuck with your A-Game
(Guilty.) Find shit that works and stick with it regardless of brand (but choose carefully who you support).
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Dont pop your shields unless you get bearings for free. If you can afford Bones Swiss (Regular or 6 ball) go for them, if you can’t then stick with Bones Reds.
If you’re ever in doubt about which board you should buy, go with the BBS/ Generator board. I know some Girl shapes are good, but think long term. There’s a reason why tons of pros who didn’t have board sponsors rode flowed BBS/ Generator products & turned down the crailtap box offer.
You can replace everything on your board, but always port over your old bushings. They’re the hardest thing to break in, and they last a long while even after they look munched.
Waxing new ledges and curbs should consist of rubbrick, clear rustoleum and wax.
Wear the shoes you intend on skating for a few weeks before you actually skate them, having them broken in makes a world of difference. Don’t microwave them, bc you may have to Shoe Goo the sole back on after a few sessions and then you’re back at square one.
Don’t wax the hell out of metal coping ledges/ rails/ bars, try going faster first and see if that’s the problem.
Stretch before you skate, regardless of how old you are. You’d be surprised how easily avoidable aches and pains are if you’re thoroughly stretched out. I used to be made fun of at spots by my friends when I’d do this, but I wasn’t the one who couldn’t sleep that night due to neck/ back issues.
Don’t get drunk or high before you skate, the whole “I skate better when I’m inebriated” myth is bullshit. Not only will you be at greater risk when it comes to injuries, but it could lead to an extreme dependence down the road that’ll ruin your life. I can’t stress this one enough, don’t do it.
Low profile cup soles > vulcanized shoes, it’ll save your feet in the long run. Even if you skate vulc soles, try to wear something with support when you’re off the board. I know board feel is important, but so are feet and knees that don’t hurt in your 30’s.
Don’t read the typed descriptions of your favourite pro’s social media posts, just watch the video and keep it moving. You don’t wanna sour the enjoyment you get out of watching your fave pro bc they use their high school drop out education to lecture you on politics and vaccines.
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You seriously don't need multiple setups for multiple specific purposes (ie street setup, tranny setup, slappy setup, cruiser setup, cruiser+slappy setup, etc). To be practical, at most you just need a regular setup and a cruiser.
I fell for this before and I ended up giving hella gear away and out of money.
I have to politely disagree there. For me at least, it is hard to a tre flip on the same board that feels comfortable on 9' trannies and proper vert.
Agree. The board I'm comfortable on in bowls (8.3/8.5+ACE or 159s +54/55mm wheels) does not work as well for tech shit and vice versa (but does fine for hucking, if not moreso)...that 8.18 with, 51mm wheels and 8" trucks just doesn't feel as stable on round walls at speed :P
Sorry, I should've been more specific. I meant it more for the newer skaters that blame their equipment rather than their actual skill level. ("I've been skating for 3 weeks and I can ollie on my 8" board but can't do a axle stall first try? I need a new 9" setup instead of practicing.") For more experienced skaters, it's way more situational especially if you do both tech and tranny.
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Don’t get drunk or high before you skate, the whole “I skate better when I’m inebriated” myth is bullshit. Not only will you be at greater risk when it comes to injuries, but it could lead to an extreme dependence down the road that’ll ruin your life. I can’t stress this one enough, don’t do it.
This times 1000. Way too many middle/high school kids in my local skate scene that unironically believe they need to drink and smoke while skating in order be be validated as a skateboarder.
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Stretch before you skate, regardless of how old you are. You’d be surprised how easily avoidable aches and pains are if you’re thoroughly stretched out. I used to be made fun of at spots by my friends when I’d do this, but I wasn’t the one who couldn’t sleep that night due to neck/ back issues.
Low profile cup soles > vulcanized shoes, it’ll save your feet in the long run. Even if you skate vulc soles, try to wear something with support when you’re off the board. I know board feel is important, but so are feet and knees that don’t hurt in your 30’s.
Young and dumb applies here. I wish I was smarter about the shoes I wore when I was younger (I did for a while as I only wore B-ball high tops as 'skate' shoes were shit). And to be frank, most vulc shoes are shit. Little to no arch support, thin insoles for board feel and high heel cushioning. Terrible. There are amazing Cupsoles out there that just require a little more time to break in.
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I'm off cupsoles. Rolled my ankles in them twice this year, and had a bunch of scares but it has yet to happen in vulcs with a supportive insole. I just don't wear vulcs off the board.
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Stay away from Board Brand Wheels
(I'm guilty as fuck right now as I needed wanted 50mm wheels and wanted to top off for shipping; will let you know how these Darkroom wheels go ;)
Don't fall for bearing marketing.
Mini logo bearings are good enough for everyone (and most $15 dollar bearings from just about every reputable brand are decent enough); if you are going to spend money, spend it on BONES as those $40 Diamond Smoke Rings Bearings are probably shit. Bearing Spacers will prolong the life of your bearings.
Changing gear will fuck with your A-Game
(Guilty.) Find shit that works and stick with it regardless of brand (but choose carefully who you support).
Words of wisdom here!
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Get good at the basics. Ollie anything and everything. Manuals will improve stability/balance building muscle groups needed for that. Get consistent and find out your strengths/work on weaknesses.
Jumping down shit is really fun, but beats you up pretty bad if you are not ready.
Don't fake the funk. Just because other people are ripping really hard, don't feel the need to push far beyond your limits because theoretically it makes you look cooler in other people's eyes that you're trying such a hard trick. Tiny steps will get you there just as good as big, unnecessarily dangerous leaps.
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Don't fake your skate style,if you land stiff legged of a 3 stair kickflip then bend down all low 2 seconds after you're embarrassing yourself.
Skate fast and be loose every now and then.
Stretch
Look at the shape of a deck, and remember it for whatever board you discover as "your" shape, then graphics dont *really* matter if it's your shape and dimensions.
Skate the streets,not just the skatepark where they want you.
Wear a condom and don't do too many drugs...or any for that matter.
Get one good ledge trick.
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Could be wrong here but I don’t think cupsole vs vulc matters nearly as much as a proper insole does. I do regret the years I spent popping shields off my bearings though. I could’ve saved a shit load of money. Also, everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time.
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Don't learn flip tricks before ollies.
Go fast.
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i learned the hard way about those Spitfire Chargers. wish they made a 92-95A wheel
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Dont fall for that Krux banner, they baaaad
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Don't do Slappy's if you're young
I would disagree here. I've learned a bunch of tricks on ledges after doing them on curbs first.
Yep, I think the revival of low impact stuff is the best thing happened to skateboarding in past decade. I still remember early 00's when you got bullied for doing slappies (can't you ollie on that little curb?), no complies and boneless was not really counted as a trick etc. Dark times..
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Don’t use wd40 on your bearings.
Don’t spend an hour on a manual trick with a brand new board if you’re on a budget.
Don’t expect to ever be sponsored or send copy paste DMs asking to be sponsored by brands.
If you do insist on DMing your sponsor me sales pitch, only do it to company’s you have actually BOUGHT and ridden products from.
Don’t let others make you feel bad for riding whatever product you want. All legit brand skate product is fine enough for almost any average skater.
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please don't start or escalate physical confrontations with security guards or civilians but definitely don't attack people with your board. if you can be nice to people that's a good way to live.
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Get comfy running shoes or walking shoes to wear when you're not skating - people who wear skate shoes when they're not skating are fucking idiots. Your knees will thank you when you're 30.
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Always pop your shields.
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Get aftermarket insoles and get in the habit of stretching before you skate
THESE.
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Don’t be embarrassed to do a few minutes of a warm up exercise routine around people to warm up for skating. An active motion routine is better for warming up your body than static stretching. You can stretch after the moving exercise if you want. Stretching at the end of your session is also important and very beneficial.
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Don't do Slappy's if you're young
I would disagree here. I've learned a bunch of tricks on ledges after doing them on curbs first.
Yep, I think the revival of low impact stuff is the best thing happened to skateboarding in past decade. I still remember early 00's when you got bullied for doing slappies (can't you ollie on that little curb?), no complies and boneless was not really counted as a trick etc. Dark times..
If hipster skating is allowed, so are slappies.
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Get comfy running shoes or walking shoes to wear when you're not skating - people who wear skate shoes when they're not skating are fucking idiots. Your knees will thank you when you're 30.
But how will I tell the world that I'm a real skater?? :'(
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Get comfy running shoes or walking shoes to wear when you're not skating - people who wear skate shoes when they're not skating are fucking idiots. Your knees will thank you when you're 30.
But how will I tell the world that I'm a real skater?? :'(
With your "Ride the best and fuck the rest" t-shirt, bro!
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The Zip Zinger wheels are ironically terrible for cruisers & miniboards
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Get comfy running shoes or walking shoes to wear when you're not skating - people who wear skate shoes when they're not skating are fucking idiots. Your knees will thank you when you're 30.
But how will I tell the world that I'm a real skater?? :'(
With your "Ride the best and fuck the rest" t-shirt, bro!
Don’t forget your Thrasher hooded & Diamond flat brimmed hat. Tell everyone you meet that you used to be sponsored too, especially if it isn’t true.
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Get comfy running shoes or walking shoes to wear when you're not skating - people who wear skate shoes when they're not skating are fucking idiots. Your knees will thank you when you're 30.
But how will I tell the world that I'm a real skater?? :'(
With your "Ride the best and fuck the rest" t-shirt, bro!
Don’t forget your [Flaming black] Thrasher hooded & Diamond flat brimmed hat. Tell everyone you meet that you used to be sponsored too, especially if it isn’t true.
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Get comfy running shoes or walking shoes to wear when you're not skating - people who wear skate shoes when they're not skating are fucking idiots. Your knees will thank you when you're 30.
I'm 35 and wear skate shoes to work every day. I have straight up flintstone feet and they're actually way more comfortable for me than running or walking shoes. Actually a nice flat cupsole with a good insole is pretty much the only way my feet don't hurt at the end of the day.
Wear what's comfortable for you, whatever that is, and don't feel like a "fucking idiot" for it would be better advice.
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Wear a condom
Every single time. We know it feels worse
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Do not not use bearing spacers
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Get comfy running shoes or walking shoes to wear when you're not skating - people who wear skate shoes when they're not skating are fucking idiots. Your knees will thank you when you're 30.
I'm 35 and wear skate shoes to work every day. I have straight up flintstone feet and they're actually way more comfortable for me than running or walking shoes. Actually a nice flat cupsole with a good insole is pretty much the only way my feet don't hurt at the end of the day.
Wear what's comfortable for you, whatever that is, and don't feel like a "fucking idiot" for it would be better advice.
haha for the OP - idk where you live but a lot of people who dont skate wear skate shoes, especially vans, dunks etc.
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Do not not use bearing spacers
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You don't need 10 pairs of trucks, 4 will do.
If you find a shape or truck/deck combination you like, stick with it to minimize adjustment time between setups
Spend money on stuff that makes skateboarding less painful even if you are a young buck; proper insoles or an ankle brace
Save money on belts and rock the shoelace belt
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Don't get MOB if you plan to skate outside in cold weather. That shit will just peel off of your board when it's cold.
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Don't skate just once a week for like a 10-hour session. You will progress more if you skate consistently, such as every other day, for one to a few hours.
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Tell everybody on slap youre gay because ive noticed all the people who say theyre gay never have a negative rep because that would be a hate crime
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Don't get MOB if you plan to skate outside in cold weather. That shit will just peel off of your board when it's cold.
Never happened to me, and I skate every winter in freezing cold parking garages.
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Do not not use bearing spacers
Tell me more.
From my experience wheel are rarely made by tolerance, that way your spacers sometimes mush onto bearings when tighten up, or no matter how much you crank your shit it still has some play inside wheel. I still use them tho, just an old habit.
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Tell everybody on slap youre gay because ive noticed all the people who say theyre gay never have a negative rep because that would be a hate crime
You're not funny, you're making a shitty joke that also isn't funny.
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Gotta disagree. Flight decks have done me well, and keep me from wasting my money buying boards that get soggy.
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Don’t use wd40 on your bearings.
please explain why ?
interesting topic, but do a lil effort because if you don't explain why you recommend this or that, it's just useless information.
I know that when it comes to science, materials science, physics, etc. skaters aren't to be trusted at all.
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Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Damn, just bought Quasi
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Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Have had a Quasi for over a month,we good. Been through multiple PS Stix and haven't had a bad one...but I know the day is coming. It happens.
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Don’t use wd40 on your bearings.
please explain why ?
interesting topic, but do a lil effort because if you don't explain why you recommend this or that, it's just useless information.
I know that when it comes to science, materials science, physics, etc. skaters aren't to be trusted at all.
It's important to use a silicone-based lubricant. WD40 is hygroscopic and will attract dust and dirt.
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Don't buy Bronson's especially the raw if you're skating high impact crust.
Reds deform and they are 1000x better than the mess that I got gifted to fix.
Speed metals were a good bearing to rebuild. Do that if you're going cheaper. The even work when they are rusty as fuck
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Always pop your shields.
Pop 'em and use Windex followed with some speed cream to keep it rolling fresh.
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Pop 'em and use Windex followed with some speed cream to keep it rolling fresh.
I just did an experiment where I cleaned the bearings with simple green mix 10 to 1. Sprayed the bearing spun it took it over to the sink washed out the simple green and dirt and the bearings spin brand new. Will throw some speed cream on but just wanted to share that a mixture of simple green does wonders on bearings. Don’t be afraid of using soap and water if you dry out with IPA after.Or an air can but first you have to take a hit from the air can
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Gotta disagree. Flight decks have done me well, and keep me from wasting my money buying boards that get soggy.
Yeah I fully disagree with both of those statements as well. Haven't skated a VX but I have tried Flight, impact, and p2 and all have their advantages over a normal 7 ply. Impact is too stiff for me but if I was still 16 I'd probably love them, while Flight is a great old man investment. If Powell had better shapes I'd probably skate those most of the time, it definitely takes a little getting used to the springy pop and how thin/light they are but once you do they're great and mine still feels the same as it did day one.
Also maybe it's just me but none of my recent PS decks have shit out faster than any other brand. I'm well into the 3rd ply on one of my ScumCo PS decks and it still has tons of pop. I don't know if something changed with them or what because I used to think they sucked but after giving them a second chance last fall they've become more or less my go-to.
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Gotta disagree. Flight decks have done me well, and keep me from wasting my money buying boards that get soggy.
Yeah I fully disagree with both of those statements as well. Haven't skated a VX but I have tried Flight, impact, and p2 and all have their advantages over a normal 7 ply. Impact is too stiff for me but if I was still 16 I'd probably love them, while Flight is a great old man investment. If Powell had better shapes I'd probably skate those most of the time, it definitely takes a little getting used to the springy pop and how thin/light they are but once you do they're great and mine still feels the same as it did day one.
Also maybe it's just me but none of my recent PS decks have shit out faster than any other brand. I'm well into the 3rd ply on one of my ScumCo PS decks and it still has tons of pop. I don't know if something changed with them or what because I used to think they sucked but after giving them a second chance last fall they've become more or less my go-to.
Agreed. I've had 3 Flights. I like the tech but I need a shorter board.
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My homie who breaks boards relentlessly tried one of those VX boards and said it actually maintained its strength skating it. He just hated the shape of it.
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Don’t use wd40 on your bearings.
please explain why ?
interesting topic, but do a lil effort because if you don't explain why you recommend this or that, it's just useless information.
I know that when it comes to science, materials science, physics, etc. skaters aren't to be trusted at all.
It's important to use a silicone-based lubricant. WD40 is hygroscopic and will attract dust and dirt.
this link does a good job of explaining why not to use wd40
https://outreachskateboarding.com/wd40-to-clean-skateboard-bearings/
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Gotta disagree. Flight decks have done me well, and keep me from wasting my money buying boards that get soggy.
7ply maple has been the industry standard because lots of skateboarders are not interested in change or trying something new or getting used to something new.
Technology decks are often “better” than 7ply maple boards in potentially lots of ways but for lots of us our personal preference Is 7ply maple because that’s what we have always skated and what we grew up skating and often a human mind will not want to risk change or want to take the time to get used to something new even tho it can have its benefits.
I would like to try a flight deck but I’m def not gonna skate it for a few months no matter how strong it is. I just don’t like skating the same board for longer than 3-4 weeks, same thing with shoes.
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Gotta disagree. Flight decks have done me well, and keep me from wasting my money buying boards that get soggy.
Technology decks are often “better” than 7ply maple boards in potentially lots of ways but for lots of us our personal preference Is 7ply maple because that’s what we have always skated and what we grew up skating and often a human mind will not want to risk change or want to take the time to get used to something new even tho it can have its benefits.
I would like to try a flight deck but I’m def not gonna skate it for a few months no matter how strong it is. I just don’t like skating the same board for longer than 3-4 weeks, same thing with shoes.
In my experience they will last about 6ish weeks of heavy skating before it starts to flex. Then it is like a springboard. I still prefer that to a soggy deck.
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My homie who breaks boards relentlessly tried one of those VX boards and said it actually maintained its strength skating it. He just hated the shape of it.
Yeah that's pretty much precisely why I only skate my flight when I'm having an "old man legs" day. It's one of those generic medium concave tapered popsicle shapes that seems like they were trying to cater to the greatest number of people. It's definitely functional but boring and I don't really like small pointy noses.
I checked out one of the VX last time I went to the shop and the shape looked decent but it was an 8.5. I also thought the 8.25 x 31.8 wide tip shape looked pretty good, if they make a VX in that shape I'll probably end up getting one at some point.
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Give me a Flight Deck with an FA/Hockey shape or DLX Full SE shape, and ill make the switch ASAP
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Don’t use wd40 on your bearings.
please explain why ?
interesting topic, but do a lil effort because if you don't explain why you recommend this or that, it's just useless information.
I know that when it comes to science, materials science, physics, etc. skaters aren't to be trusted at all.
WD stands for water displacing. Wd40 is not a lubricant, it is meant to solvate rust and corrosion in moving metal pieces that have seized.
Typical fucking engineer, too lazy to use google.
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Don’t use wd40 on your bearings.
please explain why ?
interesting topic, but do a lil effort because if you don't explain why you recommend this or that, it's just useless information.
I know that when it comes to science, materials science, physics, etc. skaters aren't to be trusted at all.
It's important to use a silicone-based lubricant. WD40 is hygroscopic and will attract dust and dirt.
there is that yes, i know it's not a lubricant
it s ok to use for cleaning the grime, everyone has a can
You wash correctly after that, dry and add some lubricant.
this link does a good job of explaining why not to use wd40
https://outreachskateboarding.com/wd40-to-clean-skateboard-bearings/
this guy only says he uses WD40 the wrong way
WD stands for water displacing. Wd40 is not a lubricant, it is meant to solvate rust and corrosion in moving metal pieces that have seized.
Typical fucking engineer, too lazy to use google.
i'm fine with google, we're here to discuss, seems you missed that and the nuance of the topic. i just wanted johnes to be more precise.
Johnes meant that one should not use WD 40 as a lubricant
At the same time, cleaning bearings with it is fine with a proper protocol.
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I think BALARGUE works for WD40 or something.
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I missed nothing, I was just being an asshole.
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Don’t pop the shields.
Always pop your shields.
Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
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Get aftermarket insoles and get in the habit of stretching before you skate
Stretch, stretch, stretch!!
10 broken ankles, and some severely mangled wrists and knees later, I finally started and regret not doing it my whole life.
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Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
Haha! To each their own I suppose. I use to pop my shields for years but now I just keep them on now to extend the longevity.
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Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
Pop the shields on half of your bearings?
How else will you be able to make everyone happy?
Is my logic not sound?
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You don't need 10 pairs of trucks, 4 1 will do.
If you find a shape or truck/deck combination you like, stick with it to minimize adjustment time between setups
Spend money on stuff that makes skateboarding less painful even if you are a young buck; proper insoles or an ankle brace
Save money on belts and rock the shoelace belt
I'd be wary about adopting ankle braces unless you absolutely have to. If you just got off a roll, you're better off recovering properly, doing physio and skating a stable shoe as opposed to developing a reliance on a brace. If you absolutely have to, its best to stop wearing it as soon as you're able to. Proper insoles defs a must though.
Not sure about the shoelace belt either, especially if your pants are somewhat baggy and you don't want them to bunch up. A flexible belt that actually as wide as the belt loops is so much better to skate in imo.
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Do not not use bearing spacers
Tell me more.
I think there's benefits of using spacers even if tolerances aren't strict and you don't crank all the way down. I had some spacers from a old set of swiss that I ended up using in several sets of bearings, not cranked down, some play in the wheel. After a while you could see the wear on both sides of the spacers which I think suggests that its still limiting the extent of the side distortion on the bearings (from powerslides etc) to some extent... maybe helps a little bit? definitely can't hurt though
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Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
I pop them to maintain longevity.
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Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
I pop them to maintain longevity.
I keep them on until they start to get slow, then pop em and then they get a second wind
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My homie who breaks boards relentlessly tried one of those VX boards and said it actually maintained its strength skating it. He just hated the shape of it.
Yeah that's pretty much precisely why I only skate my flight when I'm having an "old man legs" day. It's one of those generic medium concave tapered popsicle shapes that seems like they were trying to cater to the greatest number of people. It's definitely functional but boring and I don't really like small pointy noses.
I checked out one of the VX last time I went to the shop and the shape looked decent but it was an 8.5. I also thought the 8.25 x 31.8 wide tip shape looked pretty good, if they make a VX in that shape I'll probably end up getting one at some point.
Check out the new vx decks and also the creature decks tend to hve wider noses and also have vx decks
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Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
Pop the shields on half of your bearings?
How else will you be able to make everyone happy?
Is my logic not sound?
Your logic is sound, sir...nothing but sound.
No, I'm kidding. That's a Ben Franklin quote, he and I are both major assholes. I'll take it upon myself to pop 8/16 of my shields.
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You don't need 10 pairs of trucks, 4 1 will do.
If you find a shape or truck/deck combination you like, stick with it to minimize adjustment time between setups
Spend money on stuff that makes skateboarding less painful even if you are a young buck; proper insoles or an ankle brace
Save money on belts and rock the shoelace belt
I'd be wary about adopting ankle braces unless you absolutely have to. If you just got off a roll, you're better off recovering properly, doing physio and skating a stable shoe as opposed to developing a reliance on a brace. If you absolutely have to, its best to stop wearing it as soon as you're able to. Proper insoles defs a must though.
Not sure about the shoelace belt either, especially if your pants are somewhat baggy and you don't want them to bunch up. A flexible belt that actually as wide as the belt loops is so much better to skate in imo.
For sure physio and conditioning is #1 by far, using a brace before the ankle properly heals is a recipe for disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLJHPC-nEE
I came across this video and the loss of proprioception (perception or awareness of the position and movement of the body, see 4:30) coming from ankle injuries. If the brace helps that I'm willing to try it out and couple it with my regular strength and conditioning
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What would you like to warn other skaters about regarding equipment?
What warning labels should exist?
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SLAPPY on Bones Rough Riders or Spitfire Chargers.
They are amazing cruising wheels, but will chunk heavily if you impact anything.
DO NOT USE CLEAR GRIP on high wear areas on your deck.
I wish I had read this two weeks ago :,(
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You don't need 10 pairs of trucks, 4 1 will do.
If you find a shape or truck/deck combination you like, stick with it to minimize adjustment time between setups
Spend money on stuff that makes skateboarding less painful even if you are a young buck; proper insoles or an ankle brace
Save money on belts and rock the shoelace belt
I'd be wary about adopting ankle braces unless you absolutely have to. If you just got off a roll, you're better off recovering properly, doing physio and skating a stable shoe as opposed to developing a reliance on a brace. If you absolutely have to, its best to stop wearing it as soon as you're able to. Proper insoles defs a must though.
Not sure about the shoelace belt either, especially if your pants are somewhat baggy and you don't want them to bunch up. A flexible belt that actually as wide as the belt loops is so much better to skate in imo.
For sure physio and conditioning is #1 by far, using a brace before the ankle properly heals is a recipe for disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLJHPC-nEE
I came across this video and the loss of proprioception (perception or awareness of the position and movement of the body, see 4:30) coming from ankle injuries. If the brace helps that I'm willing to try it out and couple it with my regular strength and conditioning
I'm just going to spit in that some people are more prone to ankle injuries then others.
I cant find the study on it as we speak, but its true. Dont we all have that friend who roll their ankle all the effin time? :D
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You don't need 10 pairs of trucks, 4 1 will do.
If you find a shape or truck/deck combination you like, stick with it to minimize adjustment time between setups
Spend money on stuff that makes skateboarding less painful even if you are a young buck; proper insoles or an ankle brace
Save money on belts and rock the shoelace belt
I'd be wary about adopting ankle braces unless you absolutely have to. If you just got off a roll, you're better off recovering properly, doing physio and skating a stable shoe as opposed to developing a reliance on a brace. If you absolutely have to, its best to stop wearing it as soon as you're able to. Proper insoles defs a must though.
Not sure about the shoelace belt either, especially if your pants are somewhat baggy and you don't want them to bunch up. A flexible belt that actually as wide as the belt loops is so much better to skate in imo.
For sure physio and conditioning is #1 by far, using a brace before the ankle properly heals is a recipe for disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLJHPC-nEE
I came across this video and the loss of proprioception (perception or awareness of the position and movement of the body, see 4:30) coming from ankle injuries. If the brace helps that I'm willing to try it out and couple it with my regular strength and conditioning
I'm just going to spit in that some people are more prone to ankle injuries then others.
I cant find the study on as we speak, but its true. Dont we all have that friend who roll their ankle all the effin time? :D
Yes, having flat feet does make you more prone to ankle injuries:
https://www.muellersportsmed.com/blog/post/injuries-caused-by-exercising-with-flat-feet
While most people with flat feet grapple with minor aches and pains, any sort of intensive athletic activity puts additional stress on the flawed foot to hip alignment and can put you at a higher risk for sports related injuries. Not every athlete with flat feet is accident-prone, but some experience repeated problems with the same few conditions.
Ankle Sprains - Flat feet allow your ankle to roll quite far inward while standing flat on the ground. This may seem like a flexibility bonus until it rolls in too far when your landing from a jump or a running step, at which point it promptly becomes a sprain. People with flat feet may sprain their ankles much more often than others.
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What would you like to warn other skaters about regarding equipment?
What warning labels should exist?
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SLAPPY on Bones Rough Riders or Spitfire Chargers.
They are amazing cruising wheels, but will chunk heavily if you impact anything.
DO NOT USE CLEAR GRIP on high wear areas on your deck.
I contacted Powell last week and asked for one new ‘white wheel’ cause I have a white set and Kam at Powell said if he could not find a white wheel he would send a new set of whatever color is in stock. Just send a picture.
[email protected]
They really need to warn people as Powell should know that most street skaters will try and slappy at some point.
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What would you like to warn other skaters about regarding equipment?
What warning labels should exist?
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SLAPPY on Bones Rough Riders or Spitfire Chargers.
They are amazing cruising wheels, but will chunk heavily if you impact anything.
DO NOT USE CLEAR GRIP on high wear areas on your deck.
I contacted Powell last week and asked for one new ‘white wheel’ cause I have a white set and Kam at Powell said if he could not find a white wheel he would send a new set of whatever color is in stock. Just send a picture.
[email protected]
They really need to warn people as Powell should know that most street skaters will try and slappy at some point.
That was exactly the point of this thread. To warn people about shit like that.
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What would you like to warn other skaters about regarding equipment?
What warning labels should exist?
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SLAPPY on Bones Rough Riders or Spitfire Chargers.
They are amazing cruising wheels, but will chunk heavily if you impact anything.
DO NOT USE CLEAR GRIP on high wear areas on your deck.
I contacted Powell last week and asked for one new ‘white wheel’ cause I have a white set and Kam at Powell said if he could not find a white wheel he would send a new set of whatever color is in stock. Just send a picture.
[email protected]
They really need to warn people as Powell should know that most street skaters will try and slappy at some point.
That was exactly the point of this thread. To warn people about shit like that.
You want Powell to warn people that soft wheels will get destroyed if you do grinds on rough concrete. Sounds about right for the times we are currently in.
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I’ve skated for 33 years, and never had that happen before. So yes.
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My warnings:
Don't pop your bearing shields, unless you actually plan on cleaning them somewhat regularly. In fact, we all should probably clean our bearings more often, regardless, but that's a different topic.
Don't try to skate something slightly out of your comfort zone/skill level with gear you aren't comfortable in/broken in yet. Brand new shoes, new bushings, etc. unless you know how they will operate as new and are ready for it.
Don't by graphic grip unless you know you'll enjoy looking down at it every session.
Don't use Allen hardware, as most people don't have an Allen key when on a session if you need to tighten a screw but they likely have a Phillips screw driver. That is, unless you plan to have an Allen key with you all the time.
Don't buy Bronsons. They're not worth the marketing/price. They are average at best, if even that.
Krux trucks. Just no, like Off said.
When gripping a board and doing lines/cut outs, etc. think about where you do all your tricks and where you NEED grip under your feet. This is important!
Don't compare your skating to someone else's, even if you have a similar amount of time skating as them. Instead, look to your fellow skaters as inspiration to learn from them. Maybe they have something you don't, but you may also have something they don't, so sharing/learning from each other is a better outlook!
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Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
You’re in Manitoba, yes? I’ve never been, but if there’s lots of leftover gravel, dust, and salt on the streets from winter, you’d benefit from keeping shields on.
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Get good at the basics. Ollie anything and everything. Manuals will improve stability/balance building muscle groups needed for that. Get consistent and find out your strengths/work on weaknesses.
This. Nearly every skater in my day was a reject with daddy issues. That's fine; all the unnecessary injuries we suffered as a result were not. Some road rash and a few wilsons are inevitable and you have to just go for it. Trying to do things you're not ready for is just destroying yourself for your friends' amusement - and that true friend who drove you to the hospital? Not a great day for that dude. Everyone always says "just go faster" - yes, a lot of tricks require a certain speed, but just going faster will not magically land those tricks. You have to get really good at skating fast first. You have to be as comfortable with bailing at 30 mph as you are at 5 mph before you're trying tricks at 30 mph. It's not about mastering the trick then "go faster", it's about mastering the speed and then see what tricks you can pull off.
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Don't do Slappy's if you're young
I would disagree here. I've learned a bunch of tricks on ledges after doing them on curbs first.
Yep, I think the revival of low impact stuff is the best thing happened to skateboarding in past decade. I still remember early 00's when you got bullied for doing slappies (can't you ollie on that little curb?), no complies and boneless was not really counted as a trick etc. Dark times..
If hipster skating is allowed, so are slappies.
What is hipster skating?
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Tell everybody on slap youre gay because ive noticed all the people who say theyre gay never have a negative rep because that would be a hate crime
You're not funny, you're making a shitty joke that also isn't funny.
I don't think he's joking. I think he's just making an observation.
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Gotta disagree. Flight decks have done me well, and keep me from wasting my money buying boards that get soggy.
Yeah I fully disagree with both of those statements as well. Haven't skated a VX but I have tried Flight, impact, and p2 and all have their advantages over a normal 7 ply. Impact is too stiff for me but if I was still 16 I'd probably love them, while Flight is a great old man investment. If Powell had better shapes I'd probably skate those most of the time, it definitely takes a little getting used to the springy pop and how thin/light they are but once you do they're great and mine still feels the same as it did day one.
Also maybe it's just me but none of my recent PS decks have shit out faster than any other brand. I'm well into the 3rd ply on one of my ScumCo PS decks and it still has tons of pop. I don't know if something changed with them or what because I used to think they sucked but after giving them a second chance last fall they've become more or less my go-to.
For some reason I thought scumco used pennswood
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Don’t buy into deck tech, whether it be bonite, featherlite or vertical plies; 7 ply maple has been the industry standard for 30+ years for a reason.
Only by a ps stix board if you intend to skate it for exactly 13 days!
Gotta disagree. Flight decks have done me well, and keep me from wasting my money buying boards that get soggy.
Yeah I fully disagree with both of those statements as well. Haven't skated a VX but I have tried Flight, impact, and p2 and all have their advantages over a normal 7 ply. Impact is too stiff for me but if I was still 16 I'd probably love them, while Flight is a great old man investment. If Powell had better shapes I'd probably skate those most of the time, it definitely takes a little getting used to the springy pop and how thin/light they are but once you do they're great and mine still feels the same as it did day one.
Also maybe it's just me but none of my recent PS decks have shit out faster than any other brand. I'm well into the 3rd ply on one of my ScumCo PS decks and it still has tons of pop. I don't know if something changed with them or what because I used to think they sucked but after giving them a second chance last fall they've become more or less my go-to.
For some reason I thought scumco used pennswood
They switched woodshop sometime ago, but I think they still do some runs via pennswood?
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Get good at the basics. Ollie anything and everything. Manuals will improve stability/balance building muscle groups needed for that. Get consistent and find out your strengths/work on weaknesses.
This. Nearly every skater in my day was a reject with daddy issues. That's fine; all the unnecessary injuries we suffered as a result were not. Some road rash and a few wilsons are inevitable and you have to just go for it. Trying to do things you're not ready for is just destroying yourself for your friends' amusement - and that true friend who drove you to the hospital? Not a great day for that dude. Everyone always says "just go faster" - yes, a lot of tricks require a certain speed, but just going faster will not magically land those tricks. You have to get really good at skating fast first. You have to be as comfortable with bailing at 30 mph as you are at 5 mph before you're trying tricks at 30 mph. It's not about mastering the trick then "go faster", it's about mastering the speed and then see what tricks you can pull off.
good comments about speed and going faster. it is a whole new ballgame. and certainly takes comfort with being able to build up to a faster speed while popping. i struggle with that
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Tell everybody on slap youre gay because ive noticed all the people who say theyre gay never have a negative rep because that would be a hate crime
You're not funny, you're making a shitty joke that also isn't funny.
I don't think he's joking. I think he's just making an observation.
Is “DA BIG BODY BENZ” a Sam Hyde reference? If yes, then your post makes sense to me even though it’s not universally true, it seems to exclusively apply to GAY. I don’t think it has anything to do with him being gay though, I think it’s basically due to the fact that he’s not combative or argumentative & mostly posts clever quips & jokes.
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Warning : do not have sex before the sesh. You might get noodle legged
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Warning : do not have sex before the sesh. You might get noodle legged
amen
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When in doubt, just use a firehose song
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What would you like to warn other skaters about regarding equipment?
What warning labels should exist?
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SLAPPY on Bones Rough Riders or Spitfire Chargers.
They are amazing cruising wheels, but will chunk heavily if you impact anything.
DO NOT USE CLEAR GRIP on high wear areas on your deck.
I contacted Powell last week and asked for one new ‘white wheel’ cause I have a white set and Kam at Powell said if he could not find a white wheel he would send a new set of whatever color is in stock. Just send a picture.
[email protected]
They really need to warn people as Powell should know that most street skaters will try and slappy at some point.
Thanks for the tip! I'll shoot him an email
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lol 30 mph
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Goddamnit, do I pop my shields or do I not pop my shields!?
You’re in Manitoba, yes? I’ve never been, but if there’s lots of leftover gravel, dust, and salt on the streets from winter, you’d benefit from keeping shields on.
I am, good memory! There's a shitload of all that shit still festering on the streets. I can't enjoy fresh black griptape for five minutes at a supposedly clean skatepark before it gets dusted to hell. I've actually never popped my shields before, but I'll be keeping them on for sure.
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Dont keep the wheels in the same orientation all year long.
Rotate and flip them around every now and then. Else you get the famous 1-2 wheels that are smaller then the rest, causing imbalance. It can be pretty severe too. I've had 1 wheel that was 44mm, the rest was around 48-49mm.
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don't install instagram
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don't install instagram
or if you do, don’t follow any of your childhood heroes ... the exception of course being Chico
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Warning : do not have sex before the sesh. You might get noodle legged
amen
Nah. A good dynamic tantra session before skating is where it's at. Get's you all loose and relaxed to shred the gnar.
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Don't walk to your spot...skate!
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I think BALARGUE works for WD40 or something.
ahah just wanted to cancel WD40 for lubrification and state that it's fine for cleaning
I missed nothing, I was just being an asshole.
you triggered the engineer in me
<3
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New stuff isn't magically going to make you a better skater. It might make you worse, however.
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Don't walk to your spot...skate!
I was going to but I had a carton of eggs and 2 burritos in my backpack, wasn't going to risk dinner.
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or if you do, don’t follow any of your childhood heroes ... the exception of course being Chico
Chico is one of the few that IGs frequently and gracefully. (Mostly)
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Don't walk to your spot...skate!
I was going to but I had a carton of eggs and 2 burritos in my backpack, wasn't going to risk dinner.
I'll allow it...if you share
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My suggestion is that if you find the right setup, whatever setup makes you skate your best, then don’t change any of it. Old saying, “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” applies to your setup. Stick with what works (board size, shape, trucks, wheels, shoes, etc).
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Warning : do not have sex before the sesh. You might get noodle legged
Sex before skating has given me some of the best and most productive sessions of my life.
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Same.
I'd say don't jerk it before you work it. Wanking made me skate like a wanker.
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Dont keep the wheels in the same orientation all year long.
Rotate and flip them around every now and then. Else you get the famous 1-2 wheels that are smaller then the rest, causing imbalance. It can be pretty severe too. I've had 1 wheel that was 44mm, the rest was around 48-49mm.
Preach. Tell it to the masses! I got heat for doin that once ona sesh. But I'm like regular maintenance is a thing. You rotate yer trucks ever?
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Our crew has jokingly called that phenomenon “Riders Edge” since we were teenagers
Don’t buy shoes online that you’ve never skated or worn before. I have a lot of shoes that don’t really fit right due to sizing inconsistencie. Some just don’t work with my feet even when they’re the right size
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For some reason I thought scumco used pennswood
They used PS on the last run of pro decks but they also put out two batches of old graphics on Pennswood last month just so shops had something to sell since covid delayed the production of the summer line. The impression I got from talking to people around here was that they're switching to PS for the pro models and main seasonal releases but will still be doing smaller runs (logo decks and stuff like that) on Pennswood.
Another warning - Control wood. You'd think being the land of good maple that Canadian woodshops would make great boards but I've tried two and hated them both. Shape was pretty nice but it was just dead wood. No matter what I tried I couldn't get anything resembling good pop out of either of them. Ended up giving both away to kids.
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Tell everybody on slap youre gay because ive noticed all the people who say theyre gay never have a negative rep because that would be a hate crime
You're not funny, you're making a shitty joke that also isn't funny.
I don't think he's joking. I think he's just making an observation.
An accurate observation
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My biggest point of advice to new skaters is practice simply riding the board more than anything. The more you know how to feel and control your board regardless of size or shape, the more comfortable and natural it will feel to try tricks. That’s why all these park kids look like ass doing the hardest tricks. More important to know how to ride and maneuver. Then the way you approach an obstacle or new take you have on it becomes the trick in and of itself.
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Don’t buy shoes online that you’ve never skated or worn before. I have a lot of shoes that don’t really fit right due to sizing inconsistencie. Some just don’t work with my feet even when they’re the right size
A sad fact of life, one that I must still absorb.
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My biggest point of advice to new skaters is practice simply riding the board more than anything. The more you know how to feel and control your board regardless of size or shape, the more comfortable and natural it will feel to try tricks. That’s why all these park kids look like ass doing the hardest tricks. More important to know how to ride and maneuver. Then the way you approach an obstacle or new take you have on it becomes the trick in and of itself.
I’ve been trying to tell this to people for years, but I think it’s easier said than done, especially with younger kids. Currently trying to teach it to my wife... she kinda gets it though as she did martial arts for so long and most martial arts promote the idea that you should be really really good at the basics.
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Don’t buy shoes online that you’ve never skated or worn before. I have a lot of shoes that don’t really fit right due to sizing inconsistencie. Some just don’t work with my feet even when they’re the right size
A sad fact of life, one that I must still absorb.
Guilty as charged. Bought a pair of adidas Busenits online for $25 a half size smaller than usual. Regretted the walk home since they are very pointy and I have wide feet. Sticking my hard orthopedic insoles in them for a couple of days to see if I can stretch them out.
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Don’t buy shoes online that you’ve never skated or worn before. I have a lot of shoes that don’t really fit right due to sizing inconsistencie. Some just don’t work with my feet even when they’re the right size
A sad fact of life, one that I must still absorb.
Guilty as charged. Bought a pair of adidas Busenits online for $25 a half size smaller than usual. Regretted the walk home since they are very pointy and I have wide feet. Sticking my hard orthopedic insoles in them for a couple of days to see if I can stretch them out.
What I did with small shoes was putting on 3 pairs of socks and putting the shoes on and using a hair dryer. 1 minute each foot. 3-5 rounds. Worked like a charm. Got a 8.5 foot to work on a 7.5 shoe
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Don’t buy shoes online that you’ve never skated or worn before. I have a lot of shoes that don’t really fit right due to sizing inconsistencie. Some just don’t work with my feet even when they’re the right size
A sad fact of life, one that I must still absorb.
Guilty as charged. Bought a pair of adidas Busenits online for $25 a half size smaller than usual. Regretted the walk home since they are very pointy and I have wide feet. Sticking my hard orthopedic insoles in them for a couple of days to see if I can stretch them out.
Put a ziplock bag in the shoe and fill it up it with water, then pop them in the freezer for a day or two. Works for me atleast.