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Title: Independent 159’s
Post by: animalflesh on August 03, 2023, 11:20:11 AM
There’s a lot of truck sizes and they’re all great for their own purposes

I think Indy 159s are the best truck ever if you want to skate all terrain and ride anything from an 8.5 pop to a 9.5 shape

Who else only rides 159s
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on August 03, 2023, 11:35:51 AM
My first set of 159s were the first trucks I grinded to axle.

I've rebuilt them 3-4 times cause the hanger and baseplate just won't die.

It's too bad they're a bit shakey to have as my daily driver, cause no other trucks I've rode since then live up to those Indy bois
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 03, 2023, 11:40:30 AM
I agree. 8.75" is the magical axle width.

But its Ace 60s and Thunder 151s for me.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Paco Supreme on August 03, 2023, 01:00:13 PM
I’m a recent convert to the 159 but I’m so glad I beefed up my truck width
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: schralp pal on August 03, 2023, 01:19:45 PM
8.5 popsicle
159 hollow standards
is my forever home - ATV perfection.

Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Sedition on August 03, 2023, 10:42:13 PM
My main ride and 8.25 with 144s...

However, I also have a DLX 8.75 with 159s, and yeah, that things is a bit tank-ish, but it just feels so sweet.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: munchbox on August 04, 2023, 02:25:53 AM
I agree. 8.75" is the magical axle width.

But its Ace 60s and Thunder 151s venture 6.1s for me.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: tuesday on August 04, 2023, 07:36:29 AM
team 8.75 axle & 8.5 deck
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Fakie backsideflip on August 04, 2023, 11:56:06 AM
team 8.75 axle & 8.5 deck

I’m riding 159’s on a 8.38 and it still feels great
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: logjammin on August 05, 2023, 11:09:05 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/pfhwM9g/PXL-20230802-152427384-3.jpg)

Recently put some 159 standards on my Ace classic baseplates so I didn't have to go buy wider trucks and it works perfectly. I'm going to grind these all the way down. Love the extra hanger space without it being too wide. Also, they fit great on an 8.25 I just had to put on some 54mm radials cause all my other wheels stuck out too much.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Ok on October 09, 2023, 08:22:12 AM
i skated 159s a fair amount, even on 8.25.
they are my favorite indy. something about the height to width ratio.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 10, 2023, 06:42:31 AM
Stuck a pair on my newly setup quasi 9.0 and for some reason the front of the board felt really heavy, hoping it’s got more to do with the deck than the trucks …
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: GBLange on October 12, 2023, 06:36:01 PM
Skating the standard 159 and mindy 159
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: spooky electric on October 12, 2023, 11:42:02 PM
my main setup is 8.25 with 149s

but i recently bought some 60mm dragons and put them on a spare setup i have that is a 9 with 159 hollow forged i've had for quite a while. since having those wheels, i've been skating that board a lot more and I will say that I do love how the trucks feel. as somebody else said, "tankish" for sure, but pretty sweet!
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Crust on November 10, 2023, 04:33:26 PM
I’m a recent convert to the 159 but I’m so glad I beefed up my truck width

This. I am riding a 9 inch board with 63MM Spitfires and 159 Indys. I am not into super tech stuff, so I really enjoy all the sturdiness and room that comes with the bigger setup. The 159s feel solid.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Ok on December 28, 2023, 06:17:13 PM
i’ve been really trying to not buy some indy 159s
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 31, 2023, 06:16:04 PM
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I found a use for my Radial Full 54 mm wheels, as they were just a bit wide on the 149s for my liking, but everything works just nicely on 159s on a white eagle with that whole setup.

Almost works too well and I could get really comfortable riding that, more so than 8.38 or 8.5 boards.


Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Ok on January 01, 2024, 09:46:48 PM
.

I found a use for my Radial Full 54 mm wheels, as they were just a bit wide on the 149s for my liking, but everything works just nicely on 159s on a white eagle with that whole setup.

Almost works too well and I could get really comfortable riding that, more so than 8.38 or 8.5 boards.

for me, it’s something about the turn on the 159s, a little slower/more stable, and i love the pop.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Coastal Fever on January 12, 2024, 07:14:55 PM
I had my 159s on an 8.75 popsicle, but I finally snapped it, and put them on an 8.5.  As others have stated, this may be the perfect setup.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Ok on January 18, 2024, 07:17:20 PM
just staring at 159ers setup’s. t-funk, and possibly pedro. bakkel.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: schralp pal on January 22, 2024, 11:12:12 AM
Do you think GT rides 159s? Peter Hewitt?
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Frank and Fred on January 22, 2024, 11:17:06 AM
Hewitt def does. He posts his set ups on IG frequently.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 22, 2024, 01:53:56 PM
Do you think GT rides 159s? Peter Hewitt?

Hewitt def does. He posts his set ups on IG frequently.


I thought Grant was on 149s, but Peter Hewitt on ti 159s on the 8.38 size boards always tripped me out.

Setting up that exact combination with some 56 mm Classics just looks so weird, even with no washers, but that is what he rides and almost every time he posts, someone asks if the trucks are too wide and he replies Nope or Can't see the wheels or something similar, but I can see that being a very stable big bowl and vert type setup.


This was his most recent board setup post, going to the shorter 8.4 but still with ti 159s and 57 mm Radials.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CzMFhBRLGKQ/



Edit:


His older post with those questions, on the setup I copied.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CbDqg9rPAut/


Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: schralp pal on January 22, 2024, 02:24:48 PM
Makes me wanna try the dlx 8.38 with 159s...
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Frank and Fred on January 22, 2024, 07:40:10 PM
I bet it works really well for Hewitt. Smaller person who skates big old transitions.

159s really are a great truck.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Ok on January 22, 2024, 08:47:51 PM
hewitt looks fantastic on board. just a cool style.

i’m skating an 8.38, with 6.1s, and the wider trucks have some advantages: mostly handle speed better, and have a wider base so ollie’s feel nicer.

my best skating was on small small boards, 159s feel ridiculous to me, after spending time obsessing over 7.5-7.75 boards for the better part of my youth.
i’m not sure why, but i cannot shake that they just feel ‘right’ for an indy. i need to qualify that by noting that i have never got on with 149s. the only indy 149s i had were the koston ones, right when stage 11 came out, and some folks felt they were a little more….stage 10.5. they didn’t feel good, but im a big big baby. if i’m going to skate indys, 159s just feel right, even though my baby legged treflip attempts just crumble.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: sharkin on January 23, 2024, 10:54:45 AM
All the DLX 8.38s I’ve had measured wider but I’ve done the 8.38 + 159 and it’s pretty nice. Very stable and there’s not a lot of hot rod. Don’t pack speed rings in to push the wheels out. you’ll get some extra axle, but it’s all good.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: schralp pal on January 23, 2024, 11:11:50 AM
All the DLX 8.38s I’ve had measured wider but I’ve done the 8.38 + 159 and it’s pretty nice. Very stable and there’s not a lot of hot rod. Don’t pack speed rings in to push the wheels out. you’ll get some extra axle, but it’s all good.

Yes, and 14.5 wb is my sweet spot. Gonna go for it.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2024, 03:21:14 PM
pretty sure Dane Brady can be seen on 159s. style god.

Wimer also a 159er. not ‘my guy’, as far as style goes, but his flip tricks are top tier.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: P.rossi on January 24, 2024, 07:19:03 AM
I think 159’s are stage 10, great stage so far
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Frank and Fred on January 24, 2024, 08:24:59 AM
The current 159s came out during the transition from stage 10 to stage 11. They were actually the first stage 11s to drop but weren't called 11s until Stage 11 officially became a thing.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Ok on January 24, 2024, 08:30:26 AM
I think 159’s are stage 10, great stage so far

i’m unclear on your meaning. stage 10s were shorter than stage 11 (53.5 vs 55). would you expound?

also taking recommendations for decks with the 159s: iso smallest possible popsicle.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: rawbertson. on January 24, 2024, 04:01:15 PM
My first set of 159s were the first trucks I grinded to axle.


Same actually
I still have em
But I also moved on sadly ;(
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 24, 2024, 04:28:12 PM
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I think 159’s are stage 10, great stage so far
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i’m unclear on your meaning. stage 10s were shorter than stage 11 (53.5 vs 55). would you expound?

also taking recommendations for decks with the 159s: iso smallest possible popsicle.


The current 159s came out during the transition from stage 10 to stage 11. They were actually the first stage 11s to drop but weren't called 11s until Stage 11 officially became a thing.


Yeah this was what confused a lot of people.

Stage IX were the computer designed trucks, but only in the smaller sizes, so 129 and 139.  The 149, 159 and 169 were still a big old clunky version of the hanger which almost looked weird on the newer baseplates but that was their thing.

Then Stage X was just the upgrade to a solid baseplate again, but as they were working on fixes for the wider trucks, the Stage X v2 was as Frank said, the first of the prototypes for Stage XI.

I just bought some new old stock of the v2 159s recently and they are awesome, compared to the other older stages and models in the wider sizes.

Not sure about timeframe for any of this, but I think it was only a year between the v2 and then all the Stage XI variants.


If it was 2003 for Stage IX, then 2009 for Stage X and 2012 / 2013 for Stage XI, maybe 2011 or so was when these ones came out in limited quantities with minimal info on them at the time, as far as I know.


Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: jums on January 24, 2024, 06:24:46 PM
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Do you think GT rides 159s? Peter Hewitt?
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Hewitt def does. He posts his set ups on IG frequently.
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I thought Grant was on 149s, but Peter Hewitt on ti 159s on the 8.38 size boards always tripped me out.

Setting up that exact combination with some 56 mm Classics just looks so weird, even with no washers, but that is what he rides and almost every time he posts, someone asks if the trucks are too wide and he replies Nope or Can't see the wheels or something similar, but I can see that being a very stable big bowl and vert type setup.


This was his most recent board setup post, going to the shorter 8.4 but still with ti 159s and 57 mm Radials.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CzMFhBRLGKQ/



Edit:


His older post with those questions, on the setup I copied.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CbDqg9rPAut/

Hewitt’s setup would drive a slap gear head mad.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: P.rossi on January 24, 2024, 10:12:22 PM
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I think 159’s are stage 10, great stage so far
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i’m unclear on your meaning. stage 10s were shorter than stage 11 (53.5 vs 55). would you expound?

also taking recommendations for decks with the 159s: iso smallest possible popsicle.

I remember the hanger was stage 10 and turnt into 11 just because of the forged baseplate, I will check
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Frank and Fred on January 25, 2024, 08:34:29 AM
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I think 159’s are stage 10, great stage so far
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i’m unclear on your meaning. stage 10s were shorter than stage 11 (53.5 vs 55). would you expound?

also taking recommendations for decks with the 159s: iso smallest possible popsicle.
[close]

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I remember the hanger was stage 10 and turnt into 11 just because of the forged baseplate, I will check

Nope. As mentioned above it was purely a timing thing with the rerelease of 159s coming-out  just before Stage 11. 159s had been absent from Indy's line up for Stage 10 and came out right at the very end. Indy essentially premiered Stage 11s with 159s but they were still called Stage 10s until the other sizes were ready.
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: WashingtonNECKTIE on January 25, 2024, 09:22:40 AM
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My first set of 159s were the first trucks I grinded to axle.

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Same actually
I still have em
But I also moved on sadly ;(

Trying to keep em alive for a while by running em on the beer cruiser... too much of a landmark for me..

its kinda like parading a corpse around, but i can't let go!
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: rawbertson. on January 26, 2024, 03:36:35 PM
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My first set of 159s were the first trucks I grinded to axle.

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Same actually
I still have em
But I also moved on sadly ;(
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Trying to keep em alive for a while by running em on the beer cruiser... too much of a landmark for me..

its kinda like parading a corpse around, but i can't let go!

Yep that’s what i have them on, so they are still in the rotation

Is there any reason to go any size bigger? Imo not really

And also if you are gonna ride this size of Indy I feel  like you might as well go standard and get the full height. Forged hollow is a lot more practical though which is what I have. I guess depends what kind of wheels you want to run. 56mm with forged works pretty well.


In a few years I wanna set up Indy 159 standard with fat full 60mm f4 97a with 9” board. Could be a decent cruiser
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: mvdbosch90 on January 30, 2024, 08:03:46 AM
I’m currently in doubt about getting these or the 169s. I recently got an Anti Hero Grosso 9.25 shaped deck. I’m currently skating it with Ace AF1 66’s that I had laying around but I want to switch to Indy. The local skateshop owner skates the same deck with Indy 159’s, but I feel like 169s could provide a bit more stability at the cost of making the setup more bulky.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Skatebrain on January 30, 2024, 10:36:57 AM
If you are sure you want to stay at that deck size go with 169.   159  will work for some from 9.25-8.5 as mentioned even 8.3. 
Title: Re: Independent 159’s
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 30, 2024, 02:27:36 PM
I’m currently in doubt about getting these or the 169s. I recently got an Anti Hero Grosso 9.25 shaped deck. I’m currently skating it with Ace AF1 66’s that I had laying around but I want to switch to Indy. The local skateshop owner skates the same deck with Indy 159’s, but I feel like 169s could provide a bit more stability at the cost of making the setup more bulky.

What do you think?



Those Grosso 9.25 are 8.9 at the front axle and 8.6 at the back (if that) from setting one up a while back, so although I know others have 169s on it, the 159s just seem to fit a little better.

Ace have shorter hangers with longer axles, so check to see how much that sits out, because the Indy trucks will be on either side of that, 169s sitting out, 159s sitting in, even by only a few mm in total.

As to which is better, that is up to you - some people run trucks under the board with little wheel sight, others run them with trucks and wheels wider, even if they don't see the wheels a lot.

Wider = more stability
Not as wide = lighter (marginally) and more nimble.

The choice is yours really.


I have both and they are each good in their own way, but also depends on where you like to sit on coping or how a wider truck feels to grind / turn on as well.

People have even put 149s with super fat wheels on them and still not looked too bad, but wheel shape and size also has something to do with it as well.



* For what it is worth, I thought the last board Grosso posted had 159s before he went to Ace (but probably were 169s after all), but that doesn't mean people can't change it up and do their own thing either.  Can't find where he says it, but 159 or 169s are still ok.  His setup video from 2012 he says 169s, with the close up showing all washers on the outside to get the wheels in closer.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BupKsGzgmSx/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv9jX9egwhv/